TheCowboyPoet
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Yeah, from what I can see via Colin and Greg Live, Kevin isn't really great at his job. It just seems like more goes wrong with him there than before he was working on C&GL.... which is saying a lot.
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bananafactory
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I actually find Kevin really entertaining and would like to see more of him
Regardless of the technical problems they have I don't think it's fair to just blame Kevin without knowing everything he has to look after and manage, and the exact details (cause) of the disruptions.
Regardless of the technical problems they have I don't think it's fair to just blame Kevin without knowing everything he has to look after and manage, and the exact details (cause) of the disruptions.
TheCowboyPoet
Member
Nah, Kevin is the new Tim. DOWN WITH KEVIN!
ST2K
Member
Kevin is like garlic. It's enjoyable once in a while when used with other ingredients, but if you use too much of it, it overpowers the dish and ruins the other ingredients.
So just use dashes of garlic here and there and you're good, just don't let the garlic talk as much as the sauce and the meat.
This metaphor seems to have gotten away from me. Oh well.
So just use dashes of garlic here and there and you're good, just don't let the garlic talk as much as the sauce and the meat.
This metaphor seems to have gotten away from me. Oh well.
Just watched the NX rumor video, seems to me like Nintendo isn't going to put anything on PS4/Xbox one.
If there is any truth to that rumor, I really really hope that the portable unit of the NX is able to remote play PS4/ Xbox One...those both have remote play with windows 7, if Nintendo can do a unit with R2/L2/R3/R4 and can remote play...I'm in day 1, that would make the unit must buy for me.
If there is any truth to that rumor, I really really hope that the portable unit of the NX is able to remote play PS4/ Xbox One...those both have remote play with windows 7, if Nintendo can do a unit with R2/L2/R3/R4 and can remote play...I'm in day 1, that would make the unit must buy for me.
pasta_fire
Banned
You sure you don't mean Tim? I don't mind Kevin at all but Tim is just unbearable. Dude knows almost nothing about games and doesn't seem to know that there is a difference between 900p and 1080p.
ST2K
Member
I like Tim because he's passionate and he actually tries. He may not be the most knowledgeable, but he never pretends to be some super expert and he seems like he wants to expand his knowledge base.
I also think the stuff he does know well never actually comes up in conversation because the other guys don't know/care about his areas of expertise. Take the recent talk about Pokemon as an example. Greg stayed quiet because he doesn't feel comfortable or interested in Pokemon, Colin just brings up how it's baby's first RPG and he liked them back in the old days. Tim doesn't have too much to work with there. This week he talks about FFXV and there's no one there he can really discuss the new information with. Whenever Kingdom Hearts comes up, I'm willing to bet a similar thing will happen. It's just a no win situation for him.
bananafactory
Banned
It's fine if certain personalities don't appeal to you, but I've seen a few people in this thread lament that the KF guys don't really post in here.
Can you blame them when they are being called things like "unbearable"? I'm not saying they are immune to criticism - just think people should keep in mind that these are real people with feelings who likely do read what you say. It's possible to be constructive without being downright mean.
It's true. Obviously Tim won't have the background Colin/Greg do with covering Playstation at IGN for 8 years, but he does have his specializations. His tastes are just very different from the others so I don't think he really gets to delve into it all that often.
Can you blame them when they are being called things like "unbearable"? I'm not saying they are immune to criticism - just think people should keep in mind that these are real people with feelings who likely do read what you say. It's possible to be constructive without being downright mean.
It's true. Obviously Tim won't have the background Colin/Greg do with covering Playstation at IGN for 8 years, but he does have his specializations. His tastes are just very different from the others so I don't think he really gets to delve into it all that often.
You nailed it with this post. Tim has also admitted that he stopped being a "hardcore gamer" in the PS3/360 era IIRC (I think in the Patreon exclusive episode a month ago and at other times) outside of specific games like MGS4, Uncharted 1 and Smash. Lacking in depth knowledge about the last generation puts him at a disadvantage when it comes to discussing the latest in gaming because a lot of it revolves around last gen franchises. A lot of people probably see him having little to say about those subjects and assume he isn't knowledgeable about gaming when he actually has a lot of experience with the NES/SNES to PS2 eras.
TheCowboyPoet
Member
I don't think saying you find Tim to be unbearable is that harsh of a criticism.
What are Tim's specializations?
What are Tim's specializations?
