WretchedTruman
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Get littlebigplanet. Best 4 player experience on the market.Pojo said:
in any case, you're not getting split screen for Killzone 2 -- MP, coop, or otherwise.
moving on.
KILLZONE 2 - input lag now? if you want a reskinned COD4, go play WaW
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in any case, you're not getting split screen for Killzone 2 -- MP, coop, or otherwise.
moving on.
Fenderputty
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Pojo said:
It's a "staple" as you put it because, before online competitive that's all you could do. You brought up Bond as an example, but really how else could you play with multiple people and not have split screen. The internet has changed things. While i do agree that this is a nice feature, it's really not all that necessary.
Also, haven't you guys heard of taking turns? I hated taking turns when I played Halo 2, but after loosing MP split screen for a lot of games this gen, I've learned to actually like trading turns better. Loosing a chunk of your field of view in MP sucks and is a major disadvantage.
Either way, it shouldn't be something so major as to turn you off of the game. If it is that major to you, then miss out. Whatever you do, stop with the posts about the topic.
AranhaHunter
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Tempy, will the final game have a party system?
Private Hoffman
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AranhaHunter said:
It better...
Many PS2 shooters I've played had split screen, such as Timesplitters to Goldeneye Rogue Agent and even the first Killzone.Fenderputty said:
Personally I wouldn't want online split-screen. Simple offline split-screen would've been fantastic, considering the game has bots. Yeah the view may be slightly limited, but they should do full widescreen and alter the FOV just like COD4's split screen.
OFFLINE SPLIT-SCREEN SHOULD BE A NECESSITY FOR MOST SHOOTER GAMES.
Private Hoffman
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Tempy said:
This is disappointing.
Has Guerilla Games played a modern console shooter?
Halo 2/3?
Clan support isn't anywhere near a party system.
A party system just means that a group of friends join together and go into a game.
I suppose you can use the "join friend" function, but it's just not the same as having a party leader that controls where the party is going to play.
I really wish GG's emulates Resistance 2's party system, matchmaking, and lobby system....R2 nailed it down perfectly IMHO.
Ok, I should have been more clear. I will rent the game. This does not devalue the single player experience or the online. Personally, after Resistance 2 and it's 8 hour campaign, I swore never to buy another FPS that has a multiplayer component with no splitscreen (something I didn't know was even conceivable for a FPS prior to buying R2, save for Unreal Tournament III...which eventually got split screen for the 360 anyway, despite being a "technical behemoth") because I always have friends over. I love R2 and think the SP is among the best out there, but I feel slighted that Insomniac felt offline multiplayer was not important.Liabe Brave said:
Yes, It is something I expect. But I am shocked that people completely disregard competitive multiplayer with friends in the same room, considering how popular Rock Band, Smash Brothers, and Mario Kart are at NeoGAF. You act as if it has gone away, which the Wii has clearly proven that it hasn't.
Private Hoffman
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iceatcs said:
I surely hope not. I don't like launching into a third party application just to join up in an actual game. I'm not going to load up home to go meet my friends in Killzone 2.
-viper- said:
Hm, you can see if your friends are playing online and join their game.
As for Home integration or any other way to get friends together, I really have no clue.
I've barely played any other FPS games in MP, only SP. Sure, there was the Halo3 beta, R2 demo, and a few matches in COD4, but the days of Counterstrike and Quake are gone. Good thing I'm not on the KZ2 Multiplayer Team huh?
AranhaHunter
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-viper- said:
Private Hoffman said:
That's what I meant.
kenta said:
Would be nice to know about this too, but not as important as the party system and matchmaking.
AranhaHunter
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kenta said:
Yeah but like Hoff said, I don't know if I wanna launch Home just to get a party system going.
anonymousAversa
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If KZ2 doesn't support home, it signals a major disconnect at Sony.
I mean this is one of their premiere games and has been in development for as long as Home has.
It will be a huge mistake if they aren't integrating with home.
I mean this is one of their premiere games and has been in development for as long as Home has.
It will be a huge mistake if they aren't integrating with home.
Wollan said:
Crunchtime is over and I'm basically falling asleep at work with only a handful of bugs to fix. Just being there just in case something major pops up. I think it's mostly code working a lot optimizing stuff and fixing those hard to reproduce crashes. I do remember KZ1 and KZL being a bit more hectic with last minute bug fixing.
Soon I'll be able to take long vacations and get back to... something new.
Haha, I did the same thing.FFObsessed said:Yeah in the second game I was thinking "hmm probably shouldn't have been the squad leader if I'm going to be sniping!"It wasn't too laggy for me but it was an EU server wasn't it? So I'd have been ok.
I love the little squads because it's just nice to know when your friends are dying and such, keeps you feeling connected.
Yeh but I had more kills and less deaths... and less teamkills lolololololol BOOOOOOOOOOSH!
:lol It was a good little rivalry. Every so often I'd check the score board and think "oh no you don't!" Then I started trying even harder. Good fun.
The whole more kills/less deaths thing wasnt by much :/
I was going against you more than the other team XD
European server? Was it? Not sure, but im in USA so that might have been the problem.
Private Hoffman
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HOME should not be the core backbone of PSN in terms of community features.
I don't want to launch into HOME in order to get a party together. I want the games to do that. MotorStorm 2 and Resistance 2 offer party systems and matchmaking.
Sony needs to work on the core backbone of the PSN UI and get it up to snuff before they start doing anything in HOME.
