Can someone explain Hotshot's position on CLG? I thought he was a temporary sub last week, yet here he is again.
he is really overrated.Bjerg gonna bjerg.
he is really overrated.
more of it comes down to aprhomoo being a bad support who can't hit abilities.
How is he overrated? Did you not watch any of his previous Leblanc / Zed games? He is destroying every he is up against ...
That and he completely outplayed Doublelift trying to dodge his skillshots this game in their duel bottom.
the leblanc stuff that got blown up by reddit is exactly the kind of stuff that makes him overrated. the doublelift stuff was another instance of poor play on the enemy team. he came in on ezreal with hardly any mana and a chain vest. doublelift just didn't dodge right.How is he overrated? Did you not watch any of his previous Leblanc / Zed games? He is destroying every he is up against ...
That and he completely outplayed Doublelift trying to dodge his skillshots this game in their duel bottom.
the level of midlaners in na is kinda low (tho getting better) so he seems a bit more beast than he actually is. I mean he's playing against hotshotgg lol
the leblanc stuff that got blown up by reddit is exactly the kind of stuff that makes him overrated. the doublelift stuff was another instance of poor play on the enemy team. he came in on ezreal with hardly any mana and a chain vest. doublelift just didn't dodge right.
doublelift didn't have enough mana for an extended fight, and since he was already going down the blue build ezreal path it would have been a very drawn out fight if doublelift tried to down bjergsen. there was no danger to gragas in that fight.Doublelift had red. If Bjergsen missed his shit he was dead.
the level of midlaners in na is kinda low (tho getting better) so he seems a bit more beast than he actually is. I mean he's playing against hotshotgg lol
shiphtur had a better leblanc on the same day bjergsen was playing it. it doesn't really matter. there's not some metric to measure laners by on their value.
TSM is a team that wins because of their decision making and cooperation, not because of individual play. People freaking out over basic Leblanc play is really just tiresome, and nothing about Bjergsen's technical skill has stood out in these games.And what metric are you using to come up with this conclusion? Kills? His team was STOMPING the other team.
What did shipthur do that was "better"? Did he do some sweet ass juke out micro'ing his clone on 2 people?
TSM is a team that wins because of their decision making and cooperation, not because of individual play. People freaking out over basic Leblanc play is really just tiresome, and nothing about Bjergsen's technical skill has stood out in these games.
here is genuinely good leblanc play by shiphtur while his team is behind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svuMsfqgUsc
well leona into thresh is still a decent matchup, plus the ezreal leona combo is pretty beast.And he dumpstered Scarra, Pobelter, Voyboy ....
I know NA mid laners are worse than EU/Asia.
Bjergsen did pretty well when he was in Europe too.
Xpecial is much better than Aphro ... not sure why he thought picking Leona into Thresh was a good idea.
well not really a big eu fan, I actually like all the regions I watch about the same, for different reasons (na is about personalities, eu is about super midlaners, korea for me is about supports).Aren't you a big EU fan? You had to watch Bjergsen in games in their LCS match-ups last year. His stats seem to back up the idea that he was perfectly fine against the likes of Froggen, Alex Ich, and xPeke.
well leona into thresh is still a decent matchup, plus the ezreal leona combo is pretty beast.
also scarra, pobelter and voyboy aren't particularly all that great but yea, he's pretty much the best na mid right now, even tho I feel like shiptur and mancloud and hai are pretty good when they're on point. that doesn't mean he's overrated, his leblanc game against voyboy was just simple outplays on his part, but nothing too impressive (I don't know why reddit loved his super simple leblanc double chain combo and felt like it needed a move-by-move explanation...)