Then he probably shouldn't be hosting a video game podcast especially with people like Colin and Greg. The Game Over Greggy show is a great fit for Nick and Tim. The Gamescast desperately needs a 3rd chair who can keep up with Colin and Greg and fill in on the genres they're not into.
bananafactory
Banned
I do agree I'd like to see this, though I think adding a fourth would be a better solution since I like Tim as a host and he's the only one of them that really cares about Nintendo stuff.
But as someone who really likes racing games, I find it really grating when they do try and discuss them, even though they admit it's not their cup of tea. The Driveclub talk on Podcast Beyond before was really ill informed in a lot of ways, as has been some of the Gran Turismo Sport discussion when that came up lately. I'm sure fans of things like fighting games and other niche genres feel the same.
It's a big flaw for him to have as a host but considering a lot of Gamescast topics are them talking about old games and topics about Nintendo (whom he stayed up to date with last gen unlike Sony and Microsoft) both of which he is highly experienced with, he's a decent host. He's also playing much more this generation so he's able to contribute a lot when they do a topic talking about a game which just came out (which is often).
EdReedFan20
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gregory-miller/cancer-survivor-strength_b_8296078.html
Edit- Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de-XvcSJYhs (Is the the first thing Greg has done with IGN since his final episode of Podcast Beyond?).
Edit- Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de-XvcSJYhs (Is the the first thing Greg has done with IGN since his final episode of Podcast Beyond?).
Here is another great post by Greg:
"You're Not Allowed to Kill Yourself"
http://www.kindafunnyforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6392
Icyflamez96
Member
I can't relate with the Tim criticisms at all. I just don't see it. He has his shortcomings in the knowledge department, but so do Colin and Greg on certain subjects. To me he comes off as a generally very well spoken personality, and I see him has nothing less than that. He often has interesting things to say.
What a kind soul Greg is. There's no way to not feel disconnected from these on-screen personalities as they'll never personally know you or your story, but with Kinda Funny the disconnect is inherently smaller. You get the feeling they do genuinely care.
Was catching up on some GOG show episodes from a while ago I may have missed, and the Snapchat discussion really ignited my already strong love for Colin Moriarty. His points about vanity and the nature of social media were so spot on, I actually wanted to jump into that discussion and agree/hug him.
EdReedFan20
Member
Don't read the YouTube comments of today's GOG segment. Tim is absolutely being ripped to shreds. Sometimes I feel so embarrassed for people when they feel the opposite of what someone else feels and in turn, call out the other person's intelligence. It's really disgusting. It's something I'm seeing more and more of. Yeah, it's the internet. Anonymity and so on and so forth, but the vehemency in the comments is becoming so intense. I feel people are too prone to becoming "sheeple". I can always sense what the "hate" trend is. For instance, over in the Star Wars threads, so many posters are hurling intense hate towards Colin Treverrow (director of Star Wars Episode IX), calling him a hack and other choice insults. Thing is, the man has only directed two movies, both of which are critically successful, and one (Jurassic World) that was also a commercial smash hit. I just wish people would chill out and if they don't like something or someone, don't have an aneurysm trying to get others to side with you. It's not worth the effort. It's not worth the energy. I think my biggest problem is that people don't like or dislike something, it's that they don't back it up with good points. It's just yelling and yelling. There's becoming less and less middle ground. When someone actually speaks with common sense, someone always jokingly points out how out of place the person is. That's sad. Rambling rant over.
bananafactory
Banned
Preach, brother.
People need to learn how to say "_______ is not for me" or "I didn't like ______" or "I disagree with _______ "instead of spinning that as "this sucks that sucks they're a moron".
I just don't read comments anymore at all, period, because it's always the same stuff. And I hope Tim doesn't either because I worry it will discourage him from doing something he loves - and I can think of few things more sad than that.
EdReedFan20
Member
The thing is, the same "hate" trends are happening here. Last week, there seemed to be a Kevin hate-a-thon which had me shaking me head (it was about Tim for a while, and at times still is). Over in the PS I Love You thread, Colin was the target for a while.
ST2K
Member
Let's not be too hasty in condemning any criticism as well. Obviously stuff like the YT comments are out of line, but sometimes the blowback against criticism is disheartening, specifically in the KF community.
Regardless, personal attacks should always be out of bounds and I think we generally keep that under control.
