FutureZombie
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Don't sleep on Galio. He can lane anywhere and his ult is devastating.
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Don't sleep on Galio. He can lane anywhere and his ult is devastating.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Leona's already one of the four best supports right now, she doesn't need a buff. The amount of kill potential in a Leona Graves/Trist/Vayne lane is almost like a double bruiser lane.
Jazzy Network
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So she's what? Number 4 of the only 5 viable supports in the game?
Which champions are those 5? I'm usually playing with a friend who picks AD carry a lot so I'd like to know which supports I should be playing.
In solo lane? How? Most APs has 6+ second cooldowns and his Q is 3s, so he can harass them really hard and has hp sustain even without potions. Also if has charged passive, he can taunt AP and with Q deal really high burst damage.
imho Janna > Alistar > Soraka = Sona > Leona -> Taric
Hasphat'sAnts
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Janna, Alistar, Nunu, Leona.
Plenty of versatility, plenty of team fight presence.
Comes down to the lane comp. She's in a good place right now because she does the things she does so well.
And there are way more than just 5 viable supports.
New champ sneak peak: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/champion-sneak-peek-hecarim-shadow-war
Jazzy Network
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Sona, Janna, Alistar, Leona, Taric, Lulu, Soraka, Lux is a stretch. 8. Wouldn't call that way more.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Nunu? Galio? Nunu Kogmaw is fucking amazing.
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OMG I've never been one to complain, but...
Usually when Riot posts a warning it's not a big deal, but OMG that last game was CRAZY.
Usually when Riot posts a warning it's not a big deal, but OMG that last game was CRAZY.
Jazzy Network
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I'll give you Nunu. Er I've never seen good support Galios.
Hasphat'sAnts
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TSM ran support Galio a couple of times. Viable support because of his kit: Slow/Shield and MR boost/Speed buff/Hard CC.
Wolf Akela
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A centaur with a lance huh.
Want.
Actually, I want more champs that are neither human nor yordle. More monster champs plox.
Jazzy Network
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Well if someone is good with him I can understand, but that goes for any champ. He's not good enough of a support that most people can do well with.
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hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Probably why you see so many Sona/Soraka supports, since you can literally faceroll your way to victory.
Jazzy Network
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No kidding. But it's like saying yea I am a good jungle Rumble or something. If you're good then yea more power to you, it doesn't remove the fact that it's not ideal.
Blitzcrank can also be used support, you need to practice with him a little bit but he's similar to Alistar. I really only play support, and as far as sheer utility you really can't beat Janna. The ult alone is such a game changer. Learn her first if you haven't already, and then learn the situational ones.
Jazzy Network
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Well AD Janna is annoying as fuck. Just found that out.
Taric last? I don't think we can be friends. I reckon taric equals alistar in lane.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Blitzcrank's ult makes him impossible to lane with an AD carry post-6. He'd be an awesome roamer if you have a tankier AD carry bot like Graves or Urgot.
The problem with Taric is that his skills don't scale particularly well after laning phase. He's adequate at everything, but depending on the team comp, there's always a better option. Want lots of CC to pick off squishy opponents or peel off your AD carry? Janna, Alistar, Leona. Lots of poke on your team, so you want to exploit that? Nunu. Want to have really good sustain in a team fight? Soraka/Sona.
Agree, my man. Here's hoping he isn't just a basic melee bruiser, LoL has enough of them already. Something like a ranged really mobile centaur-ranger/archer with a bit of extra stamina would be more interesting. But knowing Riot, I bet he'll be like Sejuani with a new skin and max. one "signature" ability.
lazorexplosion
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Holy shit that was the worst fucking game. Everyone, at every instant just wanted to split up and push the lanes and farm the jungle and everyone on the enemy team just wanted to do the same thing. Push lane up, push lane back, push lane up, push lane back. No matter what. Team gets a kill? Everyone split up and push lanes and farm the jungle until they respawn. Team gets baron? EVERYONE SPLIT UP AND PUSH LANES AND FARM THE JUNGLE UNTIL IT WEARS OFF.
