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KKK to hold Confederate Flag Rally at South Carolina State House

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I didn't realize that the Klan also considered themselves a Christian group? I'm an atheist, but do they think Jesus was a white guy living in the Middle East or am I missing something?
 
Can you imagine the scenes if regular racist confederate flag fans turn up to oppose the KKK rally due to their support/presence being a surefire way of getting it torn down.


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FStubbs

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It absolutley is. It makes it much harder for those who say "this isn't about racism" to continue to make that claim.

They'll just say "Not all Muslims are terrorists so therefore not all supporters of the Confederate flag are racist"
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Yes.



This sort of demonstration falls under the rights of petition and assembly as well as, arguably, freedom of speech. The American Civil Liberties Union has defended protests by hate groups like the KKK in the past on these grounds.
Would be awesome if the ACLU defended the KKK with a black lawyer.

I didn't realize that the Klan also considered themselves a Christian group? I'm an atheist, but do they think Jesus was a white guy living in the Middle East or am I missing something?
Yea, look up southern Baptists & the KKK.
 

JustenP88

I earned 100 Gamerscore™ for collecting 300 widgets and thereby created Trump's America
It says a lot about the heritage/culture (or lack thereof) of people that the only symbol they can drag up from their past is a flag flown by an army fighting to preserve slavery. You've got nothing else you can turn towards to celebrate your heritage?
 
Now that the cartoon super-racists have come out in support of the confederate flag, can we expect any "moderates" to stop claiming it's not racist? I mean who wants to be on the same side as the KKK?
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
How the fuck can a group like KKK be legal? What's your problem US?

First amendment bro. As long as they aren't doing anything illegal, they are legally allowed to assemble.

Just like anyone can have the confederate flag on their car or their house as well.
 

Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
How the fuck can a group like KKK be legal? What's your problem US?

There is nothing wrong with it being legal. They are free to express their ignorant views and we are free to ridicule them.
 

Koomaster

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“If you can’t tell they are trying to wipe us out of the history book,”
Hahaha, never. The KKK and the confederate flag are good lessons to future generations about how fucked up racism becomes. So no need to worry about being erased.

Also before all this started I had no idea that confederate flags were still being flown over gov't buildings. I live in a mostly southern town but the most I've seen of a confederate flag here has been a bumper sticker. If I saw any confederate flags being flown by the gov't in my city it would make me sick to my stomach. I can see why people want this shit torn down. Couldn't imagine living with seeing that every day where you live; being flown by a gov't that's meant to support you.

This shouldn't even be a question over whether it's still appropriate to fly that racist symbol. It's fucked up that I even have to say it; but I hope this KKK rally opens some people's eyes to the truth of what this flag represents.
 

ghostjoke

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The KKK are trying to support the confederate flag's continued existence by holding a rally, calling its removal "cultural genocide". Where to even begin with this?

And don't worry KKK, you'll never be removed from history. We need examples like you to remind us what we are capable of and what we have overcome to better ourselves.
 
The KKK are trying to support the confederate flag's continued existence by holding a rally, calling its removal "cultural genocide". Where to even begin with this?

And don't worry KKK, you'll never be removed from history. We need examples like you to remind us what we are capable of and what we have overcome to better ourselves.

The "they expect 200 people to attend" got me

And hell even that number seems high for this level of psychosis
 

ghostjoke

Banned
The "they expect 200 people to attend" got me

And hell even that number seems high for this level of psychosis

Here's hoping that is just hope and ends just being a few people awkwardly shuffling around as they realise the mistake they've made; but there are (sadly) likely more of these pieces of human garbage hiding away, waiting for something to come along in hopes of rallying some support to forward their own twisted agenda.
 
At first I was against this, but this rally might not be such a bad idea. Imagine how many people (or ar least politicians) will be left supporting the flag when they realize they're on the same side as the KKK.

In all seriousness, though, here we go again with the hypocrisy. "Stop the metaphorical genocide against us so we can commit real genocide someday."

Why isn't the government stopping THIS terrorist organization in its own backyard?
 
