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League of Legends |OT10| Botlane Was A Mistake, It's Nothing But Thresh
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Stone Ocean
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Anivia won't give a fuck about nerfs until they mess with raw numbers like mana costs and damage
FTFY
Ghost is Bad
Banned
i have no skin on lulu but 300 games on her
am i a main or no
am i a main or no
PhillipCostigan
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reddit is killing my brain
we know. we'll all miss nukeduck on roccat
Bot games don't count
Coolio. Matches on more days of the week now?
Mister Negative
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dragon trainer lulu is still pretty bad, they need to rework the face to make it look like the splash
So, na gonna get more games? ouch.
I get that nalcs is more popular and that's why they had saturday/sunday already but I'd still expect the same number of games.
eu both having games on thursdays/fridays and getting less games might hurt. If there's already gonna be overlapping streams since NA plays on fridays why not get overlapping streams on saturday as well.
WesternHeretic
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The EU salt on reddit is delicious.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
rip roccat
Haha that sounds awesome. Keen to get back into Jinx's play style.
Let's not pretend that NA has better mid tier teams.
I'm sure, but she'll probably be a lot less forgiving to play, which is fine for strong champs I spose
TheBritishBear
Banned
Then the smite becomes such an attractive option for laners and we'll be back to the same problem similar to Cinderhulk top and Runeglaive Mid.
there'll be some overlapping, but it's still thursday through sunday
yeah, the reasoning is pretty shakey but tbh i don't mind so much. bo3s are serious time commitments so i'm fine with bo2s, it just feels weird that it's different across regions
i wouldn't say a lot, her break range on her ult is still 1000 range, so it's not gonna change that much
What, fuck no? What are you on about? Why in the world would a laner want Smite with its sustain passives that only work when damaging monsters?
The reason Cinderhulk and Runeglaive made appearances in the solo lanes is because those items were overpowered as fuck. Cinderhulk used to deal way more damage and provide much more %bonus health than at present and Runeglaive had an AoE proc that could be abused by spammy mids, particularly AP Ezreal. Once those items were brought in line they disappeared from the solo lanes with no meaningful changes to Smite.
Jungle items do a poor job of fixing a problem that no longer exists.
Trickster
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Why do people in LoL use the term main? I never see people in the dota 2 community do it, and it doesn't make sense to me to have a "main" in a game like this where it's hard to always select the same character becaues of team compositions.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
rito playtesting :^)
There are tons of one trick ponies in solo q from bronze to challenger. Comps are very flexible and there are no unwinnable matchups in the game. Some people just enjoy one champ vastly more than the rest and would rather only play them.
Idk anything about dota but from my understanding there are true hard counters where that doesn't really exist in league. Champion knowledge and skill can more often than not trump a bad matchup
Is BO2 worse than BO3? I prefer BO2, to be honest.
More game experience?
More screen time?
NA basically plays 50% more games and gets 50% more screen time
EU is just being treated like a b-league at this point with their shitty thursday/friday timing and less games
cool
Hasphat'sAnts
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O You'd be surprised.
PhillipCostigan
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please
both regions decided on formats for their own region. Esports wants to test both out. Weekend slot makes sense for Bo3 cos there are more games
people have been asking for bo2/bo3 for ages. even in the Asian leagues it's different regionally.
It's not about making EU into a b-tier league or whatever other narrative people want to come up with that is almost 100% incorrect
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Why dont they say fuck it and remove the surrender button too?
that'd suck cos as a mid you'd have to walk all around the blue pit to grab the rune/relic/whatever
it'd also make it weird for steals. like say i lux ult ur blue buff and steal it, do i have to then go walk over to ur blue buff to get it lol?
tho i dunno how that works with current rift herald either, i'd imagine you automatically get the buff if you kill it and no one else is around you?
league doesn't have much of a x champion beats y so even if there's some bad matchups you can still pick whatever you want and do ok at other stages in the game
i also think people call themselves mains cos they like to identify themselves with their favorite champion. so i'd call myself an ori main even tho i play just as many viktor and lebonk games
Wolf Akela
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Eww they changed the colors of player names in the lobby.
Right, you say EU OPs chose Bo2 but that Bo3 makes sense on a weekend. EU LCS has always been on a weekday. Could the EU OPs team even decide to make it Bo3?
Was Bo3 even a "choice" the EU OPs team could make?
What reasoning did the EU OPs team have? Are they hamstrung by poor scheduled day and their lower resourcing?
Did the EU OPs team consult teams? Why would EU teams want even less screentime compared to NA teams? EU is already a sponsorship crapshoot compared to NA
Did they consult the EU viewership? Do EU viewers want to see less EU games compared to NA games? Or did they consult global viewership and ask if NA+EU wanted to see more NA games?
OR perhaps, lets say the EU OPs team really chose to go for Bo2. This PR is terrible at communicating that. The justification for Bo2 is beacuse "we do that in soccer (imeanfootballlol). Did the direct marketing team honestly think people would be OK with it such that they can just joke around? I dont know why the EU OPs team chose to do this. They're just kidding around in this PR. What a mess
Oh and seriously? If you're just 'playtesting'? it's more scientifically sound to subject both NA and EU to bo3 and bo2. So why not just do that? weeks 1-5 are a bo2, and weeks 5-10 are bo3 since apparently we need time to ramp up
Ghost is Bad
Banned
if im gonna be honest the whole round robin formats pretty dumb for me
if anything there should have been way more tournaments instead of a set circuit which breeds bad habits and complacency within regions (hint, hint china.)
if anything there should have been way more tournaments instead of a set circuit which breeds bad habits and complacency within regions (hint, hint china.)
Ghost is Bad
Banned
woolite: the eu zuna
Ghost is Bad
Banned
dont u remember roccat woolite
the guy who stood mid while recalling and died
the guy who stood mid while recalling and died
PhillipCostigan
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what's the point of having a conversation of you when you're letting kneejerk reactions cloud any reasonable thought. Nobody is going to convince you otherwise. You're even insinuating conspiracy theories on NA competitive favouritism.
If you guys want me to have a dialogue with you on this stuff in any form you need to chill, otherwise I'll go back to lurking like I did in the first few weeks after I joined. You're not facilitating any discussion at all.
its not about what is the best format
it's the fact that theres no transparency
shitty PR with shitty "football has ties so its ok//america doesnt understand ties" reasoning (hint: football doesn't really have ties)
People will need to know why NA gets more viewtime, gets a better timeslot
Do I mention competitive favourtism?
We don't know the answer to any of this + there is a contradiction that EU OPs makes the choice and yet objectively, Bo3 is more suited to weekends
I mentioned competitive favourtism in the first point - because that's what it could really look like given the lack of clarity/communication over everything
Mostmanlyman
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Yeah the league pro play is kinda weird, I much prefer cs go way of doing it.
there's no mystery boko, na gets more views so that's why they're on the weekend. that's probably some sort of a self fulfilling prophecy but na got the personalities and those carry eyeballs in a way that europe doesn't, at least not as much
the bo2s vs bo3s is weird, i remember players like lemonnation, xpecial and aphromoo saying they'd prefer bo2s, so i have no idea why they went this way. the whole soccer thing is absolutely hilarious but in both cases it's an upgrade from before so i don't worry much
best thing about this whole thing is the two-streams so i don't have to watch boring teams like tsm play
the bo2s vs bo3s is weird, i remember players like lemonnation, xpecial and aphromoo saying they'd prefer bo2s, so i have no idea why they went this way. the whole soccer thing is absolutely hilarious but in both cases it's an upgrade from before so i don't worry much
best thing about this whole thing is the two-streams so i don't have to watch boring teams like tsm play
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