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Killzone: Shadow Fall OTl Have You seen Shadow Fall?

Perfect.

 

[Prologue]

Killzone: Shadow Fall |OT| Greatness Awaits

 

[NubCakes09]

This game looks absolutely amazing. When I pick up a PS4 this is definitely gonna be the first game I get.

 

[Faith]

Neither of which wowed us at launch as they weren't launch games.

Ok what is with Kameo or Dead or Alive 4?

 

[Portugeezer]

Killzone: Shadow Fall OTl Have You seen Shadow Fall?

 

[DirtyLarry]

Damn. Just damn. Looking good.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

Killzone: Shadow Fall OTl Have You seen Shadow Fall?

Haha.....it's on!

 

[TrojanBlade]

If only the game was made by/published my Activision, Microsoft or Bungie, then it would get a free pass on any criticisms; instant 9's.

Jeff is just really dismissive of a lot of Sony properties
Hes not a big fan of many of them at all, its understandable to a degree. I hope he remains objective and doesn't adjust the score just because its a franchise he's tired of seeing.

Exactly and this is not just related to Jeff, a lot of the press especially at the beginning of the PS3 were very critical of the games on PS3 for no good reason. Other multi-plat games or games on other platforms would get free pass on the same issues but when it would come to PS3 exclusives they were scrutinized for the smallest stupidest things. Ok so the PS3 was too expensive and a lot of folks in the press didn't like that, but games are games and should be reviewed regardless of the hardware/manufacturer complaints. I am hoping this trend does not happen going into next gen.

 

[Jburton]

Jeff is a contrarian and his 360 bias is well documented.


He has never liked a KZ game.

 

[Vire]

Jeff is a contrarian and his 360 bias is well documented.


He has never liked a KZ game.

Never liked? Really?

 

[Samyy]

Never liked? Really?

I was about to past that :lol
Do your research folks

 

[beast786]

Never liked? Really?

He didn't say loved. He said liked ;p

 

[kpaadet]

Jeff is a contrarian and his 360 bias is well documented.


He has never liked a KZ game.

Really? Than why did he give KZ2 5/5 and KZ3 4/5 ? I agree that he usually favours Xbox exclusives over Playstation's but he seems to like Killzone.

 

[viveks86]

Never liked? Really?

Boom! Seriously, people. Take the criticism for what it is. May be it's unfounded, we wouldn't know at this point. But immediately jumping to conclusions that he is biased and making shit up is not the way to process opinions.

 

[Nafai1123]

I don't think I've ever heard Jeff rave wildly about any game ever. It's part of the reason why I enjoy hearing his opinion. He likes what he likes and dislikes what he dislikes, nothing more.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

Jeff is the first i have seen to complain about the frame rate. Unless he was just disappointed that the SP wasn't 60 FPS. Like it could have been smooth but missing the fluidity of 60 FPS. Though that is something that is going to happen a lot for both systems.

 

[NullPointer]

Jeff is the first i have seen to complain about the frame rate. Unless he was just disappointed that the SP wasn't 60 FPS. Like it could have been smooth but missing the fluidity of 60 FPS. Though that is something that is going to happen a lot for both systems.

I'd expect many people to feel something similar if they jump from the multiplayer into the campaign. Going from 60fps to 30fps is already a jarring experience for me, but I've never done it with the same game. That's just going to be bizarre.

 

[Metfanant]

Killzone: Shadow Fall |OT| The Game is Over the Mustache

it must be this...it just MUST...google translate probably created a meme that can last a generation with that one...

 

[Zatoichi's Cane]

I'd expect many people to feel something similar if they jump from the multiplayer into the campaign. Going from 60fps to 30fps is already a jarring experience for me, but I've never done it with the same game. That's just going to be bizarre.

I'll probably wont even touch single player... am I crazy?

 

[Always-honest]

Thread is about grumpy old jeff now? Haha. Maybe it's just not his cup of tea.
Looks awesome to me. I'm at awe at what they achieved in art-direction, level design, stepping out of their linear box, taking new directions, techical marvel, lichting, making MP 60fps, etc. I'll be having a lot of fun at launch.