EdReedFan20
Member
Criticism is great. However, too often, I feel criticism (everywhere on the interet) is presented poorly (sometimes in a rude manner). Personally, one of the best ways to be critical and fair is to imagine you are bringing up your issues (as big or small as they are) to the person's face and not on an internet forum. People tend to act and speak differently when they are not anonymous.
TheCowboyPoet
Member
I'd love to see some what you think the "hate" that was geared towards Colin in the PSILY thread was, if you could share.
ST2K
Member
Agreed.
On a related note, I suspect it will be rather humorous to see how little controversy will occur with Colin's topic on socialism in comparison to this relatively minor YouTube celebrity controversy.
TheCowboyPoet
Member
EDIT: I was bitching about Tim but at this point, I don't feel like going around in circles about this anymore. If you guys find him entertaining, that's great. I found listening to him in that video very cringeworthy.
Icyflamez96
Member
Already read them. Criticism is fine, but many of those comments were loaded with vitriol filled insults and personal attacks. Sort of ironic considering the discussion near the end about the internet overreacting lol.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Just saw the Fine Bros React video.
I feel like there's a way to talk about stuff even if you're not that informed and some did that well in that round.
But lackluster research coupled with statements of authority like "that's just how it is" etc makes for a lot of cringe.
I don't want to be a jerk and maybe I'm wrong because I could always just not listen to it but yeah... that was not good. Kudos to Nick though for being the most knowledgeable though.
Also I certainly don't feel any guilt over calling them the scum bros they earned it with actions like the Ellen/Kimmel stuff, lots of frivolous copy right strikes on smaller channels(and this is documented and I feel very strongly about this that this is not ethical, you're suddenly big and now you pick on the small channels because you're scared of competition?) and tons of shady stuff. I'm happy the internet spoke out. Also you can't always say the past is in the past. Actions have consequences, they certainly didn't do anything to earn the benefit of the doubt.
Also for the PS let's play thing well it's harder to get angry at a company. After all it could have been just some suit trying to get it done who's just super disconnected from all of it.
In this case the Fine Bros have been part of the business for years(so they should have known better), they're 2 people not a faceless company. So I feel like that's part of the reason for the way stronger reaction.
I feel like there's a way to talk about stuff even if you're not that informed and some did that well in that round.
But lackluster research coupled with statements of authority like "that's just how it is" etc makes for a lot of cringe.
I don't want to be a jerk and maybe I'm wrong because I could always just not listen to it but yeah... that was not good. Kudos to Nick though for being the most knowledgeable though.
Also I certainly don't feel any guilt over calling them the scum bros they earned it with actions like the Ellen/Kimmel stuff, lots of frivolous copy right strikes on smaller channels(and this is documented and I feel very strongly about this that this is not ethical, you're suddenly big and now you pick on the small channels because you're scared of competition?) and tons of shady stuff. I'm happy the internet spoke out. Also you can't always say the past is in the past. Actions have consequences, they certainly didn't do anything to earn the benefit of the doubt.
Also for the PS let's play thing well it's harder to get angry at a company. After all it could have been just some suit trying to get it done who's just super disconnected from all of it.
In this case the Fine Bros have been part of the business for years(so they should have known better), they're 2 people not a faceless company. So I feel like that's part of the reason for the way stronger reaction.
LegendofDragoonLives
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEFp0Yn02qI
Ehh I am with Tim on this in terms of being excited for FFXV, but I'm likely even more excited. Colin's points.. eh, don't make much sense IMO. FF has always been different and changed over time, stating 1-9 are what FF is is just a factually wrong statement. That's what it is to him. Colin is sounding more and more like the gamer that only enjoys old games lol..
I think XIII is one of the most boring games I played last generation because of how stale both characters and story was, but I'm not going to say it's not FF. Just the most boring FF I have played which is almost all of them. It seems like he just wants one of the older FFs with updated graphics. :\
Ehh I am with Tim on this in terms of being excited for FFXV, but I'm likely even more excited. Colin's points.. eh, don't make much sense IMO. FF has always been different and changed over time, stating 1-9 are what FF is is just a factually wrong statement. That's what it is to him. Colin is sounding more and more like the gamer that only enjoys old games lol..
