whiterabbit
Member
I tried Archer, Hammer, and ESP and only got to Dedede Clones with ESP. Don't think I'm going to be able to do this! Especially without any amiibo which are able to heal you.
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Kirby: Planet Robobot |OT| A Transformative Mechstravaganza
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Professor Beef
Banned
There was a point where I traded hits with the boss before Sectonia, and he died but my power got knocked out of me, so I lost it during the cutscene. OOH I WAS MAD.
I'm talking True Arena though. DDD2.0 is fucking ridiculous.
The Awesomest
Member
So after hitting the fight with Sally, I was eager to keep playing because I want to see how the... story, um, played out. In a Kirby game. What's wrong with me?
On my third attempt on the true arena during the fight against
dark matter
Yeah, but isn't it the same boss fight as in Meta Knight Returns? Or does Kirby's poor mobility make it more difficult?
whiterabbit
Member
They have big hammers and they jump around. It's hard to avoid. That's what makes them hard IMO. The second form isn't too bad.
Professor Beef
Banned
I managed to beat Sectonia powerless, but I had to grab a random ability for the fight afterwards and it ended up being Jet. I probably should've quit right there tbh
The first form is way more brutal. They switch up their attack timings and also attack more often. They also do the jump attack way more, and it homes in on you, which is hell when each DDD is using different attack timings.
ZiggyPalffyLA
Member
Archer camouflage allows you to be patient and learn the boss attack patterns and avoid pretty much every move. If you take your time, you can get a few fully charged hits in every time there's an opening. Dedede clones are the hardest with Archer because they will corner you, so you have to fight them legitimately.
whiterabbit
Member
Yeah, I know. That's how I did it in Triple Deluxe, but it takes a lot of patience. Holo Coily Rattler is a nuisance.
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Abilityless run actually isn't so hard in the True Arena, I was able to reach
on my first attempt before dying. The major walls you have to deal with are the Dedede clones and the battles against the swordsmen bosses.
In any case, I think ESP and Hammer are the two best abilities for True Arena. Has anyone cleared it with Doctor yet?
Galacta Knight
In any case, I think ESP and Hammer are the two best abilities for True Arena. Has anyone cleared it with Doctor yet?
whiterabbit
Member
Well, I made it all the way to
with Archer.
whittled down my health too much. Will try again later.
Sectonia Clone
Dedede and Pres. Haltmann
whiterabbit
Member
Which ability were you using?
BTW it almost seems like they expect you to use some amiibo to heal in the True Arena.
whiterabbit
Member
It's powerful. If you could direct the PSI balls a bit faster it would be OP. I'm just not good enough at dodging with it. I think I'll have to stick to Archer, even if it takes longer.
Yeah, that's why those two bosses I mentioned are the most difficult with it. The arena you fight them in and their constant jumping around makes the fight more difficult with PSI than any other boss.
whiterabbit
Member
If I beat the True Arena, I doubt I'll come back to it. I want to get 100%, but if I want to mess around with boss fights and abilities, I would play the regular Arena.
whiterabbit
Member
I just beat it! Archer did the trick. Time was around 43 minutes and now have 100% completion.
For
I just used the dodge whenever I sensed danger.
For
Star Dream
Finished up the story tonight. Had a lot of fun. Like Triple Deluxe is does a good job of using the different layers (foreground/background). I loved the mech and being able to copy abilities with it. Just so cool. And the robot theme was really well done, especially some of the old takes on new bosses. Otherwise, typical Kirby. Really dependable fun game. Will dig into the other modes this weekend probably.
I've been playing this a ton lately, still have The True Arena to get through as well as the final boss in the Team Kirby Clash minigame until I reach 100% completion. The True Arena is pretty hard, I got up to the D
/S
fight on my second try (I died embarrassingly early on on my first try...). I used the ESP ability, seems like the go-to ability as it offers a few ways to easily dodge otherwise hard-to-avoid projectiles and attacks and it does quite a lot of damage too. I have to say, some of the golden stickers in this game are hidden really well, I had so much trouble with finding the last few that I had to look up a 100% walkthrough to find out where they were. The hidden room in the final extra stage was a really fun surprise. Really loving this game, makes me want to replay all the other Kirby games.
ark Matter Clone
ectonia Clone
Dark Matter and Sectoria aren't that bad, they just require patience and the dodge move.
Galacta Knight on the otherhand is incredibly hard to do abilityless. (And fun.)
Wait you can do this? Hmm, I may have a fighting chance now!
It mars your completion time on the final results with an amiibo emblem, but using any amiibo will heal Kirby slightly (and using a Kirby amiibo will heal Kirby completely).
