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League of Legends Championship Series: Season 5
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HORRORSHØW
Member
if they're going to bring hai back, why not for incarnation instead of meteos?
Imperfected
Member
Meteos wasn't anything resembling a good jungler this season.
xDUMPWEEDx
Banned
Well it finally happened.
Team 8th
Cloud 9th
Team 8th
Cloud 9th
StarSketch
Banned
Damn, I bought tickets for NA finals and It looks like none of the teams I care about are going to make it. I knew c9 was having a rought time, but wow...
Nien is good. T8 support isn't.
C9 top and support should just retire. Also getting proper support staff and a LoL coach would help. Maybe Meteos jumped out of the sinking ship because of the fairly big chance of an auto relegation.
At least you'll get to watch two great teams, Dig and Gravity, play.
Gravity v TSM was really good.
C9 vs T8 for all the wrong reasons. If watching a former power house team get embarrassed is your thing, this is the game for you
Awesome thanks guys. Sounds like they were both good for different reasons.
the TIP/CLG game was really good
Stone Ocean
Member
C9 went full Gambit
Requiescat in pepperonis
Requiescat in pepperonis
PhazonBlazer
Member
CLG Meteos and TSM Sneaky.
The dream.
The dream.
xDUMPWEEDx
Banned
Those would be solid pickups.
I am still not buying into whole WildTurtle being washed up thing, btw
Imperfected
Member
I'm interested to see which of the two teams gets more disheartened.
Obviously, C9 is in miserable shape, spiritually as well as in terms of performance. TDK's got to be in pretty dire straits, too, though; the whole point of this for most of the players on that team was to punch a ticket to Worlds, and they're looking at a situation where instead they're in very real danger of being deported back to a region where they might not even be able to make a team.
The realest sadness on display. Almost a shame they don't have another head-to-head game to really bring the narrative together.
I don't really have any worries about c9 in the long term simply because the organization is so well run and player satisfaction seems high. It's one of those teams that other players want to play for.
Doesn't help them right now, though. It's a testament to how important shot calling is that c9 could fall so dramatically from the substitution of a single player who was widely considered one of their weaker players (on personal ability alone, sans shot calling).
And word is already that Meteos wants to stay with Cloud 9. What that entails is not clear.
Doesn't help them right now, though. It's a testament to how important shot calling is that c9 could fall so dramatically from the substitution of a single player who was widely considered one of their weaker players (on personal ability alone, sans shot calling).
And word is already that Meteos wants to stay with Cloud 9. What that entails is not clear.
Kotetsu534
Member
Week 9, day one. C9 vs. TDK.
With C9 all but guaranteed to miss playoffs after going 0-2 this week, this split's winners and runners-up are both likely to go to Worlds. The only way the runners-up wouldn't have enough points to qualify directly would be if Team Liquid came 3rd, in which case they'd go.
Qualification for the gauntlet tournament to decide the 3rd spot is going to be really interesting during playoffs. C9 may well end up making it in at the expense of a beaten quarter-finalist thanks to their runners-up finish in Spring.
Imperfected
Member
Actually, unless TSM comes in 1st place (and thus takes the automatic spot), there's very little chance of anyone else qualifying through on points. If TSM finishes at 5th or 6th then C9 can beat them with a 2nd or 3rd place finish (this is obviously very unlikely), or CLG can beat them with a 2nd place finish. If TSM finishes in 4th place or higher, then only C9 could beat them on points, and only by finishing in 2nd.
The more interesting situation actually occurs if TSM finishes 1st, because then there's actually a wide variety of circumstances where different teams can manage to qualify. At the moment, though, Dignitas, Impulse, Gravity, and Liquid basically need to finish 1st place to get one of those guaranteed slots; the Vegas odds are you're going to see all four of them competing in the NA Regional Qualifier, possibly with C9 taking one of those spots.
