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Kotaku has a great article on the history of Disneyland's Haunted Mansion

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Dalek

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Disney's Haunted Mansion Is A Terrific Mess

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The Haunted Mansion is one of Disney’s greatest creations. It’s also an unfixable, thematic mess, which is part of its appeal. Disney has allowed it to remain imperfect for the past half century, a wise exception to the company’s notorious perfectionism.

It’s a mix of ideas, a collection of concepts about how funny or scary to make the best haunted house. It’s changed in small ways over the years and is rewarding to appreciate as a kid or an adult.

As a child, we might take it at face value, letting ourselves be scared or delighted by the “999 happy haunts.” As we get older, and once we’ve been on the ride a time or 20, we can appreciate the Haunted Mansion with a shrewder eye. We can take pleasure in the craft and process of the ride’s creation and operation. It’s like being an adult fan of magic. No adult thinks that Penn & Teller can actually make balls appear out of thin air. Rather, it’s admiration for the magicians’ skills that makes the tricks engaging. Knowing the secret can deepen one’s appreciation for how well the tricks are performed.

The ride is a memorably spectacle. It employs several classic illusions in the service of entertainment. For example, the Pepper’s Ghost effect that creates the transparent ‘ballroom scene’ dates back to the 16th century. The effect shows up in the mansion’s Grand Hall, where glowing, transparent ghost couples dance among real life props. Other ghosts disappear and reappear at a banquet table. Still more ghosts swing from the chandelier or pop out of oil paintings. It’s a scene of uncommon beauty and impressiveness. It’s so impressive, in fact, that during the ride’s testing, the effect tricked experts, who were shocked by the sheer audacity of what they were seeing. “We fooled [the magicians] too,” boasted Haunted Mansion designer Rolly Crump in Jason Surrell’s official guide to the great ride. “They’d just never seen a piece of glass that big.”


The Haunted Mansion’s creation was notoriously tortured. Disney’s developers spent over 10 years creating ideas before settling on the final vision. Even that was a product of hard compromise. There were too many great ideas, and many of them live on through preliminary sketches and concept art. One potential storyline for the Mansion climaxed with a Headless Horseman. Another story treatment, according to Surrell, told the dark story of Captain Gore, who murdered his bride in cold blood and bricked her up in a cellar wall.

Another idea integrated a “Museum of the Weird,” where guests could observe oddities such as a melting candle man and a living chair. You can see models for some of these oddities below. The man in the image is Rolly Crump, who, along with Yale Gracey, did a lot of preliminary work on the attraction. It’s mind-blowing to look at stuff like this and imagine an alternate Haunted Mansion, that would be no less creative or engaging.


I LOVE the Haunted Mansion and my daughter does too-we're planning our trip to go there this year for the Christmas theme. She even wakes up every morning to the music from the Haunted Mansion as her alarm clock. I love stories like this that show you the behind the scenes decisions and work that happened to create these attractions. Loads more at the link.
 

kai3345

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This ride fucked me up hard as a kid. Had nightmares about it for years

Now that im not 5 it would be cool to go back and go through it again
 

Wanderer5

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Haunted Mansion is one of my favorite rides at both Disneyland and World. It has alot of nice charm and spooks from either of them, with the one in World pretty much getting the edge cause the addition of the library and the piano.

It would be kind of nice to go to Disneyland Paris for Phantom Manor alone heh. I have a book that talks about the history of the rides (and the movie, blargh), and it was fascinating going through the stuff regarding Phantom Manor and its tragic premise.
 

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This ride fucked me up hard as a kid. Had nightmares about it for years

Now that im not 5 it would be cool to go back and go through it again

At least it wasn't Extraterrorestrial Alien Encounter at Disney World.

The show where they strapped kids down and convinced them they were about to be eaten by an alien a HEHEHEHEHEHEH.

I'm still bitter I missed that one. It sounds like such a cool theater of the mind show. Stitch is...not.
 

Dalek

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Haunted Mansion is one of my favorite rides at both Disneyland and World. It has alot of nice charm and spooks from either of them, with the one in World pretty much getting the edge cause the addition of the library and the piano.

