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League of Legends Championship Series: Season 5
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TSM already beat WE once .... TSM isn't exactly terrible.
Just avoid going Ge Tilt. Or picking a dumbass Yasuo pick in game 2.
Are the finals Bo5?
ya best of 5
Good. That's good.
I'm not exactly sure, but a lot of Korea's good
popular
Game 2 was shenanigans though.
Prototype Viktor
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wtf happened in that game 3? I didn't watch it and instead went to watch the games i missed of TSM vs YFW and see that WE won
well both samsung teams left and neither was too popular
kakao and rookie also left
flame would be the only popular and maybe not that great player that went to china i'd say tho maybe i'm forgetting someone
So did GE just didn't win the BO3.
WesternHeretic
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NA has a shot at winning something holy.....
of course we gonna lose...
So.. Did you watch?
I'd say that's alot, but I liked the Samsung teams so maybe that skews my opinion. By popular I probably just meant players that I followed and or won championships/splits recently hehe.
Piglet and Impact too.
Terbinator
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My take from this is it at least points towards an unpredictable Worlds group stage, at least.
EU clearly bottom tier though when it comes to teams that can do good abroad IMO - Origen need to shake it up pronto.
EU clearly bottom tier though when it comes to teams that can do good abroad IMO - Origen need to shake it up pronto.
I didn't watch -__-
Judging by the reactions in here I should have. I'll catch the VODs
Yeah, kind of. I don't know if WE is as far behind in score in the LPL as Coast is, but it would be something like MYM/Coast beating SSW.
edit: not that GET are proven world champions, but being first in OGN is something.
Kotetsu534
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They pretty much are where Coast or MYM are in relative terms. They even brought in two subs (Mystic and Xiye) who had never played on the main roster before. In fact, the group of 5 players that lined up against TSM on day one had reportedly never scrimmed together until they arrived in Katowice.
This Xiye seems to be one hell of a player. Spirit was just about solo carrying WE to the odd win in the LPL, so with a top notch mid (at least on Diana, Ahri and LB), and a real AD carry perhaps their level's jumped up a bit. Still, it's hard to find any argument with Monte that this result is the biggest upset in LoL history bar none. The probable best team in the world losing to a team fielding unproven subs with a 1-6-8 record in their domestic league, in a series which also ends Korea's unbroken streak of international tournament wins. The match wasn't even all that close for a 2-1 come back - GE were pretty fortunate to hang on in game 1 till WE got greedy at bot tower and were easily closed on in games 2 and 3. Wow.
And they still have to play TSM to win the tournament, who they lost to on day one!
The funny thing is that this roster may never play international LoL ever again - with their horrible domestic record they will almost certainly be going to the Chinese Summer Promotion tournament, where they'll play against several dangerous teams.
This Xiye seems to be one hell of a player. Spirit was just about solo carrying WE to the odd win in the LPL, so with a top notch mid (at least on Diana, Ahri and LB), and a real AD carry perhaps their level's jumped up a bit. Still, it's hard to find any argument with Monte that this result is the biggest upset in LoL history bar none. The probable best team in the world losing to a team fielding unproven subs with a 1-6-8 record in their domestic league, in a series which also ends Korea's unbroken streak of international tournament wins. The match wasn't even all that close for a 2-1 come back - GE were pretty fortunate to hang on in game 1 till WE got greedy at bot tower and were easily closed on in games 2 and 3. Wow.
And they still have to play TSM to win the tournament, who they lost to on day one!
The funny thing is that this roster may never play international LoL ever again - with their horrible domestic record they will almost certainly be going to the Chinese Summer Promotion tournament, where they'll play against several dangerous teams.
it's a lot of players, but i think samsung never had a big following. and i really like mata and dandy too <3
taipei assassins winning against frost in worlds 3 was pretty big
and moscow 5 beating frost and blaze in ipl5 (i think?) was pretty big too
it's just that monte doesn't watch if it isn't korea
Ghost is Bad
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gambit gaming at iem katowice. lost day 1. came back day 2 and beat the 2 best teams in the world.it's a lot of players, but i think samsung never had a big following. and i really like mata and dandy too <3
taipei assassins winning against frost in worlds 3 was pretty big
and moscow 5 beating frost and blaze in ipl5 (i think?) was pretty big too
it's just that monte doesn't watch if it isn't korea
Chinese teams have notoriously bad VISA issues too.