Professor Beef
Banned
I'm so fucking mad, omg
That final explosion at the end of True Arena killed me.
That final explosion at the end of True Arena killed me.
Haha scrub!
I died there as well yesterday when I thought Archer's hide could protect me ;_;
I swear they did that just to screw with people abusing Camo and rock.
MrSaturn99
Member
WHAT THE LIVING FUCK TRUE ARENA
THAT WAS THE CHEPAEST ASSPULL EVER IT WAS ALREADY THE HARDEST ONE EVER AND THEN THE FINAL STAR DREAM PHASE PULLS THAT DEATHWAVE AFTER I BEAT ITWHY GOD WHY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHGUHIEWHNBGEPNUIIUGWIEUIEGWIBUEGIUBEWGIGE
Orniletter
Banned
Just wrapped it up.
Huh. It was pretty good, but the bosses were far too easy compared to Triple Deluxe.
PR in general was far easier than the already quite easy 3D.
I liked 3D more.
I love the 3D Kirby minigame. They absolutely have to make an entire game around this concept.
Huh. It was pretty good, but the bosses were far too easy compared to Triple Deluxe.
PR in general was far easier than the already quite easy 3D.
I liked 3D more.
I love the 3D Kirby minigame. They absolutely have to make an entire game around this concept.
Man,
is so tough to beat as vanilla Kirby. Nothing like when you face him as Meta Knight or Archer Kirby.
Including the true arena?
Galacta Knight
Including the true arena?
zelhawks37
Member
Ugh I can get past everything in True arena except the last boss.
So difficult, but I shall keep trying!
Either the first or second phase does me in most of the time. I only got to the third phase once and couldn't beat him in time before he did that unavoidable attack.
The Awesomest
Member
I just beat this. WTF was that last boss supposed to be.
Manged to beat him on my second try. Pretty intense fight. The fear of redoing everything kept me going.
How's that Kirby plot thread going? Also, you promised me an avatar!
How's that Kirby plot thread going? Also, you promised me an avatar!
Welp, I've done pretty much everything except the True Arena.
Usually,
is my wall, or I'll beat him, losing a fair bit of health in the process.
I also replayed Superstar Ultra and I have to say the two 3DS games are so much better than it, as good as it is. What really escalates these games over that one is the fact that the environments and level set pieces are interesting to look at and figure out, and the bosses have varied attack patterns. Even the minibosses are lively and fun. In SSU, King Dedede just stands there doing nothing, expecting you to be pummelling him with an ability. in this game, the first boss has 3 phases that are all really involving, with projectiles you can deflect and the arena constantly changing shape. Maybe it's because I've played Superstar and Ultra to death, but I did kind of find it hard to go back to after playing Triple Deluxe and Robobot.
Revenge of Meta Knight is still great, though. Despite the writing doing everything in its power to make you feel terrible for Meta Knight's crew. It feels like the Undertale Genocide route when Meta Knight leaves his crew to die at Kirby's hands with a solemn "I'm sorry..." Even worse when you fight Waddle Dee in Revenge of the King.
On this tangent, in old Kirby games, I couldn't tell you what happens in an individual level because they all kind of blend into one. Whereas in this one, I can talk about the one with the cars and traffic lights, the casino with the dice and balls rolling around, or the train levels with the spinning bullet bill things.
TL;DR: Kirby seriously benefitted from the shift to 3D graphics and the environments are far more involving now, making the new ones way more interesting than the old ones
Ending it with a 4 phase boss fight that you can't fight elsewhere is really something.
Galacta Knight
I also replayed Superstar Ultra and I have to say the two 3DS games are so much better than it, as good as it is. What really escalates these games over that one is the fact that the environments and level set pieces are interesting to look at and figure out, and the bosses have varied attack patterns. Even the minibosses are lively and fun. In SSU, King Dedede just stands there doing nothing, expecting you to be pummelling him with an ability. in this game, the first boss has 3 phases that are all really involving, with projectiles you can deflect and the arena constantly changing shape. Maybe it's because I've played Superstar and Ultra to death, but I did kind of find it hard to go back to after playing Triple Deluxe and Robobot.
Revenge of Meta Knight is still great, though. Despite the writing doing everything in its power to make you feel terrible for Meta Knight's crew. It feels like the Undertale Genocide route when Meta Knight leaves his crew to die at Kirby's hands with a solemn "I'm sorry..." Even worse when you fight Waddle Dee in Revenge of the King.