It would be kind of nice to go to Disneyland Paris for Phantom Manor alone heh. I have a book that talks about the history of the rides (and the movie, blargh), and it was fascinating going through the stuff regarding Phantom Manor and its tragic tale that it laid.

I have a soundtrack of Haunted Mansion stuff from Disney and my kid likes to listen to it in the car-her favorite is the Phantom Manor stuff and she wants us to go to Disneyland Paris to check it out one day. We've watched the ride videos for it on Youtube a lot.
 

Zackat

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At least it wasn't Extraterrorestrial Alien Encounter at Disney World.

The show where they strapped kids down and convinced them they were about to be eaten by an alien a HEHEHEHEHEHEH.

I'm still bitter I missed that one. It sounds like such a cool theater of the mind show. Stitch is...not.
It was a great ride. So much better than the Stitch one.
 
I haven't been to Disneyworld for nearly 20 years but I still remember fondly the Haunted Mansion as one of the most interesting and fun experiences I've had at an amusement park. The use of technology in creating illusions awed me.
 

DarkKyo

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I love this ride! It really scared me as a kid but as I got older I started to appreciate how cool it was. It's just so immersive and interesting for such an old attraction.
 

jett

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One of the more memorable rides I went on Disneyland as a kid. What I remember most were the ghosts that seemed to be sitting next to you when you looked at a mirror.

I wonder what would I think if I went back as an adult today.
 

Loxley

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Awesome article. The first time I went on this ride as a six year-old, I was too damn scared I kept my eyes shut for the majority of the ride. When it was done, my parents decided to be extra dickish and tell me that a ghost actually came down and sat next to me. Thanks mom and dad :D

Fast forward about 15 years when I went on it for the second time, I absolutely loved it. The dated effects are incredibly charming.
 
Haunted Mansion is one of my favorite rides at both Disneyland and World. It has alot of nice charm and spooks from either of them, with the one in World pretty much getting the edge cause the addition of the library and the piano.

It would be kind of nice to go to Disneyland Paris for Phantom Manor alone heh. I have a book that talks about the history of the rides (and the movie, blargh), and it was fascinating going through the stuff regarding Phantom Manor and its tragic premise.

As an actual ride it's really not dissimilar to the California one (I've been to Paris about 5 times and Anaheim twice, though admittedly both times in California it was the Nightmare before Christmas themed version, but you can see through the stuff pretty easily - the rides are almost identical, even if the back story isn't.)

Incidentally this is also true of Tower of Terror, which are literally identical, despite it being really quite different in World.
 
At least it wasn't Extraterrorestrial Alien Encounter at Disney World.

The show where they strapped kids down and convinced them they were about to be eaten by an alien a HEHEHEHEHEHEH.

I'm still bitter I missed that one. It sounds like such a cool theater of the mind show. Stitch is...not.

I am happy I got to experience Extraterrorestrial Alien Encounter as a kid, and sad to have learned many years later it had been removed to be used for something else. I still remember the 'blood' they drip onto the audience after the alien kills someone with the lights off.
 

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FuuRe

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Looks cool! hopefully someday I will go.

A little off topic, I first thought this was about the "Abandoned by Disney" creepypasta
 
I covered my eyes the first few times I went on it as a kid (same with Pirates of the Caribbean), but it's become one of my favorite rides at Disneyland in recent years.
 
At least it wasn't Extraterrorestrial Alien Encounter at Disney World.

The show where they strapped kids down and convinced them they were about to be eaten by an alien a HEHEHEHEHEHEH.

I'm still bitter I missed that one. It sounds like such a cool theater of the mind show. Stitch is...not.

That ride was also at Disneyland too.
 

TRios Zen

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First rode this in the 70's at Disney World (damn I'm old) and rode it often enough to remember that the graveyard always creeped me out.

Almost 40 years later riding it with my son I told him that, and he told me the part that creeped him out the most (the haunted hallway) and just like that, both our days got even better. For all the heat, and crowds and cost, still love the Magic Kingdom.
 

shoplifter

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I love both the DL and MK versions *so much*. I basically drag my kids on with me (they love it too, but at DL it's basically right next to PotC and the like it more so we have to go back and forth.
 

