It takes a little bit of getting used to but it really does up your action/reaction time significantly, especially for skillshots.
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It takes a little bit of getting used to but it really does up your action/reaction time significantly, especially for skillshots.
Vincent Alexander
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Anyone playing any League tonight? Would love to play the new stuff but want to play with a group if I can.
killatopak
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45% cdr is really damn good on resourceless champs.
Orochinagis
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I got a bug on the last three masteries on Utility, the description window blinks like crazy and dont allow me to select one of them
Hemi-PoweredDrone
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I saw on reddit that the way to get around the blinking thing is to use your scroll wheel to level up the mastery.
Had a REALLY weird bug earlier.
I was Sona with the speed Boots + Alacrity. I was moving to mid lane as we were at the point where teamfights break out. But I noticed that mid was pushed in a bit, and everyone was moving bot. So I right-clicked bot on the map, and then hovered my camera over to see that section.
Everyone was moving around, and some enemies started to show up around river. About fifteen seconds later, a fight broke out. Now, this was horrible map awareness on my part for sure, but it's not something you really expect to happen: I was still in base, by our Nexus Turrets. I thought my right-click didn't go through!
So I clicked it again, and paid attention to the fight again by hovering the map over. Pressed E to get my speed boost, so I should have been where the fight had moved to in about ten seconds tops. Said time goes by, and I was.... still by the Nexus Turrets. I held Space Bar to watch what the * was happening, and it turns out I somehow landed in a loop. Sona would move to just about mid-lane's entrance, and then warp back to right beside the Nexus. I watched this happen four times straight in the span of around ten seconds.
It was really weird man. There wasn't even a broken animation. Just... you're here, now you're there. Repeat.
I was Sona with the speed Boots + Alacrity. I was moving to mid lane as we were at the point where teamfights break out. But I noticed that mid was pushed in a bit, and everyone was moving bot. So I right-clicked bot on the map, and then hovered my camera over to see that section.
Everyone was moving around, and some enemies started to show up around river. About fifteen seconds later, a fight broke out. Now, this was horrible map awareness on my part for sure, but it's not something you really expect to happen: I was still in base, by our Nexus Turrets. I thought my right-click didn't go through!
So I clicked it again, and paid attention to the fight again by hovering the map over. Pressed E to get my speed boost, so I should have been where the fight had moved to in about ten seconds tops. Said time goes by, and I was.... still by the Nexus Turrets. I held Space Bar to watch what the * was happening, and it turns out I somehow landed in a loop. Sona would move to just about mid-lane's entrance, and then warp back to right beside the Nexus. I watched this happen four times straight in the span of around ten seconds.
It was really weird man. There wasn't even a broken animation. Just... you're here, now you're there. Repeat.
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So base on my research notes:
Also, mobility champs might be the best right now. Need to try Ahri later.
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Nasus is still top dog.Also, mobility champs might be the best right now. Need to try Ahri later.
Vincent Alexander
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I was trying to figure out if I should take that as a mid champion just to add mobility jumping between lanes.
Hemi-PoweredDrone
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It's fantastic on Quinn mid. Just dump as much mobility on her as you can.
i would. really useful if you're helping other lanes or chasing a long straggler
i've been seeing a couple of jungler Graves
Some masteries I'm using:
Here's what Phreak is doing: http://imgur.com/a/kbKWH
- Pick what keystone you want first. 18 points will be put in that tree with 12 or 6/6 in the others.
- Most carry, fighter and mage trees will be 18/12/0 or 12/18/0. Dangerous Game and Merciless is too good to pass up compared to the weaker equivalent Resolve masteries.
- Ferocity tree should almost never be used by supports, you are gated hard by Double-Edged sword and Feast which aren't good for them.
- The Ferocity keystones aren't that great for bruisers and juggernauts so you might be better off going 12/0/18 or 6/6/12
- If you're going support you want Bandit, and then Bond of Stone if you're a tank, and Windspeaker's Blessing if you're a shielder/healer.
Here's what Phreak is doing: http://imgur.com/a/kbKWH
- Pick what keystone you want first. 18 points will be put in that tree with 12 or 6/6 in the others.
- Most carry, fighter and mage trees will be 18/12/0 or 12/18/0. Dangerous Game and Merciless is too good to pass up compared to the weaker equivalent Resolve masteries.