If I were to bet: TSM qualifies via 1st place automatic finish, CLG qualifies in the 2nd spot via points, and the Regional Qualifier comes down to C9, Impulse, Liquid, and Gravity. Dignitas is the odd man out. (Along with, obviously, NME/T8/TDK.) I could see Liquid or Impulse upsetting CLG to take the 2nd spot, though, and obviously if TSM fails to secure 1st it becomes whoever does take it, with TSM taking the 2nd slot via points.
As far as who would win Regionals out of those four teams if they played today... hell if I know. Those teams all show an amazing lack of consistency amongst one another, though obviously C9 looks unlikely to take a Best of 5 off any of them at the moment. I suppose I'd have to give it to Impulse, personally, though a strong argument could be made for Liquid or Gravity.
Kotetsu534
Member
True enough. I assume TSM are locked in to Worlds automatically, as they've always made it in the past, and it would take a massive throw for them not to get the most Championship Points with their nearest rivals already out of the running (C9). The possibilities multiply many times if they don't. But if you assume TSM will make it automatically, and that C9 won't pull off a miraculous turn around, there are relatively few scenarios where both Summer Split finalists don't go to Worlds - mostly where Team Liquid come 3rd, or where it's Dignitas, who hold 0 Championship Points currently, who come 2nd.
Edit: Ah, I see what you mean now. If TSM lose before the final, everything gets more complicated and there's a number of scenarios where a team could slip past them, or make the final and not beat their total. So in a way it's in the interests of all the chasing teams to try to make sure TSM doesn't get a playoff bye so their path is as hard as possible.
Edit: Ah, I see what you mean now. If TSM lose before the final, everything gets more complicated and there's a number of scenarios where a team could slip past them, or make the final and not beat their total. So in a way it's in the interests of all the chasing teams to try to make sure TSM doesn't get a playoff bye so their path is as hard as possible.
Is Hai an awful support or something? Why not just move him there and keep Meteos where he's been for so long?
No clue.
My guess would be that they are looking at a shotcalling jungler that is not Hai, since Hai still has wrist problems. I don't think Hai is a long term solution.
That said, this is only a rumor so far, we'll have to take it with a pinch of salt.
Stone Ocean
Member
The baits
There should be some NA team jumping at the opportunity.
Pokemon Trainer Red
Banned
If Freeze is so good, why is his team dead last?
Stone Ocean
Member
Because having a good ADC is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
Imperfected
Member
It's important to have TP in every lane so your whole team can die when your ADC does something stupid.
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
ADCs can't single handily carry 4 idiots.
Imperfected
Member
kaSing, you know what might not be a great idea? Using an ability that puts you on the wrong side of Alistar while he still has both Headbutt and Pulverize available. This is a lesson that every Yasuo player had to learn at some point, I guess it's Support Shen's turn to figure it out.
Stone Ocean
Member
How can Forgiven be younger than me and look older than Saintvicious
Kotetsu534
Member
That Fnatic/H2K game was probably the best demonstration possible of how far ahead Fnatic are of them. Not only did H2K get two kills on their top laner as a head start, they got Reignover to throw in his worst performance of the season, and Fnatic's first two efforts at making a comeback either backfired (top lane gank with Rengar's first ult) or completely whiffed and wasted resources (the bot lane dive with Huni's TP and Reignover's ult). Even their next attempts only lead to some chip damage on H2K's mid tower. So H2K had a ~4k lead at 21 minutes and map control, but couldn't leverage their advantage at all, were clean aced thanks to Loulex getting caught by Yellowstar, Febiven cutting off Ryu trying to help, and Huni not only landing an instant-reaction max range Equalizer, but quickly cutting off Hjarnan and Kasing, and were soon closed on.
I don't think Origen will be so toothless with a lead if they get one tomorrow, but Fnatic surely won't be handing out free kills before minions spawn again.
I don't think Origen will be so toothless with a lead if they get one tomorrow, but Fnatic surely won't be handing out free kills before minions spawn again.