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That ride was also at Disneyland too.

That retrospective actually goes into Disneyland and how debuting at Magic Kingdom may not have been the best idea.

Eisner’s expectation was that Alien Encounter would be duplicated at every Disney Resort in the world.

The space was already closed and cleared out at Disneyland in preparation for Tomorrowland 2055 (which never came. When Disneyland did get a disastrous New Tomorrowland in 1998, the space prepared for Alien Encounter became a pizza restaurant instead).

Because Magic Kingdom’s New Tomorrowland had been salvaged from the financial slow-down after Disneyland Paris’s problems, it by default got the first Alien Encounter.

The problem is that Magic Kingdom, of Disney World’s four parks, is the most G-rated. Epcot is “mature,” and Hollywood Studios has Star Tours and Tower of Terror and even a scene from Alien on the Great Movie Ride (see photo from reason #1 above). Even Animal Kingdom would scare your pants off with DINOSAUR or Expedition Everest. But Magic Kingdom just didn’t do intense. Even today, Magic Kingdom is almost entirely for fairytales, and Alien Encounter was entirely out of place there.

It’s a shame it didn’t debut at Disneyland. With Indiana Jones Adventure, Captain EO, and Star Tours located inside Disneyland Park, that castle park had much more in the way of PG-13 fare, and Alien Encounter would probably have received much warmer reception there. If it had, it would probably still be there, too. It’s a better and more natural fit among Star Wars and Indiana Jones than it is among Magic Kingdom’s lineup.
 

Garlador

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Years ago with my little brother, the ride broke down in the graveyard and we had to stay there... in the screaming dark... for about an hour while they fixed it.

My poor younger brother a nervous wreck the entire time. I found it hilarious.
 
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Are there any good documentary about the Disney parks.
(other than the ones that run a billion times a year on Travel Channel.)

Y'know, I've always wondered why there isn't a "kayfabe" Disney guide that goes into all the details and backstories of the attractions. I'd love something like that.
 

gimmmick

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I have been to disneyland during christmas season 3 times and it's one of my favorite attractions in December. I love how they adapt the nightmare before christmas theme to it.
 
I am happy I got to experience Extraterrorestrial Alien Encounter as a kid, and sad to have learned many years later it had been removed to be used for something else. I still remember the 'blood' they drip onto the audience after the alien kills someone with the lights off.

Me too. Went for my honeymoon and couldn't believe they did that. I got the biggest smile on my face when I felt those droplets land on me. So gutsy.

Next time I went it was gone. I still hold a grudge against Stitch's Great Escape.
 

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Me too. Went for my honeymoon and couldn't believe they did that. I got the biggest smile on my face when I felt those droplets land on me. So gutsy.

Next time I went it was gone. I still hold a grudge against Stitch's Great Escape.

And it's not like Youtube is any help. It's one of those attractions you either did or can never really experience.

Stitch is just a big tease.
 

mclem

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As an actual ride it's really not dissimilar to the California one (I've been to Paris about 5 times and Anaheim twice, though admittedly both times in California it was the Nightmare before Christmas themed version, but you can see through the stuff pretty easily - the rides are almost identical, even if the back story isn't.)

Fun fact: One significant difference. In one version the stretch room has the walls going up, in the other it has the floor going down.

You can remember which is which if you can remember why Pirates of the Carribean has a flume in it.

It was originally due to space. In Disneyland, due to the limited space available, the main show buildings for both Pirates and HM are actually quite far out, beyond the railway track. The flume and stretch room are both used to travel *underneath* the railway to get through to the main show building.

Because both the flume and the stretch rooms were popular parts of the ride, Disney preserved them in the WDW versions, but there was no need for them, so they decided to implement the HM stretch rooms differently

All IIRC, that is. Apologies if there's a couple of mistakes.
 
This ride fucked me up hard as a kid. Had nightmares about it for years

Now that im not 5 it would be cool to go back and go through it again

You should!! I had a similar experience - my dad tricked me into going when I was a child (I was terrified and he said we were just going to look inside real quick) and I wound up crying the entire time.