- Ferocity tree should almost never be used by supports, you are gated hard by Double-Edged sword and Feast which aren't good for them.
- The Ferocity keystones aren't that great for bruisers and juggernauts so you might be better off going 12/0/18 or 6/6/12
- If you're going support you want Bandit, and then Bond of Stone if you're a tank, and Windspeaker's Blessing if you're a shielder/healer.
Neutrality
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There should be a warning for people who don't have masteries, why can they que for ranked games.
Such a waste of time.
Such a waste of time.
Hemi-PoweredDrone
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I'm trying out Cowsep's AP On Hit Yi. It's actually pretty strong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1ZG4XH8hD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1ZG4XH8hD8
Ghost is Bad
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hah
wait until u see the cost of brutalizer
wait until u see the cost of brutalizer
And guess what, it's still an A tier gold efficiency item
Ghost is Bad
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id rather have runaans :^)
Yeah they need to nerf Athenes a little tbh
played three games, opinions so far, might change with more games in, but i just didn't wanna play adc funland anymore today:
- dark seal seems like a noob trap. worse stats than dorans and too risky for not that much benefit. the only champion that builds mejais is lux anyways, and she needs the early regen so i'd say it's pretty bad as a starting item and if you can't buy mejais straight up when you back then you're probably not gonna buy mejais anyways
- morellos seems super bad now cos the build path is awful compared to athenes and it's so expensive that you might as well buy athenes for that price. this nerfs all morello champions like ahri and leblanc
- not having wards felt super prohibitive when i got red trinket, so i think as a mid ppl should probably just get yellow trinket. if there's a camp you wanna camp just buy a pink ward
- i'd like to say not having to buy wards makes it feel like i have more money but everything's so expensive that i kind of feel like i have less money than before
- except when i'm playing viktor, since his passive is untouched. for about 3700k (core+cdr boots) you're ahead everyone else that's catching up to the nerfs. plus you can get an early abyssal since that one is actually cheaper.
- poke seems pretty op thanks to potions being so expensive. i have yet to try starting with the new flask so that might be it, but basically if you rely on potions to survive poke then you're fucked. i went leblanc and ahri against ezreal and velkoz and got shit on. then figured i'd try poke myself and got viktor into katarina and i absolutely demolished her. gotta try the new flask to be sure, but seems like if you go dorans on dorans (or worse, dark seal on dorans) vs poke you're always gonna lose.
- velkoz had 45% cdr and felt very unfun to play against. i'm not sure if 45% cdr is something that should be in the game
- turrets feel too weak. our top laner made a play bot, so lucian took down two turrets straight. i think it's a good move to remove the armor/mr stuff and replace it with health, but seems to be way too little health.
- didn't even notice the fancy keystone masteries. i guess they're doing something but eh.
- i like the quicker gametimes. i think part of it is thanks to turrets being super weak so you get one good push and you take half their base, but i think with some balance around it can be pretty decent
- dark seal seems like a noob trap. worse stats than dorans and too risky for not that much benefit. the only champion that builds mejais is lux anyways, and she needs the early regen so i'd say it's pretty bad as a starting item and if you can't buy mejais straight up when you back then you're probably not gonna buy mejais anyways
- morellos seems super bad now cos the build path is awful compared to athenes and it's so expensive that you might as well buy athenes for that price. this nerfs all morello champions like ahri and leblanc
- not having wards felt super prohibitive when i got red trinket, so i think as a mid ppl should probably just get yellow trinket. if there's a camp you wanna camp just buy a pink ward
- i'd like to say not having to buy wards makes it feel like i have more money but everything's so expensive that i kind of feel like i have less money than before
- except when i'm playing viktor, since his passive is untouched. for about 3700k (core+cdr boots) you're ahead everyone else that's catching up to the nerfs. plus you can get an early abyssal since that one is actually cheaper.
- poke seems pretty op thanks to potions being so expensive. i have yet to try starting with the new flask so that might be it, but basically if you rely on potions to survive poke then you're fucked. i went leblanc and ahri against ezreal and velkoz and got shit on. then figured i'd try poke myself and got viktor into katarina and i absolutely demolished her. gotta try the new flask to be sure, but seems like if you go dorans on dorans (or worse, dark seal on dorans) vs poke you're always gonna lose.
