Largest drop of games FPS boosted to date, bringing the total number of FPS boosted titles to 97

01011001 said:
***Already ran at 60fps on One X/Series X without FPS boost, so no idea what's up with that
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At a glance, I'm guessing its because 60FPS has been added to the Series S version, which doesn't use the One X but rather the One S version. Could be wrong on that, though.
 
Outstanding value-add here. I own so many of these games, that I think it might just be worth going through some of them again to pick up some achievements. After Resident Evil 8, of course.
 
Why isn't the list in the OP?
Glanced over it.
Interested to check out Anthem, Catalyst, maybe ReCore?
120hz is pointless for me and many others atm, just sayin.
 
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SenjutsuSage said:
What's really badass about what Microsoft is doing is that it revitalizes interest in games that were already released. Some of these games are going to get some extra sales because of this announcement.
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Yeah I think they know this, some games on the list are even on sale right now - AC Unity, bought!

Getting these updates without any dev work, and on third party games, is the real magic, it might open many closed doors. I wonder if they can update Sunset Overdrive? Insomniac won't likely touch it again but might be okay with this.
 
Malcolm9 said:
Good work by MS for sure but nothing to be jealous of, just a nice bonus.
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Thanks for setting him straight. Your PSN gift card will be emailed to you after two more posts of equal or greater marginalization have been validated by your Sony advisor.
 
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fallingdove said:
And yet the 360 library is what needs these upgrades the most. The 360 library is superior to the Xbox One in every way. I would definitely consider getting a Series S/X if 360 games got a FPS/graphics boost.
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Totally agree. The 360 also has a lot more games than XB1 that are trapped on the console that cannot already be played on PC, so I would find this pretty tantalizing.
 
thatJohann said:
Far cry 5 is a joy to play now. I don't mind the lower res. Still looks great.
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I got to admit I was a tad disappointed at first but I just sit a bit further back. It probably look better on a 1080p screen so I will try later today.
 
fatmarco said:
Because Far Cry 5 was native 4k on One X. Series X doesn't have the bandwith/ grunt to quite hit 60 with that code running within the limitations of its BC mode sadly.
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But isn't Series X more than capable for hitting 60fps at 4K(granted with no optimizations it might not be perfect locked 60). Games like Division 2 have performed admirably on Series X despite not having system-level optimization to the game's code
 
Rally cool that Xbox is making all those updates for last gen games.

Sony, in comparison, is really lacking in that regard. Even their PS+ Collection games apparently aren't worth it to invest into a FPS/resolution boost.

At this rate the only chance we will get updates for PS4 games is when the PS5 gets hacked and fans do the work themselves.
 
Fredrik said:
Yeah I think they know this, some games on the list are even on sale right now - AC Unity, bought!

Getting these updates without any dev work, and on third party games, is the real magic, it might open many closed doors. I wonder if they can update Sunset Overdrive? Insomniac won't likely touch it again but might be okay with this.
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It's honestly a game changer for consoles. This kind of stuff has never been done before in this space on such a wide scale.
 
Mr. PlayStation said:
But isn't Series X more than capable for hitting 60fps at 4K(granted with no optimizations it might not be perfect locked 60). Games like Division 2 have performed admirably on Series X despite not having system-level optimization to the game's code
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Well interestingly the Division 2 was almost 100% native on One X (according to DF, though I imagine that's just earlier areas) , despite having a dynamic resolution scaler, but on Series X the scaler can bring it down to around 1800p at its worst when at 60fps.

Far Cry 5 sounds like it didn't even have a dynamic res to fall back on, and rendered full 4k on One X. So that means unfortunately we're left with the 1440x1080 res of the Xbox One S version.

Keep in mind BC doesn't utilise all the Series consoles power either.
 
i remember competing ac unity %100 on a system with r7 265 and fx 6300 :messenger_sad_relieved:

i was getting 24-35 at 900p lowest settings , fps was all over the place, but i enjoyed it anyways

nice to see it getting 60 fps boost on xbox platforms!!
 