Flash forward to the fall of 2015, I went to Disneyland for the first time in almost 20 years and saw the Haunted Mansion was Nightmare Before Christmas themed. Figuring that, if the ride actually WAS scary Jack Skellington and friends would soften the blow (I know, I know, but I am a very easy scare and rollercoasters fuck me up) I went on it and it is AMAZING!! I went again this past March and got to ride on it and see the normal version and it is just fascinating. There was a little kid who was getting really scared and his dad was trying to comfort him and, remembering my bad experience, I offered "Don't worry, the ghosts here are nice. They just want to party." which seemed to help. It's so so so cool if you have the chance you gotta go check it out!

The original bride scared the bejeezus out of me as a kid.

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Oh, wow, the new Bride sucks so much in comparison. Hah!
 
I don't like the updates Disneyworld gave to the hitchhiking ghosts, turning them CG and animated. They're too wacky now when I always thought them quietly threatening.

I hear Phantom Manor in Paris has a really darker premise that ties into Thunder Mountain Railroad and Mystic Manor in Hong Kong is just technologically insane.
 

Dalek

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Are there any good documentary about the Disney parks.
(other than the ones that run a billion times a year on Travel Channel.)

My kid found a bunch on the making of the haunted mansion on youtube-there's one where one of the imagineers, Tony Baxter literally walks through the mansion after hours and talks about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=timXmbx5t6I

The audio is out of sync though-but really fascinating stuff. Edit-this is WDW by the way, not Disneyland.

Here he is right before The Bride got him.
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You should!! I had a similar experience - my dad tricked me into going when I was a child (I was terrified and he said we were just going to look inside real quick) and I wound up crying the entire time.

Flash forward to the fall of 2015, I went to Disneyland for the first time in almost 20 years and saw the Haunted Mansion was Nightmare Before Christmas themed. Figuring that, if the ride actually WAS scary Jack Skellington and friends would soften the blow (I know, I know, but I am a very easy scare and rollercoasters fuck me up) I went on it and it is AMAZING!! I went again this past March and got to ride on it and see the normal version and it is just fascinating. There was a little kid who was getting really scared and his dad was trying to comfort him and, remembering my bad experience, I offered "Don't worry, the ghosts here are nice. They just want to party." which seemed to help. It's so so so cool if you have the chance you gotta go check it out!

I got back from a Florida business trip and went to Disneyworld with a few local co-workers. I was shocked to find out that the holiday changes to the Haunted Mansion are Disneyland only. Same for Small World, I believe. That's a shame because the holiday versions are awesome.
 

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You know, when I went to Disneyland in March, I went on a bunch more rides than I did in the fall, and I actually came away kind of depressed about how old and outdated everything is there, especially since the Disney Imagineers are supposed to be like the best most forward-thinking themepark engineers in the world. The animatronics, even on some of the newer rides like the Monster's Inc one in DCA, are really... pathetic? They barely move at all. I mean I get it for the older rides, I don't know if they could ever update something like Small World to have better animatronics without people absolutely losing their minds (and I don't know if something like SW really needs to be more high tech) but I dunno, it just didn't seem very magical to me as odd as that may sound. (Even though I did wind up having such a nice time with my GF there that I wound up crying from happiness as the fireworks went off as we were leaving)

That, Mystic Manor, that is some fucking incredible Imagineering. That is the kind of magic and awe I expect from a Disney theme park. Holy fucking shit that looks absolutely insane.

I got back from a Florida business trip and went to Disneyworld with a few local co-workers. I was shocked to find out that the holiday changes to the Haunted Mansion are Disneyland only. Same for Small World, I believe. That's a shame because the holiday versions are awesome.

Aw that sucks! I had been wondering about that, my girlfriend lives in Texas and until this past March when she visited and we went together, she had only ever been to DisneyWorld once, and even though it was during Christmas she said they didn't do anything Nightmare-related to the Haunted Mansion. I wonder why it's a DisneyLand-only switch? I mean obviously with something like that Mystic Manor I can understand, but from what I've heard the DL and WDW Haunted Mansions are nearly identical?
 

uniform

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Went in 1986 and I still remember it well. The hanging corpse up in the cupola really freaked me out in a bad way for some reason. The rest I loved.
 
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