I'd expect many people to feel something similar if they jump from the multiplayer into the campaign. Going from 60fps to 30fps is already a jarring experience for me, but I've never done it with the same game. That's just going to be bizarre.

I doubt it. The SP is far more slow paced and tactical than the MP.

 

[reKon]

so all of these previews are from the final build? I'm at work so I'm not able to spend a lot of time doing any reading

 

[SolidSnakex]

so all of these previews are from the final build? I'm at work so I'm not able to spend a lot of time doing any reading

No, in the Sessler interview it was mentioned that they weren't quite finished with it yet. But it was extremely close.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

Really? Than why did he give KZ2 5/5 and KZ3 4/5 ? I agree that he usually favours Xbox exclusives over Playstation's but he seems to like Killzone.

Lol can't argue against that really

Edit: he doesn't like GOW or Uncharted which is perfectly understandable. It's his opinion

 

[googleplex]

I'd expect many people to feel something similar if they jump from the multiplayer into the campaign. Going from 60fps to 30fps is already a jarring experience for me, but I've never done it with the same game. That's just going to be bizarre.

Yeah I plan on completing the single player first before i touch muliplayer

 

[eddfromtheriver]

I have to stop watching crappy videos online, they warp my vision of what the actual game looks like... those screens are sublime.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

I have to stop watching crappy videos online, they warp my vision of what the actual game looks like... those screens are sublime.

Yeah I'm sticking with the screens too. I'll see the actual game soon enough

 

[OriginalThinking]

Lol can't argue against that really

Edit: he doesn't like GOW or Uncharted which is perfectly understandable. It's his opinion

I don't know, I'm not sure I'd trust anyone who doesn't like Uncharted

Spoiler

Kidding. Sort of.

 

[LuuKyK]

The thing that impressed me the most in this first batch of games from next gen, besides the obvious big graphical upgrade, and here especially with Killzone and Destiny, is the draw distance, it looks so good, and gives off such a huge impression of the world and its size. It really helps the immersion imo.

Edit: this bias talk is annoying.

 

[SniperHunter]

No, in the Sessler interview it was mentioned that they weren't quite finished with it yet. But it was extremely close.

They must have filmed it a while ago. The game went gold this week.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

I don't know, I'm not sure I'd trust anyone who doesn't like Uncharted

Spoiler

Kidding. Sort of.

I love Uncharted games but the mechanics are weird to me. TLOU was spot on though

 

[OriginalThinking]

I love Uncharted games but the mechanics are weird to me. TLOU was spot on though

What's weird about the mechanics? I thought Uncharted 2 set the bar for 3rd person shooter controls.

Back on topic, this is quite literally day one. Bit annoyed that I have to wait a fortnight more than America...

 

[gruenel]

I'll probably wont even touch single player... am I crazy?

After seeing some more of those SP screenshots I can safely say YES, you're crazy

 

[Sword Of Doom]

I'll probably wont even touch single player... am I crazy?

Yes!!!!

 

[Goku]

And the point of this is?

We've come a long way?

Ah, I see.

Actually my point wasn't we've come along way. It's just that that gif reminded me of Morpheus, an amazing Unreal Tournament '99 map that I played a lot. Still a positive thing guys.

Nostalgia.

^Correct sir!

 

[StreetDisciple]

How can he compare games if he wouldn't even play them. He lost credit right there. His basis should be across all platforms.

I believe he gave KZ2 a 5 out of 5. He has also been praising PS+ as of late. Who knows this gen maybe he will be more open

Beaten: a few times

 

[SykoTech]

Wow. This might be the first FPS I play in a very long time.

*Not counting games like Metroid Prime and Mirror's Edges as FPSs obviously*

 

[viveks86]

I'll probably wont even touch single player... am I crazy?

Yes!!!!

I will second this.

 

[Portugeezer]

I'd expect many people to feel something similar if they jump from the multiplayer into the campaign. Going from 60fps to 30fps is already a jarring experience for me, but I've never done it with the same game. That's just going to be bizarre.

