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Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue |OT| May our hearts be our guiding key
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I've been playing a lot of 0.2. Already finished proud mode and working on critical to clear up some objectives. I think it's pretty good, first of all it looks fantastic, nice to see my favorite series finally make such a graphical leap. As for gameplay, some highs and low. it's great that the command deck isn't in this and won't be in KH3, that shit is a hassle. Was very happy when Nomura first said it wouldn't be. Spell weaver works much better here because it's not automatic, one of the things that stops BBS gameplay from being great. The finisher still interrupts the flow here though but with Sora's extra abilities and combos that should straighten itself out, hopefully, need that KH2 gameplay. Other than that the magic and shotlock are great. New heartless are too.
Story stuff:
Also watched Back Cover, it was entertaining enough, they all acted kinda stupid though and
Still playing through Dream Drop Distance but watched the story some time ago. It's been alright, playing more as Sora but really don't like the command deck so playtimes aren't that long. Also don't like Dream Eaters. The drop mechanic is unnecessary and flowmotion is pretty dope but the moves are getting repetitive.
Story stuff:
-Not happy Riku and Mickey will be the ones to save Aqua, wanted it to be Sora.
-The Mark of Mastery is still bs, it's weird how they act like it's his fault.
-Sora's voice for the most part is okay but when it's get to that forced cheeriness it's awkward.
-Also glad they got Sora's look down finally, he's looking great.
-Aqua is so unlucky
-The Mark of Mastery is still bs, it's weird how they act like it's his fault.
-Sora's voice for the most part is okay but when it's get to that forced cheeriness it's awkward.
-Also glad they got Sora's look down finally, he's looking great.
-Aqua is so unlucky
Also watched Back Cover, it was entertaining enough, they all acted kinda stupid though and
about the whole master eye thing, does that mean that Riku is being watched?
Still playing through Dream Drop Distance but watched the story some time ago. It's been alright, playing more as Sora but really don't like the command deck so playtimes aren't that long. Also don't like Dream Eaters. The drop mechanic is unnecessary and flowmotion is pretty dope but the moves are getting repetitive.
The team that created and mastered that style no longer exists though, and anyone that is left most certainly are not in charge of Osaka team or what their preferred method of gameplay styles are, so expecting something like KH2 now feels out of place.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Is this what they mean by post-facts world?
I agree with this.
I trust this is intentionally designed for Aqua's playstyle. She is more ''Upright ,restrained and Regal'' in the way she fights,compared to the others.Sort of like a Fencer as opposed to Sora's more unrestrained and wild style.
The12thGripper
Member
I don't see how that "breaks the 4th wall".
DDD got really interesting towards the end so dont worry
badcrumble
Member
BBS and Re:CoM are both pretty amazing from a systems point of view, honestly, and as far as the basic gameplay loop is concerned. It's mainly that KH2FM (not so much vanilla kh2, if we're being honest) has really really excellent melee mechanics. As far as the RPG elements are concerned, Osaka's basically got Tokyo beat; it's just that KH2FM has basically gold-standard ARPG melee combat and balance and boss design.
Seven Force
Banned
Pretty much. Though it does bear mentioning that it took a couple of games for the original KH team to put out something as godlike as KHIIFM. The Osaka team's clearly showed some growth just in 0.2 alone, so writing them off entirely seems a little extreme.
Like, playing through KH1, I would have never expected the same team to later deliver something as well put together as KHIIFM (And even then, it's still not without flaws; the level design is non-existent outside of Cavern of Remembrance).
badcrumble
Member
KH2FM is really, really great in part because it's a strong mea culpa about a lot of the deep flaws in vanilla KH2 (like the level design thing). No, they didn't redesign the worlds to fix those issues or anything like that, *but* they still add a lot of stuff to go back and do, give the game an actual postgame beyond Sephiroth/Paradox Cup, bring back dodge rolling, et cetera. But it also doubles down on the things KH2 did *right* (like the improved melee and the boldly different MP system and differentiating keyblades via passive abilities).
0.2 shows a TON of potential, I think, and it's a great vertical slice for a good many of KH3's design concepts. Let's hope they keep patching and improving it, Episode Duscae style.
"Interesting"
If there having trouble understanding DDD now, the ending isn't going to help at all it only gets more nonsensical
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
One of these days I'll make a thread In DDD's honor you'll all be ashamed
Hey the Riku character development was nice and well put together. It helps that he has been written consistently as progressing, as opposed to Sora's hard regression into an idiot pre teen.
Also helps that David is able to keep a consistent voice. Poor Haley, they should just let him do something close to his Vanitas voice for Sora, which was perfect
Astral Dog
Member
J7st shut your brain off and enjoy the gameplay/ Disney worlds,KH style
RocknRola
Member
To be fair, it was the exact opposite to me
Traverse Town was a slog (even though the new areas were pretty damn cool) because I didn't really care about anyone in there lolIt got better once I reached La Cite Des Cloches.
RiderKairuu
Member
Doesn't it make more sense for it to be Kairi, given her and Aqua's interaction in BBS? I thought it was a nice touch having her tag along with Riku. I feel like Sora saving Ven is more appropriate if they go that route.
MAtgS
Member
Riku & Mickey have experience being in the RoD, Kairi has no darkness for the heartless to prey on, & Lea has the black coat that shields from darkness. Sora/Donald/Goofy are effectively the least qualified to go there.
Personally, I feel Kairi should be the one to save Aqua since she's the one Aqua ultimately passed the keyblade down to, intentional or not. It's off putting to me that 0.2 seems to regard Kairi's connection with Aqua as seemingly irrelevant compared to Sora's & Riku's.