HOME seems like an inefficient waste of time to me in terms of getting a game going. Give me unified invites. Allow me to join an open party if available from the dashboard.
I don't want to launch into HOME in order to get a party together. I want the games to do that. MotorStorm 2 and Resistance 2 offer party systems and matchmaking.
Sony needs to work on the core backbone of the PSN UI and get it up to snuff before they start doing anything in HOME.
HOME seems like an inefficient waste of time to me in terms of getting a game going. Give me unified invites. Allow me to join an open party if available from the dashboard.
Killzone 2 may not have split screen (offline or online) but i assume that'd be next to impossible online since 30x2 is 60 fricken people possibly on the screen at the same time. You'd have to take an extremely large hit on graphics for that to happen. Sure lots of people want split screen, but i bet a hell of alot more people wanted gears2 to have more than 10 people online too. i think the next FPS to have so few people online on a single map is cod4 with 16?
Private Hoffman
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Tempy said:
No party system + no matchmaking = Crunchtime! Get crunching. It's almost as though this delay wasn't really worthwhile if you guys aren't really using it to optimize the UI.
Sony originally said all the features of home will be available from the XMB (ie, without needing to go into Home). So if that's still the case, and if KZ2 supports Home, you all have nothing to worry about
But like I said, we'll have to wait and see because it's been a long time and things change
But like I said, we'll have to wait and see because it's been a long time and things change
AranhaHunter
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SSJChar said:
Each person that would be playing splitscreen would count as one unique player, the game would still max out at 32 people, so at a max 16 PS3s with splitscreens running at the same time on the same game. If that's not feasible, you can restrict Split Screen to 16 player or 8 player games or what have you, I just wished for any kind of split screen, ideally online/offline with bots and co-op.
Private Hoffman
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mr_nothin said:
I'm not attacking him! I <3 Tempy and I <3 Killzone 2!
I just want it to be the best that it can be.
No party system at the very least is a very big omission that could easily be resolved from now until release. The only freaking' complaints I have for the most part are tweaks, either minor ones to the gameplay/netcode or to the UI....the latter being more important.
A modern console shooter should not release without it.
I don't have access to the beta forums because I got a code from a guy that didn't have time to play it. So he passed the code on to me. I can't log into his email account...soo....
Adding more stuff in...even if it's the smallest of things can really break the game.thuway said:
You cant really just add in stuff that may have not been planned from the beginning.
It can result in TONS of new and major bugs that would make it hard to release the game by KZ2. They seem to be in a good place where they have most of the bugs ironed out and are really optimizing the engine/game.
If it's not included by release, then bug the hell out of them on the KZ2 forums like tempy said. They'll more than likely include it in a patch or something.
AranhaHunter
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mr_nothin said:
I brought it up there, I just haven't brought up the co op, offline/online split screen because I think that's a lost cause unfortunately
Tempy I just came across a bug where I was revived by a medic but the gun I used disappeared. My pistol worked fine but when I switch back to the gun I died with, it was still gone.
When I respawned it came back to normal.
I also noticed some kind of glitch in the animation that is blending in with the ragdoll. This usually happens when things are really hectic.
When I respawned it came back to normal.
I also noticed some kind of glitch in the animation that is blending in with the ragdoll. This usually happens when things are really hectic.
Rapping Granny
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NO party or Lobby system and no Matchmaking?
UH OH SPEGATIO!!!
GET CRACKING BOYS! you still have time
A feature that should be standard in every shooter this gen can't even make it into the biggest hyped shooter in a long time?
UH OH SPEGATIO!!!
GET CRACKING BOYS! you still have time
A feature that should be standard in every shooter this gen can't even make it into the biggest hyped shooter in a long time?
Yeah, In COD4 you have aim assist which will slightly track your opponent and even help putting the aim right on the target. Basically if you are just pointing in the right direction when pressing L1 you will be spot on. Furthermore the bullets gets homing and lock on the target so you can basically snipe across the map with a pistol. Some guns really locks on when shooting like the M4 and Scorpion for example. (Heck if you get stunned and starts shooting your bullets will hit easily with this lock on thing even way off the aim...). Cheap ass firing IMO. But it is rather fun anyways.Private Hoffman said:
In KZ2 it does'nt feel like you have that at all. The only thing that seems to be helping you with firing is some slight "homing" on bullets when shooting at great distance. You often get headshots from very far with an assault rifle. Without this help it would be next to impossible to hit anything at a distance. Its harder to hit but it feels more rewarding when killing someone IMO.
Private Hoffman
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mr_nothin said:
Matchmaking probably isn't as important as a party system, imho.
KZObsessed
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I made a post about the CLAN system on the Beta forums, it stems from my experience with the Clan system from the first Beta, please back me up and keep it bumped even if you've not played a Clan game before.
Which we need to do actually, then you'll see my complaints are valid.
Which we need to do actually, then you'll see my complaints are valid.
Future PhaZe
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No matchmaking or party system? Kind of putrid...
Also, how do friends jump into ranked matches together? Wait...are there ranked matches in KZ2? I can hardly imagine people jumping in and out of ranked matches...
Also, how do friends jump into ranked matches together? Wait...are there ranked matches in KZ2? I can hardly imagine people jumping in and out of ranked matches...
KZObsessed
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Dark FaZe said:
There's a "Join Friend" option. You see a list of everyone on your friends list, whether they're online or not and where they are playing. And you can just select which friends game you want to jump into.
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