I think XIII is one of the most boring games I played last generation because of how stale both characters and story was, but I'm not going to say it's not FF. Just the most boring FF I have played which is almost all of them. It seems like he just wants one of the older FFs with updated graphics. :\
ST2K
Member
Yeah. I, too, am very excited for Final Fantasy XV, but I acknowledge that Final Fantasy has changed. I've never understood why change in spirit is necessarily a bad thing. It's still an RPG, it's still a weird fantasy tale, it's still got chocobos, espers, and mogs, and hopefully it will return to the series' trademark balance between surprisingly well-done melodrama and humorous side-stories. Sure, it might have changed from turn-based RPG to action-based RPG (for a total of... two entries now if you include XII?), but that's not too big of a change, and there's nothing preventing them from changing back in the future. Furthermore, if it's good, who cares? I never understood the criticism from RE fans about RE4 and RE5 or MGS fans criticisms of MGSV because those are good games, even if they're different from previous entries. But those are even more differentiated from their main entries than FFXV's shift from core Final Fantasy, so I digress.
Actually, now that I've written this out, I guess I can sympathize in that I get why he'd be disappointed in the disappearance of the turn-based RPG from the AAA world in general. But that's more a fear of the entire genre being relegated to a niche than Final Fantasy itself changing.
Icyflamez96
Member
Ah really? I thought the first one left something to be desired but this one was much better IMO.
bananafactory
Banned
Agreed. It's still not a slam dunk for me but its a HUGE improvement over the first.
That was great, liked it more than the first one
I liked this episode much more than the first one. Kevin is the real MVP of the series so far.
EdReedFan20
Member
Yeah. It looks weird. Their reasoning was it's supposed to be them as teens and the reason Tim is the one with facial hair is because his cartoon version was the first to reach puberty.
Icyflamez96
Member
From what I remember they said it's supposed to be a combination of themselves at multiple points in their life.
Again and again Colin's argument how advancements in technology bring basically nothing to gaming besides resolution and framerate is surprisingly ignorant. AI alone is reason enough to dispute that line of thinking entirely.
Other than that it also feels reductive to assume world design and scope or attention to detail doesn't enhance the experience to a point that it actually matters and affects gameplay. Assassin's Creed with 30 people on the marketplace or 500 sure is a huge difference.
When you boil it down to actually controlling a game (as in your input through a gaming device aka the controller) - sure, that didn't fundamentally changed, but to act like that that's all there is to it, is ridiclious.
Other than that it also feels reductive to assume world design and scope or attention to detail doesn't enhance the experience to a point that it actually matters and affects gameplay. Assassin's Creed with 30 people on the marketplace or 500 sure is a huge difference.
When you boil it down to actually controlling a game (as in your input through a gaming device aka the controller) - sure, that didn't fundamentally changed, but to act like that that's all there is to it, is ridiclious.
EdReedFan20
Member
Good GameOverGreggy Show segment today.
ShooterMcGavin
Member
Agreed. As someone who has been dealing with anxiety problems for a while now, I can absolutely understand where Colin is coming from.
EdReedFan20
Member
For the first time I had to skip a Gamescast segment. Having not played Firewatch, I was disappointed that today's segment was a spoilercast for the game. Personally, I think that should've been its own video and not part of the Gamescast, at least not so soon after the game's launch.
Colin Goes Ghost Hunting and Plays Layers of Fear (Pt. 1) - Kinda Funny Plays .
This is a really cool video and something a little different from the group.
This is a really cool video and something a little different from the group.
I really liked that! People usually complain about the high production value sponsored stuff like that but it was really cool seeing the KF squad be in that kind of deal.
Same here, that really should have been its own separate video.
uncleniccius
Member
The recent GOG segment about Colin's anxiety is fantastic. I knew he struggled, but not too that extent. I don't have it, but it was very enlightening for me.
EdReedFan20
Member
I really hope that they get Dan Ryckert on the GOG show soon. They've had him for C&GL and GC, but not GOG. Like Colin, Dan has talked a lot about his anxiety. Dan even wrote a book about his experiences: http://www.amazon.com/dp/0692401512/?tag=neogaf0e-20 I think it would be cool to have Colin and Dan both talk together about how they've dealt with anxiety. Maybe it Colin could be a guest on Danswers, Giant Bomb's life advice podcast hosted by Dan and GameSpot (and Kinda Funny supporter) Danny O'Dwyer.
EdReedFan20
Member
HAHAHAHAHA!
Funny thing is I bet that guy @notaxion (it's a real account) will be soooooooooo confused why his Twitter account is getting blown up.
Funny thing is I bet that guy @notaxion (it's a real account) will be soooooooooo confused why his Twitter account is getting blown up.