Mr. PlayStation said:
But isn't Series X more than capable for hitting 60fps at 4K(granted with no optimizations it might not be perfect locked 60). Games like Division 2 have performed admirably on Series X despite not having system-level optimization to the game's code
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In some games it's not changed, those games have it on by default, other games have FPS boost turned off by default and those mostly plays the One S version of the game, I guess they will working on this more, but that's just a guess...
 
lh032 said:
most people not interested to play old games.
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Wrap it up guys, ih032 speaks for 'most people' (on the planet, I'm assuming?).

Is AC Unity any good? Last one I played was Black Flag and I remember Unity getting a hammering at launch.
 
Mad Max is actually controllable now at 60fps, less input lag. Probably even better at 120.
Guess I'm in the market for a 120 TV pretty soon.
 
Banjo64 said:
Wrap it up guys, ih032 speaks for 'most people' (on the planet, I'm assuming?).

Is AC Unity any good? Last one I played was Black Flag and I remember Unity getting a hammering at launch.
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its a harsh reality, they would prefer playing games with next gen great visuals.
 
Mr. PlayStation said:
But isn't Series X more than capable for hitting 60fps at 4K(granted with no optimizations it might not be perfect locked 60). Games like Division 2 have performed admirably on Series X despite not having system-level optimization to the game's code
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Its simple, games on FPS Boost get zero changes to games code so likely not optimised in anyway, easiest way to boost them to 60fps is to switch the game to think its running on a One S, but with unlocked framerates, this gived enormous head room for Series X to hit 60 without needing to do a whole validation of the game

if Devs went in and wanted to make Far Cry 5 60fps on Series X, they can probably easily do that while maintaining 4k (or maybe drop it alittle) but thats not how these games are getting boosted
 
lh032 said:
its a harsh reality, they would prefer playing games with next gen great visuals.
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Please mate do tell, is there anything else 'they', the great unwashed masses, prefer doing? Do you just have some giant database on the worldwide populace's gaming/tv/sport/mastubatory habits? I'm really curious.
 
Mr. PlayStation said:
But isn't Series X more than capable for hitting 60fps at 4K(granted with no optimizations it might not be perfect locked 60). Games like Division 2 have performed admirably on Series X despite not having system-level optimization to the game's code
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Yes it's capable. But AFAIK Division 2 is developer-patched for Series X, Far Cry 5 is not.
 
Dibils2k said:
Its simple, games on FPS Boost get zero changes to games code so likely not optimised in anyway, easiest way to boost them to 60fps is to switch the game to think its running on a One S, but with unlocked framerates, this gived enormous head room for Series X to hit 60 without needing to do a whole validation of the game

if Devs went in and wanted to make Far Cry 5 60fps on Series X, they can probably easily do that while maintaining 4k (or maybe drop it alittle) but thats not how these games are getting boosted
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Yeah, MS screwed up by not giving the XsX GPU a bit more juice to essentially double the One X each time, every time.

Imagine if that were the case. One S is so far behind that running those profiles is a total kick in the nuts to,what is an awesome feature.
 
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Shmunter said:
Yeah, MS screwed up by not giving the XsX GPU a bit more juice to essentially double the One X each time, every time.

Imagine if that were the case. One S is so far behind that running those profiles is a total kick in the nuts to,what is an awesome feature.
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Not even sure how Microsoft could have screwed up when the gpu in the series x is the fastest gpu on the planet right now in a console.

I guess they could have waited a year until they had the exact gpu that was twice as fast as the one x gpu so you'd not have something to moan about.
 
Shmunter said:
Yeah, MS screwed up by not giving the XsX GPU a bit more juice to essentially double the One X each time, every time.

Imagine if that were the case. One S is so far behind that running those profiles is a total kick in the nuts to,what is an awesome feature.
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It is twice as powerful, 12.15 TFLOPS v 6. However code doesn't just scale like that as we see in PC gaming and everywhere else. Example the unpatched PS4 disc version of AC Unity, the PS5 is 5-6 times more powerful than the PS4 yet doesn't run the game at 60fps locked.
Series X could run these games at higher settings but that would require someone patching all these games and developers just aren't going to do that for no financial gain.
So Microsoft didn't screw up, they are offering 97 unpatched games a substantial framerate boost free of charge, some screw up.
 
