Koei Tecmo: ‘Switch 2 Is Closer to the Series S Than PS4’
Baemono
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As mentioned previously, the PS4 Pro cannot run open world games at 60fps, not even PS3 remasters. We already have plenty open worlds game on the Switch 2 running at 60fps. Hence raw power doesn't mean everything.
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Boy bawang
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Whatever the debate is, I choose to believe Karim @ Neogaf rather than professional developers from Koei Tecmo or CDPR who've been working with the machine for months.
Baemono
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Even if he's French ?
Steve Holt
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Regarding the topic - was anyone saying otherwise? I thought this was just assumed.
LordOcidax
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Funny stuff because when it's leaked switch 2 docked mode close ps4 pro switch 2 handlemode more like ps4 "no way"; Koei Tecmo said something "gotcha I knew it"
So much salt because I dare to say switch 2 is not more close to series S specs. Good grief how old are you people. As if I said it's a shitty hardware lol.
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Pro can't run games at 60 fps because it has shitty cpu, but it had more gpu power so higher resolution and so on etc etc
LordOcidax
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"In terms of raw computing power, is it closer to the PlayStation 4 or the Xbox Series S?
There are a lot of characteristics when it comes to raw computing power so it's difficult to generalize, but I think it can be thought as closer to the Series S."
Koei Tecmo dev>>>>>>>>>>>>>>X1000>>>> You. Deal with it
And when some other dev would say otherwise you will deal with it?"In terms of raw computing power, is it closer to the PlayStation 4 or the Xbox Series S?
There are a lot of characteristics when it comes to raw computing power so it's difficult to generalize, but I think it can be thought as closer to the Series S."
Koei Tecmo dev>>>>>>>>>>>>>>X1000>>>> You. Deal with it
LordOcidax
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What "Some" other dev?
You and the other nintendo fans literally crufixed DF for weeks and I'm not even a fan of them, there are other sources who reported the same stuff, it's not reliable just the source who said what you want to hear. The same tecmo developer admitted it's just a personal opinion with the word "I think".What "Some" other dev?
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LordOcidax
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Tecmo are not the only devs little child.What sources? DF?Devs are saying otherwise
Baemono
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Hence raw power doesn't mean everything.
You don't have any PS3 open world port running at 1440p@60fps on PS4 Pro, the tech is old, raw power number might be high but doesn't mean everything, which was the point he was trying to make
Zacfoldor
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YES! Bwahahahaha! I have been saying this. Switch 2 hardware is WAY underrated pretty much everywhere. This is the first time Nintendo did actually put out good hardware since the gamecube. The thing fucking strokes. I'm sorry but the Switch 2 is a beast and I'm tired of pretending it is not. Especially for the specs. Nvidia pulled off some magic here. This proves why AMD sucks for gpu. I would NEVER buy an AMD videocard and Nintendo knows why, lol.
Honestly, just based on horsepower, Switch 2 is about twice as powerful as I expected.
Honestly, just based on horsepower, Switch 2 is about twice as powerful as I expected.
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existensmaximum
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Very interesting chart! The only thing missing are the power draws.
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Topher
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Yes. It has been an ongoing debate for weeks.
Baemono
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How not. Game on switch 2 need DLSS otherwise can't keep the resolution of the ps4/ps4 pro cause raw power... I mean....
LordOcidax
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What it has to do to be french in the contest of the thread. No I'm not anyway
And you know why? Think a bitCDPR??
Obviously, the console was designed around the DLSS
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Topher
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You don't have many PS3 ports at all though. The Cell processor is such a complicated technology that the vast majority of games are stuck on the system and porting isn't worth the effort.
If the Switch 2 has the power capabilities of the PS4 or PS4 Pro but the end result is more in line with Xbox Series S then that is a good thing particulary for a portable.
Never said otherwise. But when crossgen port will stop, I doubt will see the same result in more complex games.imo.
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Baemono
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Yeah cause DRS, checkerboard rendering weren't a thing on PS4, sure
Zathalus
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In terms of games? Off the too of my head Hogwarts Legacy, Yakuza 0, and Street Fighter 6 are all better on the PS4 Pro.
Hogwarts Legacy 720p vs 1080p.
Yakuza 0 1080p vs 1440p
Street Fighter 6 1080p (from 540p DLSS) vs 1440p
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I think you was there just to know I was french.
LordOcidax
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Maybe because uses a mobile hardware and the TDP is 10-40 watts…
Its not a 200watts console… You are just pointing obvious things dude, the end result is what matters here.You already changed the contest. So fast. Wow.Maybe because uses a mobile hardware and the TDP is 10-40 watts…
Baemono
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I said PS3 port to mean 7th gen ports. Like RDR, which doesn't run at 60 on PS4, but can on Switch 2
LordOcidax
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IQ, textures, framerates, loading times are better on Switch 2.
Better input resolution not equal to better IQ now.
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Topher
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Perhaps. Hopefully the devs will restrain themselves from trying to add too much to the games. They have done that at times with PS5 and it often turns into a complete mess. There is nothing wrong with games with simple graphics, imo.
Ah....ok.
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Baemono
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That's a very french way to answer the question
Are you french? Anyway it's funny even when someone said otherwise you still find a way to take your point.IQ, textures, framerates, loading times are better on Switch 2.
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LordOcidax
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Lol, not at all. DLSS is a fundamental aspect of the Switch 2 design… That's why i said raw power is irrelevant in this comparison. Is like comparing a 500hp Mustang va a 450hp Ferrari.
Dude...
Zathalus
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Yakuza 0 has the exact same settings barring resolution. Hogwarts Legacy has almost the exact same settings as PS4 Pro as well, with a handful of Series S equivalent settings, it's still over half as less pixels. Street Fighter 6 has higher settings (like SSR) on the PS4 Pro and a far higher resolution.IQ, textures, framerates, loading times are better on Switch 2.
Yes, the Switch 2 has faster loading and dramatically better CPU, but it's pretty clear the raw power of the PS4 Pro GPU is better.
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LordOcidax
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Some of you keep talking about raw power
. Even CPDR said that they can't made Phantom Liberty on XO/PS4 due to hardware limitations, The Xbox One X have more raw power than the Series S and is not capable to run Cyberpunk at 60fps.Yes because they have weaker cpu. But gpu is more powerful so higher resolution. What exactly it's so tough to admit.Some of you keep talking about raw power
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Zathalus
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Because raw GPU power still matters for a lot of games? I just listed three that look better on the PS4 Pro? If you don't have a heavy CPU load in your game like Cyberpunk and the game comes out on both PS4 Pro and the Switch 2, the PS4 Pro version of the game should have the higher resolution just due to the fact that it has significantly more compute available.Some of you keep talking about raw power
LordOcidax
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Lol, dude that's OBVIOUS
the Switch 2 uses mobile hardware... Everybody knows that . You keep pointing obvious things dude… But due to more modern features on the Switch 2 is more close to Series S than PS4… Said by KOEI and CDPR devs… Raw power is irrelevant in this comparison.
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DeafTourette
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Cross gen support is still going on for the Switch 1, so your statement makes no sense.
So when they will start to develop current multiplat games on switch 2?
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I give up. And why you continue to repeat it. lol.Lol, dude that's OBVIOUS
Buggy Loop
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Oh my god
You missed all the drama? I'm exhausted from all this debate since early 2024
DeafTourette
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You DO realize it just came out, right? Like last week. Wait for the next Direct.