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Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue |OT| May our hearts be our guiding key
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Jimnymebob
Member
Does this game have the Dream Eaters the you got from the preorder cards and the bonus pack from either Club Nintendo or the Square Enix Store (I can't remember which)?
I can't even remember who my main ones were now. I did like then though, and they were probably my second favourite enemy type in the series. I didn't like whatever the things from BBS were called, Unversed or something, and I only liked the default Nobody design.
I can't even remember who my main ones were now. I did like then though, and they were probably my second favourite enemy type in the series. I didn't like whatever the things from BBS were called, Unversed or something, and I only liked the default Nobody design.
Chaserjoey
Member
Yeah the AR card Dream Eaters are in the game.
They were in the original as well, the AR cards just let you get them early.
Jimnymebob
Member
Oh, cool, and I can't remember if I knew that or had just forgotten.
badcrumble
Member
Nomura confirmed that Dream Eaters are in KH3 too and that there will be special features related to them.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
...I like DDD I don't want this. You got a link? I believe you but I just wanna read the disappointment myself
From the latest Famitsu interview, translated at KHInsider, can not provide links since they have scans in their article.
Dream Eaters tie into the backstory of KHUX, so they'll probably appear (and a couple might be enemies) but there's no reason to think they'll be anything like DDD.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
O god Nomura plz. No ties to abilities, don't make me have to pet or feed them and we good.
"feature" hopefully collectibles or something meaningless.
Petting shit is thing in many 3DS games and that's why they did that with DDD. I seriously doubt they will force that shit in KH3.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Napalm_Frank
Member
Oh god just got to the gypsy scene, it's even worse than I remembered. Everything about the scene is totally off.
Napalm_Frank
Member
I know I give DDD a bit too much shit but man, Quasimodo comes off a little too creepy. ''You can stay here FOREVER''
I would really love them to go this route. But since it sounds like such a good idea, it will not happen ;(
True to the source material!
McMoneyman
Member
So DDD, if I want to platinum it what difficulty setting should I play on?
I don't think the Dream Eaters are all THAT bad unless you're going for 100%ing everything, then it can be a bit of a grind though I don't think it's any worse than obsessively leveling up commands in BBS and is probably actually even faster & more effortless than BBS (especially since they are all shared between Sora & Riku). I'm in the final stretches of the game and the time I've spent with the bonding stuff & mini-games is probably 1/20th of the time spent in menus constantly switching fully leveled commands to ones I still need to level up and then melding them once the necessary commands are fully leveled in BBS (and doing it all 3 times throughout each character's playthrough)
The game throws so much enemies at the player that you get tons of LP by just fighting, so even if you hate the mini-games & bonding stuff, you can get LP at a pace that is probably comparable to leveling up commands in BBS, if not even faster. Then of course you can just spend money after all the fighting and just buy shit to feed to the Dream Eaters and get quite a lot of LP quickly that way. There's so many ways of getting LP that you can kind of switch between them all to avoid the tedium of any particular method. The mini-games are another way to get quick LP. I find them to be OK, mindless time-wasters when I want a break from the combat of the game. Though the water barrel mini-game in this HD version is a lot worse than the original on 3DS.
One thing that makes it even less painful is to check up what abilities different dream eaters can give you and just first focus on getting the more important & useful permanent ones and then quickly moving on to other Dream Eaters, if available. Trying to 100% a Dream Eater can be tedious since there are so many of those boost abilities that simply don't matter after you switch to the next Dream Eater so they really shouldn't be much of a focus.
I also don't mind that a lot of abilities being tied to the Spirits. The most important ones are one-off unlocks (combo plus, second chance and all the special attacks/spells) and the ones that aren't just add a bit of a strategic element to using different Dream Eaters.
I guess one way they could've made it better would have been to have some of the late(r)-game Dream Eaters already come with some Haste, Screen & HP/Atk/Def Boost abilities unlocked so it doesn't feel like you go from having useful abilities to zero each time you switch to a new Dream Eater.
+ I like the Link attacks. I think they are a fun addition to the combat & bring more variety to encounters.
The game throws so much enemies at the player that you get tons of LP by just fighting, so even if you hate the mini-games & bonding stuff, you can get LP at a pace that is probably comparable to leveling up commands in BBS, if not even faster. Then of course you can just spend money after all the fighting and just buy shit to feed to the Dream Eaters and get quite a lot of LP quickly that way. There's so many ways of getting LP that you can kind of switch between them all to avoid the tedium of any particular method. The mini-games are another way to get quick LP. I find them to be OK, mindless time-wasters when I want a break from the combat of the game. Though the water barrel mini-game in this HD version is a lot worse than the original on 3DS.