At the beginning yeah, but from my experience it takes just a couple of minutes to get used to the different framerate.

 

[viveks86]

Actually my point wasn't we've come along way. It's just that that gif reminded me of Morpheus, an amazing Unreal Tournament '99 map that I played a lot. Still a positive thing guys.

Hey FlutterPuffs guessed it right! Nostalgia! Throw him a bone will ya?

Nostalgia.

 

[HeavenlyStriker]

never seen killzone with so much colours.

curious to see how this looks on the vita oled ~ remote play.

and the framerate difference between single player and multi is def. bs.

i hope this doesn't become a trend.

 

[isual]

I'll probably just play single player because I'm going to wait for the gamestop black friday ps plus sale

 

[Steve McQueen]

It looks amazing, but somehow the KZ universe does not appeal to me. Played 2 and 3 on PS3 and Liberation on Vita and kept thinking about it lately, why it could not hold my attention. Maybe it's important for me that I know who I' m playing. When playing HALO, I feel I'm the Chief, when playing in Pikmin I feel I'm Alph, when playing TLOU, I feel I' m Joel...when I play KZ, I don't feel like anyone tbh...does not mean it's a bad game, but I just can't identify with the characters.

 

[Jburton]

Really? Than why did he give KZ2 5/5 and KZ3 4/5 ? I agree that he usually favours Xbox exclusives over Playstation's but he seems to like Killzone.

Listening to him on Giant bombcast I would never of gotten that impression, I listen every week and he has always came across as indifferent.

My apologies, I don't read or visit GiantBomb for reviews.

 

[Goku]

Hey FlutterPuffs guessed it right! Nostalgia! Throw him a bone will ya?

I missed his post! He's absolutely right though God I love that game.

 

[HORRORSHØW]

And that's the level that the GameXplain guy said could be done on a PS3.

GameXplain, you got some 'splainin to do.

 

[AstroNut325]

We're a little more than two weeks from next-gen and we're still seeing sub 720p KZ GIFs.

 

[Pristine_Condition]

It looks amazing, but somehow the KZ universe does not appeal to me. Played 2 and 3 on PS3 and Liberation on Vita and kept thinking about it lately, why it could not hold my attention. Maybe it's important for me that I know who I' m playing. When playing HALO, I feel I'm the Chief, when playing in Pikmin I feel I'm Alph, when playing TLOU, I feel I' m Joel...when I play KZ, I don't feel like anyone tbh...does not mean it's a bad game, but I just can't identify with the characters.

According to a few of the previewers (it's been said by a few different previewers in different ways, but boiling down to the same sentiment) it sounds like they've addressed this.

Some previewers have mentioned that while they felt like they were just a generic soldier or a cog in a huge war machine in 2-3, in this game, it felt like you were much more fleshed-out character-wise and your presence and what you were doing out there was special and important. Also, you had choice in how you did things, which made the player feel much more important and autonimous.

 

[kpaadet]

Listening to him on Giant bombcast I would never of gotten that impression, I listen every week and he has always came across as indifferent.

My apologies, I don't read or visit GiantBomb for reviews.

If you listen to the Bombcast then I'm surprised you didn't catch his jadedness, he is pretty much indifferent to everything that is what makes him Jeff. You can love it or hate it, but he is usually fair in his reviews as the great KZ2 score shows

 

[SolidSnakex]

We're a little more than two weeks from next-gen and we're still seeing sub 720p KZ GIFs.

That's because they'd be gigantic. For example

That's 13mb+ and only 29 frames with basically nothing happening except a character walking forward. You'd looking at 30-40mb gifs if people start making 720p versions.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

It looks amazing, but somehow the KZ universe does not appeal to me. Played 2 and 3 on PS3 and Liberation on Vita and kept thinking about it lately, why it could not hold my attention. Maybe it's important for me that I know who I' m playing. When playing HALO, I feel I'm the Chief, when playing in Pikmin I feel I'm Alph, when playing TLOU, I feel I' m Joel...when I play KZ, I don't feel like anyone tbh...does not mean it's a bad game, but I just can't identify with the characters.

It's true. This series could use a solid protagonist.