Korea's jungle pool seriously suffered with the loss of insec, kakao, dandy and spirit. This is why Lee and bengi can look ok in LCK.
RIP KOREA
Worlds is going to be interesting at least.
Kotetsu534
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it's a lot of players, but i think samsung never had a big following. and i really like mata and dandy too <3
taipei assassins winning against frost in worlds 3 was pretty big
and moscow 5 beating frost and blaze in ipl5 (i think?) was pretty big too
it's just that monte doesn't watch if it isn't korea
Neither are really comparable to this though. M5 were one of the best teams in the world when they won IEM Katowice, and Blaze and Frost weren't dominating in Korea like they were six months previously (Frost would go on to be stomped 3-0 by Najin Sword the very next month).
TPA were more of a complete unknown than anything else. There were several pro players (esp. Saint and Chauster) who were adamant they were one of the best teams in the world since they were so good in scrims. Very tough to judge a team with little meaningful competitive history. As soon as they kicked out MaKNooN's Najin Sword in the QFs 2-0 (probably a better team than Frost - see OGN Winter 2012) everyone knew they were a serious force. Then they went and beat M5 in the SFs. I suppose TPA > NJS in the S2WC QFs could be the second biggest series upset of all time though? I'd agree with that. I don't think the Stanley/Lilballz/Toyz/Bebe/Mistake roster gets nearly enough credit for the level they attained.
But this is nuts. GE Tigers are 20-2 in Korea, unbeaten in Bo3s. In the region which has won quite literally every international tournament to which it's sent a team to since IEM Katowice in January 2013 (let's ignore IEM Singapore). And they are the worst team in their region, who can barely win a single game, never mind a Bo3!
WesternHeretic
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7 hours from now.
Thanks
does anyone actually listen to froskurinn?
Froskruinn??
TharpDaddy
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I'm glad GE Tigers lost, it was annoying to constantly hear about how they're the best team in the world despite having never proved it. Monte kept saying how weak and far behind NA was this season, so i'm glad TSM is doing well. GE disrespecting WE in game 2 and then losing was beautiful. TSM seems to be really good at adapting in a series. I think it's likely TSM will lose game 1 but then do well after that, but either way I think it will be a fun bo5.
An analyst who focuses on China
An analyst who focuses on China
I think it also depends on when other finals finish ... like the starcraft final etc.
WesternHeretic
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Well starcraft was delayed because of CS. So as usual they are behind schedule.
Yeah. LoL Finals are after SC2 .... so I hope this Zest guy wins shortly.
edit : well shit. game 4 .... holy shit is SC2 pro games so boring to watch ....
Kotetsu534
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On the plus side with ESL proving incapable of organising a finals day I'll be able to watch the final from the start despite not getting in from work till 80 minutes after the scheduled start time.
Wonder how TSM will approach pick/ban here. They could focus on Aluka, who's been excellent on Maokai and Sion but has a reputation for being very weak, or focus on Spirit since he's WE's most proven player (I have to imagine he'll never get Rek'Sai this series), or focus on Xiye. Maybe they'll try to take Janna away from YuZhe.
Wonder how TSM will approach pick/ban here. They could focus on Aluka, who's been excellent on Maokai and Sion but has a reputation for being very weak, or focus on Spirit since he's WE's most proven player (I have to imagine he'll never get Rek'Sai this series), or focus on Xiye. Maybe they'll try to take Janna away from YuZhe.
rek sai will be banned early until something more problematic shows up during the series
i dont think it will get through at all tho
it's also probably not meaningful to target jungle bans since santorin doesn't seem like he has that many picks (that rammus tease yesterday tho?)
they should just ban for comps instead of target I think
i dont think it will get through at all tho
it's also probably not meaningful to target jungle bans since santorin doesn't seem like he has that many picks (that rammus tease yesterday tho?)
they should just ban for comps instead of target I think
WesternHeretic
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Bro you watch baseball...
I'm just saying.
Starcraft is boring though but C'mon you watch baseball!
The stream starts in 5 minutes!