One thing that makes it even less painful is to check up what abilities different dream eaters can give you and just first focus on getting the more important & useful permanent ones and then quickly moving on to other Dream Eaters, if available. Trying to 100% a Dream Eater can be tedious since there are so many of those boost abilities that simply don't matter after you switch to the next Dream Eater so they really shouldn't be much of a focus.
I also don't mind that a lot of abilities being tied to the Spirits. The most important ones are one-off unlocks (combo plus, second chance and all the special attacks/spells) and the ones that aren't just add a bit of a strategic element to using different Dream Eaters.
I guess one way they could've made it better would have been to have some of the late(r)-game Dream Eaters already come with some Haste, Screen & HP/Atk/Def Boost abilities unlocked so it doesn't feel like you go from having useful abilities to zero each time you switch to a new Dream Eater.
+ I like the Link attacks. I think they are a fun addition to the combat & bring more variety to encounters.
You need to play on Proud mode or Critical mode for the abilitys equiped trophy because Zero Exp's exclusive to those modes and the trophy wont unlock without it.
Criticals unlocked by beating Proud Mode though, so Proud Mode would be the best one to go for platinum. (and you can do everything you need to on it for the platinum trophy without having to start a NG+)
badcrumble
Member
this is a damn lie from the mouth of satan himself
McMoneyman
Member
Thank you!
I mean, I haven't ever 100%ed DDD so maybe I'm not fully aware of The Struggle, but during my current playthrough I don't feel like I've had to do all too much grinding for LP. I've just played through the game thoroughly exploring the world and doing some backtracking but not obsessively grinding, and I feel like I'm advancing through the link boards at a decent enough pace to have an enjoyable sense of progress.
That said, I do only have, like, 6 or 7 Dream Eaters with all (current) nodes unlocked by the time I got to the Fantasia world so maybe that's not all that much in the grand scheme of things, lol.
It gets converted to Munny. You can't save it between drops.
WrenchNinja
Member
Surprised they didn't add Chririthy as a bonus dream eater for the hd version of 3D.
Auron_Kale
Member
Ordered my LE copy off Amazon on Saturday and it just arrived today.
Noticed that the shrinkwrap is kinda loose, though my box is slightly bowing on one side but everything is intact.
Will start soon.
Noticed that the shrinkwrap is kinda loose, though my box is slightly bowing on one side but everything is intact.
Will start soon.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
I mean..It was 7 years ago to be fair
2FM is like 10 years old though?
papertoonz
Member
2FM will be 10 years old this march
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Nd the last console one to boot. If kh3 isn't up to snuff with it after 11 years there's a problem
Well 2FM set high bar with the combat and I honestly doubt KH3 will reach that nevermind surpass it. Would be nice to be close to it.
To be fair I feel most of JRPGs aren't up to snuff with PS2 era ones anyway.
Napalm_Frank
Member
BBS being 7 years old makes me feel ancient.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
As i typed that out I had to pause like 7 years? Sheesh
looks great. It will be awesome if we get new footage for both KH3 and FF7R in E3.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
You know what's interesting...You think soras main key will get switched after he leaves Olympus? Could be nothing but they've been rocking with that keyblade for a good while
Progress in gameplay systems isnt always a given,unfortunately.
Often times future games do regress.Luckily thats not the case with KH3.
Stalactite
Member
Finished 0.2 on Normal. Normal 'cause I'm older than the average KH player and my reaction time has started to suck in recent years. Sort of want to try and get the rest of the trophies but I'm terrible at the 'don't get hit' type of objectives the game has.
That said, aside from some bullshit from certain Heartless, I'm impressed. Aqua was a only little too floaty and that HUD needs to be bigger, but overall it only made the wait for 3 worse, heh.
Oh blergh, really? I guess I could start over, only really halfway through the second world at the moment...
That said, aside from some bullshit from certain Heartless, I'm impressed. Aqua was a only little too floaty and that HUD needs to be bigger, but overall it only made the wait for 3 worse, heh.
Oh blergh, really? I guess I could start over, only really halfway through the second world at the moment...
I'm actually really enjoying Dream Drop Distance so far and not having much issues but I'm really overwhelmed by this combat system. There's just so much going on with the Dream Eaters and syncing with them and the command deck that I've never liked. Hope Kingdom Hearts III goes back to the effortless simplicity of II but I doubt it, considering the team working on it.
I have a habit of skipping most cutscenes because while I enjoy the overarching plot of the series, I have no tolerance for terrible retellings of direct-to-VHS Disney films. Am I correct in remembering that nothing much plot-relevant happens outside of Traverse Town and TWTNW?