- velkoz had 45% cdr and felt very unfun to play against. i'm not sure if 45% cdr is something that should be in the game
- turrets feel too weak. our top laner made a play bot, so lucian took down two turrets straight. i think it's a good move to remove the armor/mr stuff and replace it with health, but seems to be way too little health.
- didn't even notice the fancy keystone masteries. i guess they're doing something but eh.
- i like the quicker gametimes. i think part of it is thanks to turrets being super weak so you get one good push and you take half their base, but i think with some balance around it can be pretty decent
she does pretty ok across all elos and i think the season changes benefit her quite a lot. i find her kind of boring tho. why don't play nami or zyra if you like mage supports. nami's more defensive/supporty, while zyra is like killstealing with tentacles
A fair point. Maybe I'm writing it off too early.
yeah i think so too
i played leblanc with the movement speed on burst keystone but since you tend to just jump around with her i couldn't really tell
and the deathfire mastery is i dunno, more damage
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueofle...5_champions_with_the_most_dedicated_summoner/
In case anyone shares my bizarre fascination with most dedicated summoners. I think my 50ish ekko games this season is my most ever with a single champ so much respect to these guys
In case anyone shares my bizarre fascination with most dedicated summoners. I think my 50ish ekko games this season is my most ever with a single champ so much respect to these guys
You should be using thunderlord's on lb imo
Keep playing the free champs til you find someone you really like. Morg is good. I played her a lot last season.
Wolf Akela
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I spammed support Morgana to Diamond with 75% win rate so yes she holds up.
The buff to Spellthief this season makes her better.
It's not a huge noob trap
You don't even need kills for it to be as gold efficient as dorans
The item equals dorans in terms of gold value of stats after 3 pots and has bonus synergy with the missing mana mastery
Imo, fighting mids shouldn't take dark seal, instead, mages who can wait until a team fight and grab some stacks will make the item super efficient
This is cos the lack of raw hp means you need to make up the value through frequent trades + pots
That kind of pattern just doesn't suit an an in assassin
Sr Kitsune
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I'm re-doing my runes. I used to run hybrid pen marks for mages. Still worth it, or should I change it for Magic Pen? (My logic behind hybrid pen, is too make it easier to last hit, and because I like to harass with AA when my enemy tries to farm)
Yeah, every game Graves was in was won by the team with him. Negated only by Yasuo, who's laughably worse with ultra cheap 100% crits.
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Infinity edge + static shiv = fuck everyone else.
Peanut Butter
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It's pretty sad that the highlight of my 7 game losing streak is a game where the enemy team actually destroyed my nexus and my team didn't have to surrender in 20-24 minutes.
Royal Guacamole
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Could Yasuo always stack Guinsoo's by Q'ing in the air?
Probably yeah.
auto attacking ad have an amazing late game high tho
CDR ad will be held back by LW change
holy shit
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aatrox is back boys
yeah, i was just trying out stuff i guess
i like ms buffs
but i'm not gonna play leblanc for a while, basically any morellos champion feels bad right now
i don't think anyone will take it
it's just bad laning stats
Vincent Alexander
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So....6 losses in a row tonight. Jesus fuck. This new patch makes it damn hard to come back if the enemy team is ahead.
Question: what is your jungle philosophy on a lane that is losing. I used to think if a lane was getting dominated, you focus on other lanes that have a chance to push them ahead. However, just played a game with an Olaf who gave up 15 deaths by end. 0 kills. Top lane. At 3 deaths, I told our jungle he needs to get up there before top lane tilts and collapses. He didn't, and top lane imploded. I'm a little pissy that the top lane was ignored, especially since mid was destroying and bot (me) was doing ok holding off. Curious where you guys stand. In the end, our top lane doomed us.
Question: what is your jungle philosophy on a lane that is losing. I used to think if a lane was getting dominated, you focus on other lanes that have a chance to push them ahead. However, just played a game with an Olaf who gave up 15 deaths by end. 0 kills. Top lane. At 3 deaths, I told our jungle he needs to get up there before top lane tilts and collapses. He didn't, and top lane imploded. I'm a little pissy that the top lane was ignored, especially since mid was destroying and bot (me) was doing ok holding off. Curious where you guys stand. In the end, our top lane doomed us.
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