On this tangent, in old Kirby games, I couldn't tell you what happens in an individual level because they all kind of blend into one. Whereas in this one, I can talk about the one with the cars and traffic lights, the casino with the dice and balls rolling around, or the train levels with the spinning bullet bill things.
TL;DR: Kirby seriously benefitted from the shift to 3D graphics and the environments are far more involving now, making the new ones way more interesting than the old ones
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Just started this over the weekend, not sure how far through I am. It's my first uh, traditional(?) Kirby game, but this is really fun. I'm glad I didn't sleep on this, it's one of the better things I've played so far this year.
Slowly, and I'm working on it! Life and work just got in the way
Somethings are more important! I need my lore fix.
Do you know what's not okay?
Also, Hal struck gold when they
Oh, one other point for the Deep Lore(tm) aspect.
If so, dark.
post-defeat instakill attacks at the end of a 5 phase boss fight that you can only fight at the end of a boss rush. Also apparently archer doesn't block it but since I'm not cheap, I wouldn't know
Also, Hal struck gold when they
made the Marx fight. Every Kirby end boss has channeled him ever since.
Oh, one other point for the Deep Lore(tm) aspect.
Does the text on the pause screen change to "all traces of Haltmann have been deleted" after you hear him scream during the fight with the heart?
LambdaTeos
Member
I am a victim of
Right now i'm at 98%, need to get all the rare keychains, finished all other modes
do you think those mini games will be released in the eshop as the previous ones from triple deluxe?
the last boss too, that damn last attack got me, I tired to float but I floated too high and died, the good thing is that there are only 4 sets of waves
Right now i'm at 98%, need to get all the rare keychains, finished all other modes
do you think those mini games will be released in the eshop as the previous ones from triple deluxe?
I've had this game sitting around for a few weeks now and finally decided to start playing it tonight.
It's pretty fun so far. The gameplay is pretty standard Kirby, but I like the new powers (Dr. Kirby!) and the mech is fun.
But why oh why did they map jump and attack to A and B instead of B and Y? How can you make a 2D platformer in 2016 and think that's acceptable? I've only just realized that I haven't really played any of the previous DS/3DS Kirby games, so I don't know if they've been doing it wrong this whole time, but I know for sure that they did it correctly back on the SNES with Superstar and Dream Land 3, and I don't understand what could have possibly made them decide to change it and have no option to change it back to the correct way.
It's still a fun game, but this very basic thing that major game developers shouldn't be getting wrong in 2016 is seriously impeding my enjoyment.
It's pretty fun so far. The gameplay is pretty standard Kirby, but I like the new powers (Dr. Kirby!) and the mech is fun.
But why oh why did they map jump and attack to A and B instead of B and Y? How can you make a 2D platformer in 2016 and think that's acceptable? I've only just realized that I haven't really played any of the previous DS/3DS Kirby games, so I don't know if they've been doing it wrong this whole time, but I know for sure that they did it correctly back on the SNES with Superstar and Dream Land 3, and I don't understand what could have possibly made them decide to change it and have no option to change it back to the correct way.
It's still a fun game, but this very basic thing that major game developers shouldn't be getting wrong in 2016 is seriously impeding my enjoyment.
Freezie KO
Banned
Been playing this during a short vacation, and I just beat the
. I love the way the technology/robot theme gives new life to old Kirby tropes.
After Return to Dreamland and Triple Deluxe, we're in a golden age for classic Kirby. The games have been fantastic, and they've truly realized how to balance the gameplay with Kirby's near-omnipotence. I've had a soft spot for the series since the original Gameboy entry, and I'm glad it's doing so well now.
DDD clone(s)
After Return to Dreamland and Triple Deluxe, we're in a golden age for classic Kirby. The games have been fantastic, and they've truly realized how to balance the gameplay with Kirby's near-omnipotence. I've had a soft spot for the series since the original Gameboy entry, and I'm glad it's doing so well now.
While I adapt to it just fine, I can't disagree with him. All the Kirby games on SNES uses the Y/B layout but for some reason the DS games, including the remake of Kirby Super Star, using A/B instead. To my hands it feels more natural as Y/B, though like I said it's never stopped me from playing them.
It's bizarre that it's not an option, when it used to be the standard.
Magnet_Man
Member
It's been nearly 20 years since Dreamland 3 came out while there have been at least 10 mainline Kirby games across the handhelds and Wii / U with this button set up.
Of the 16 or so main Kirby games that have come out, only three use the "Y / B" or similar positional set ups: Super Star, Dreamland 3, and 64.
I can get being disoriented from being away from the series for so long, but the SNES controls are not the standard for Kirby and they haven't been for nearly two decades. It's silly to try to claim they are.