Here's hoping that is just hope and ends just being a few people awkwardly shuffling around as they realise the mistake they've made; but there are (sadly) likely more of these pieces of human garbage hiding away, waiting for something to come along in hopes of rallying some support to forward their own twisted agenda.

At first I was against this, but this rally might not be such a bad idea. Imagine how many people (or ar least politicians) will be left supporting the flag when they realize they're on the same side as the KKK.

In all seriousness, though, here we go again with the hypocrisy. "Stop the metaphorical genocide against us so we can commit real genocide someday."

Why isn't the government stopping THIS terrorist organization in its own backyard?

I don't think you guys appreciate just how sympathetic some of America is to the KKK. Yes, including some of our politicians. That flag is where it is now because a good chunk of the state actively agreed with their stance on segregation when our parents were in grade school, and still passively agree with it now.
 

Dabanton

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It's an ingenious trap the KKK have set for themselves, whatever the decision.

No protest from them and politicians will pull the flag. Do protest and the last legs of the 'heritage' argument begin to look even more dodgy.
 
Now that the cartoon super-racists have come out in support of the confederate flag, can we expect any "moderates" to stop claiming it's not racist? I mean who wants to be on the same side as the KKK?

People will justify it so that, even though they don't side with the KKK, they still "side with what they are for". The kinds of mental gymnastics people will do in order to remain "right" will astound you.
 
Does anyone remember watching this amazing, terrifying ,and sad documentary on HBO in the nineties? Skinheads USA: Soldiers of the Race War

If you ever get a chance to watch it somehow, I suggest you do, but be prepared to be immensely pissed off. It's all about this Bill Riccio guy. He was mad insane. And like Hitler he somehow got people to follow him. Mostly disenfranchised youths. The one scene that still always sticks with me to this day is when he is talking to some kid probably around 8, and how the kid mentions how Hitler is "kept in his heart." ugh...
 

Mimosa97

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Jewish people are definitely considered white, by like everyone. Except white supremacy groups I guess.

Ever heard of the falashas ? Jewish people come in all color/ethnicity. I think you're referring to ashkenazi jews.

And the KKK don't hate jews because they don't consider them white. They hate jews because they are hateful nutjobs who believe in a multitude of conspiracy theories, all of them involving jews as the masterminds behind the most evil plans. Open any youtube video remotely linked to race/religion/immigration etc... And you'll find comments about how jews are the ones who are responsible for " multiculturalism " and " non-white immigration " leading to the white-genocide we're " witnessing " right now. They're basically the spiritual successors of the nazis.
 

Peltz

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many jews do not see themselves as white

Well... many Jewish people aren't white.

As a Jewish person, I personally see Judaism as both a religion and an ethnicity. But I don't really know if there are people who categorically state that "all Jewish people are not white."

I'd be interested to know how someone could ever hold such a belief.
 

Africanus

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I once tried to join the KKK as a sociology project.

Like, it was actually a project for sociology class. Wrote an essay about it and everything. They ended up letting me in and I lost my nerve and rushed out quickly.

I did a similar project for an English class with a friend. Except by phone. I attempted to join and the first question was "What is your national and ethnic heritage/Are you of the white race?" and when I stated no they hung up.
 
How the fuck can a group like KKK be legal? What's your problem US?

We have freedom of speech protections, there's nothing wrong with that.

Only speech that actively promote violence is limited in these cases which the vast majority of current klans groups do not publicly advocate or participate in.

The current klan groups are a joke and shadows of their former 1870s and civil rights era incarnations.

You'd find more dangerous racist individuals on stormfront and right wing militia wannabes.
 
It's an ingenious trap the KKK have set for themselves, whatever the decision.

No protest from them and politicians will pull the flag. Do protest and the last legs of the 'heritage' argument begin to look even more dodgy.

I don't even think the "heritage" argument is dodgy. Problem is it's a heritage OF hate.

The nazi flag is part of the history of germany. It IS a history of hate.

The mere fact that the confederate flag happened does not erase the racist connotations associated with it.
 
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