I mean I feel like a lot of it is just tsm fanboys hyping it up but as someone that plays leblanc regularly I didn't see anything too impressive. while again as a syndra player watching his syndra is always impressive. or like faker with orianna and gragas, I can see him play them 10x times better than me and I'm amazed at it. leblanc is just a flashy champion that maybe for people that don't play her often seems more complicated than she really is. I mean curse fell for the clone trick when they had patched that out a bunch of patches ago...
well not really a big eu fan, I actually like all the regions I watch about the same, for different reasons (na is about personalities, eu is about super midlaners, korea for me is about supports).
and yeah I think he's great and I love his syndra, I'm just saying that his lane opponents are pretty lacking which can make him look better than he is. he could hold his own against the big mids but doesn't really deserve this hype around him only because he outplayed voyboy or something. that's all
he's just hailed as the second coming of faker when all he did is beat voyboy in lane with leblancWhat hype doesn't he deserve though? He's coming into one of the most popular NA teams with high expectations for his performance against his lane opponents. He has done exactly that.
And he obviously has made TSM better than it was previously.
I haven't read anyone hyping him up to be someone to bring down Faker ...
I'm not even a TSM fanboy ... I like them, C9 and Curse (less so with Dominate on the team) ... dislike the rest.
he's just hailed as the second coming of faker when all he did is beat voyboy in lane with leblanc
I mean for me bjergsen is like lmq or quantic or eg.na. you just lose a lot of cred when you move to an (arguably) weaker region
we'll see how it goes, but reddit goes too crazy sometimes
Kind of amazing that Elise is 100% pick/ban and still flies under the nerf radar.
I don't think he is hailed as the 2nd coming of Faker at all ... just because people make highlight videos of his plays etc.
He's the "new toy" ... that's how it works. He's also only 17 ... so he has plenty of time to hone his skills even more.
Also he did more than beat voyboy in lane. There isn't anyone they've played against who has looked impressive against him mid. You don't need to downplay his abilities so much.
If Bjergsen was on Fnatic in xPeke's place they'd probably still be the same team scorewise.
Soraka/Urgot!
Should be fun to watch! Hopefully..
Could also be completely terrible to watch. I hope they do some cool stuff though.
I can feel the pain of XDG this game. So much poke and heals.
Urgot is mana intensive but pokes really well. Soraka acts as a mana battery for him to trade well and provides long term sustain. If the enemy team isn't good about hard engaging they'll get away with it.So what's the strategy behind the Soraka/Urgot lane?
So what's the strategy behind the Soraka/Urgot lane? Missed the laning phase, but it doesn't look like it panned out well. Was it just EG going for a poke comp, or was there something more behind it?
Hate that the shoutcasters feel the need to say things along the lines of "Well, Urgot and Soraka won't be able to win most games" though. It's just the second week and I'm already sick of the established range of picks. There's no reason to further discourage unorthodox picks, especially right after they win a game.
Decent game from what I saw though.
Shiphtur vs Bjergsen. Manaless AD vs Manaless AD. Dun dun dun.
Shiphtur vs Bjergsen. Manaless AD vs Manaless AD. Dun dun dun.
So, shiphtur versus Bjergsen.
Bjergsen got a solo kill on him as of yet.
Kata is not AD. :S
Kind of amazing that Elise is 100% pick/ban and still flies under the nerf radar.
It was a bad comp tbh that didn't take into account the enemy picks at all. No reason to run Riven/Kat/Olaf because they're all damage dealers who are doing for different things, and none of them are going to beat out their respective match ups.I really liked coast's comp, a lot of damage sources to allow for the resets
unfortunately they were just outclassed
bjerg as zed was a monster that game
WHAT THE FUCK WAS DAN DINH ON ABOUT?
Bloody shits?
It was a bad comp tbh that didn't take into account the enemy picks at all. No reason to run Riven/Kat/Olaf because they're all damage dealers who are doing for different things, and none of them are going to beat out their respective match ups.
Bjergsen had an easy time because he was running a single target assassin vs. a team fight one in lane. NA teams have to be smarter with their picks.
they were meaning for teamfights and actually managed to win one with like 6-7k less gold when things went their way
I dunno what the bans were but leona jinx and riven are both strong lanes and katarina sucks in lane but can play more passive (aka don't go 1v1 against zed at level 6)