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I think they should let people run these games on one x enhanced 60 fps even with dips like fallout 4 with the mod vrr can negate most of the inconsistency
But for some weird reason they blocked the 4k 60 trick in the last xbox update
 
Riky said:
It is twice as powerful, 12.15 TFLOPS v 6. However code doesn't just scale like that as we see in PC gaming and everywhere else. Example the unpatched PS4 disc version of AC Unity, the PS5 is 5-6 times more powerful than the PS4 yet doesn't run the game at 60fps locked.
Series X could run these games at higher settings but that would require someone patching all these games and developers just aren't going to do that for no financial gain.
So Microsoft didn't screw up, they are offering 97 unpatched games a substantial framerate boost free of charge, some screw up.
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MS beyond criticism trend already starting?

Screwed up as far as I'm concerned; as per my prior explanation. potentially even using variable clocks similar to ps5 to tilt the power scale as needed should have been part of the engineering consideration. Anything to bring this across the line in a pristine condition, not compromised.
 
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Shmunter said:
MS beyond criticism trend already starting?

Screwed up as far as I'm concerned; as per my prior explanation. potentially even using variable clocks similar to ps5 to tilt the power scale as needed should have been part of the engineering consideration. Anything to bring this across the line in a pristine condition, not compromised.
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Bigger screw up is that your BC support is so poor you can't do this at all.
 
Maybe MS should have released a gimped and half baked XOX like Sony did with the PS4 Pro, then there would have been nothing wrong with their 12.15TF this gen?

Behave yourself Shmunter Shmunter 😉. You can't knock MS for continually bringing out superior GPUs and BC solutions when compared to their competitors!

This brings an amazing lease of life to every game on it. I loved FC5, and will definitely go back to that at 60fps.

Now they need to start addressing some of these X360 games. What a machine this XSX is turning out to be!
 
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Banjo64 said:
Wrap it up guys, ih032 speaks for 'most people' (on the planet, I'm assuming?).

Is AC Unity any good? Last one I played was Black Flag and I remember Unity getting a hammering at launch.
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For me Unity is the best AC, although mechanics of the new ones are better.
 
BigLee74 said:
Maybe MS should have released a gimped and half baked XOX like Sony did with the PS4 Pro, then there would have been nothing wrong with their 12.15TF this gen?

Behave yourself Shmunter Shmunter 😉. You can't knock MS for continually bringing out superior GPUs and BC solutions when compared to their competitors!

This brings an amazing lease of life to every game on it. I loved FC5, and will definitely go back to that at 60fps.

Now they need to start addressing some of these X360 games. What a machine this XSX is turning out to be!
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Sure I can, just did knock it.

Ms has rolled out something cool, but not as cool as I'd like it to be. It's ok if you think it's perfect, and ms likes that you like it. ideal relationship.

Funny how that automatically makes me think Sony is doing it better. Projection, just a funny word, someone somewhere made up.
 
Shmunter said:
Sure I can, just did knock it.

Ms has rolled out something cool, but not as cool as I'd like it to be. It's ok if you think it's perfect, and ms likes that you like it. ideal relationship.

Funny how that automatically makes me think Sony is doing it better. Projection, just a funny word, someone somewhere made up.
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Yeah, sorry, you're right. They totally screwed up. It's been compromised. It's not in pristine condition. I wish they'd just left them all at 30fps, because I can't sleep at night now knowing how non-perfect those 60fps upgrades are.

Wait, there's an option to disable it all? Phew. Relax. Back to the unadulterated jank of last gen. Saved!
 
fatmarco said:
Because Far Cry 5 was native 4k on One X. Series X doesn't have the bandwith/ grunt to quite hit 60 with that code running within the limitations of its BC mode sadly.
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The thing is that by default the FPS boost is not activated if it meant sacrifices in the game like dropping resolution, unless I am mistaken.

Game A:

if FPS Boost is supported and does not require a resolution / gfx compromise vs regular BC titles support —> FPS boost enabled by default + normal emulation

if FPS Boost is supported and requires a resolution / gfx compromise —> FPS disabled by default (user can turn it on)

If FPS Boost is not supported —> Game is emulated normally
 
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