Personally, I feel Kairi should be the one to save Aqua since she's the one Aqua ultimately passed the keyblade down to, intentional or not. It's off putting to me that 0.2 seems to regard Kairi's connection with Aqua as seemingly irrelevant compared to Sora's & Riku's.
RiderKairuu
Member
I agree with this and I'm hoping all this is just set up for Kairi to have her defining moment.
To be fair, it was the exact opposite to me
It got better once I reached La Cite Des Cloches.
I know there's something very wrong in this world when I hear people saying they don't care about the TWEWY characters.
I guess not everyone is enlightened enough to join the Church of Joshua.
I mean, I love the cast but DDD treats them mostly as filler and afterthoughts, if you haven't played TWEWY then DDD doesn't do anything to make you attached. That's the games fault
RocknRola
Member
HeartlessNobody213
Member
How is proud mode for DDD?
RocknRola
Member
So far so good (just finished Tron's- The Grid- world this afternoon). Bosses have required a couple of tries, but these early ones are all about just understanding when to guard/attack. I assume somewhere down the line things will get trickier, as per usual.
"did you mean Cult?" - Goggle, probably
Nose Master
Member
I've died a few times. Having to wait for a dream eater with second chance / bracer / once more is rough. You can just flowmotion your way through every encounter if you get stuck, though. It's lame, but sometimes you get swarmed by trash mobs and it's there.
Not playing TWEWY should be a crime against humanity but I digress. Anyways, they play their specific role in this game which is all they were getting. They were never going to take center stage and completely hijack the plot like some people wanted. Either way, there was no way they were going to do them complete justice in a limited number of cutscenes considering how much they changed and developed throughout TWEWY.
Right, which is my point TWEWY is a niche game most people aren't going to know them going in. The game doesn't do them justice and thus people don't care about them, that's not the players fault its DDD's.
RocknRola
Member
Although I have to say, the whole "Drop" thing is kind of in the way sometimes. In La Cite Des Cloches I found myself being dropped into Riku & Sora, for no reason other than "You took too long exploring bro, sorry."
Yes there are items you can use and you can quickly Drop manually to one of them and back again and keep going, but it's a bit annoying. Feel like that kinda cuts the flow of play a bit. Dunno, maybe it made sense on a handheld space where people would play shorter sessions in general.
Yes there are items you can use and you can quickly Drop manually to one of them and back again and keep going, but it's a bit annoying. Feel like that kinda cuts the flow of play a bit. Dunno, maybe it made sense on a handheld space where people would play shorter sessions in general.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Not many people probably know what they'll the hunchback of Notre Dame is either
RocknRola
Member
I'd argue a lot more do though. This version used is the Disney one, which by default reaches/has reached a whole wider audience than TWEWY probably ever reached. Even if arguably the movie is one of their least popular ones from that era.
Let's be fair, the main point what's all about fanservice for fans and not driving interest in a niche game. Just seeing the TWEWY cast in 3D and fully voiced was enough to make me and other people happy.
Play TWEWY if you haven't people!
MiloFoxburr
Member
1.5 + 2.5 is out in March on the PS4, at the least you need to play Birth By Sleep from the 2.5 collection before playing 0.2 and KH3
Birth by Sleep is a must when 1.5+2.5 comes out. You should be set with that and this collection.
You can also watch the 358/2 Days movie in Youtube right now if you want a quick KH fix. It's going to be important for KH3 as well.
That's actually a good counterpoint/example when we're talking about TWEWY.
Outside of several very specific cases, the Disney tie-ins are just about as abridged in their presentations vs the source material as TWEWY is vs its source material, environment aside (Shibuya doesn't quite look like Traverse Town)
Heck, I'd go so far as to say some plot arcs from the features get truncated to the point the characters look like idiots as far as motivation/etc. go. But that's just the nature of the format - a lot of it is there as fanservice rather than serving some greater narrative.
edit: For obvious reasons, this affects the handheld games (even BBS) more than 1 and 2.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
It's all supposed to be just fanservice so that's a weird nitpick to try and throw at DDD. Same goes for the people clamoring for alantis, treasure planet and stuff like that.
I expect 3 to be all about the big dogs just like 1&2 were.
Edit:not you Falk sama
jakeProtagonist
Banned
Yeah, it's always been one of the biggest complaints about KH2, everything disney felt truncated and pointless filler. One of the things most people agree that 1 handled them way better.
I mean, I am not that bad in rythm games, but...
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Also: I am still not sure what to think about the dropfeature. Dont see any value in it.
one of those rythm challenges in the symphony worlds is driving me nuts. Feels like the game doesnt even recognize it sometimes when I press a button)
Also: I am still not sure what to think about the dropfeature. Dont see any value in it.
I wanna get into the series but.. I don't know if I can looking at that abomination. Why did they do this? I don't get it.
I think my enjoyment of the worlds also has some correlation to how much it travels off the beaten path, or how the story/characters change with the presence/involvement of SDG/TAV. For example, playing through Notre Dame where you pretty much can figure what's going to happen, vs Beast traveling to Hollow Bastion to save Belle.
Or, in other words, how much the plot/world is integrated into the larger narrative rather than just retelling a story people already know.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Remember the green line you need to hold the button
So that leaves the burning question..Kh1 agrabah or kg2.. Tread lightly falk
The Last One
Member
IS this 2.9 The First Volume the 0.2's epilogue?
Edit: Nevermind, it's in the image.
Just 1.5+2.5 then 2.8. Easy to follow.
And you really think I did not know that? (I did not know that... Thank you.)
Just 1 and 2
It's up to you if you want to play 0.2, BBS and DDD or just watch a summery on youtube(they are very fun to play though)
Then wait for 3