After 50 minutes there was only one inner turret down. Not even base turrets. I had to quit before the tedium killed me, and I consider it a service to everyone because they could be trapped in farming limbo for ever otherwise.
After 50 minutes there was only one inner turret down. Not even base turrets. I had to quit before the tedium killed me, and I consider it a service to everyone because they could be trapped in farming limbo for ever otherwise.
lazorexplosion
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Reading comprehension much?
Taric's R and Aura is enough for me late game. I play taric as a kamikaze tank anyway. I play him with tank runes usually have 3k health end game with 150+ armour and mr.
I Just hope the Robotic model we saw last week was an alternative skin... it was really ugly given my tastes
Wolf Akela
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I can see the skills now:
Q: A shield bash or a trample move that does some form of CC. Probably knockup.
W: Some kind of damage reduction shield.
E: A warcry that buffs you and nearby allies.
R: Charge ability that skewers and pushes one or more targets. Stuns them and deals bonus damage if you hit a wall like Vayne's Condemn.
Passive: Dunno... maybe take less damage from sources in front of you.
Then everyone wouldn't care about his ratios because he'll be another metagolem. Or maybe support.
That would almost be the most boring skillset I could imagine him having. No originality or interesting mechanics whatsoever. That is also the reason I fear the worst, knowing Riot and some of the decisions they've made on champion skills.
Because you're hornsyla rex said:
My charging evil scythe horseback lifesteal tanky champ that wants to get into the fray /backseat game designer
also a good candidate for zekes!
Role wise he is a lifesteal tank like WW however with less deadly cc, but his team fight damage should be a lot higher with his AOE damage. Since he depends on hitting as many targets as possible for survivability theres less of the "rush straight at the AD carry" going on and might give the enemy team interesting positional requirements.
No I mean the lifesteal =p
His passive doesn't give him lifesteal, it increases his current lifesteal by a % amount.
In other news, FeralPony (who? I dunno.) is the designer responsible for Hecarim.
EDIT: FeralPony Wiki. Designer of Fizz, Graves and Rumble. Rumble is cool and all, but Graves can eat a big one. Fizz I'm still not sure about.
His passive doesn't give him lifesteal, it increases his current lifesteal by a % amount.
In other news, FeralPony (who? I dunno.) is the designer responsible for Hecarim.
EDIT: FeralPony Wiki. Designer of Fizz, Graves and Rumble. Rumble is cool and all, but Graves can eat a big one. Fizz I'm still not sure about.
lazorexplosion
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Soooooo 320-420 damage 1.6 AS 48% crit ~180 AR ~150 MR 4000 health Dr Mundo carrying your shit 14/4/16. Feels good man.
About the best advice you can give to an AD carry starting out.
I tend to get 2 points in the extra dmg to minions on my ap characters to make last hitting easier. You won't always have the mana early game to spam and clear creep waves.
Taric am cry. :'(
You said "I had to quit before the tedium killed me, and I consider it a service to everyone because they could be trapped in farming limbo for ever otherwise."
I understand that you quit because you were frustrated/bored, but come on, if you it gets that bad after 50 minutes, imagine how a 65 minute game would be.
Quitting or going afk because of being annoyed is NEVER acceptable in my opinion. It's different if your house is on fire or something, but isn't this at least the second time in this thread you have posted about doing something like this?
Hugh Buelow
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In Sejuani's patch:
He also got played in a tournament, which helped increase his popularity.
Wolf Akela
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Finally. ;_;
Last defeat... man, me and Kayle were stomping the lane really hard but Karma hyperfed Ahri who snowballed out of control.
Last defeat... man, me and Kayle were stomping the lane really hard but Karma hyperfed Ahri who snowballed out of control.
SouthernDragon
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How strong is Wukong? Too stronk.
SouthernDragon
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Electrastar too star (am I doing it right)?
*edit* I was so confused by some of those items and then I realized it was dominion. Electrastar, please teach me how to kill people with rammus on dominion!
Thornmail + Sunfire + Defensive Curl = STOP HITTING YOURSELF STOP HITTING YOURSELF STOP HITTING YOURSELF
XeroSauce
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Yea dude, games can go from 45 minutes to fucking an hour and a half if it's slow enough. But that's the kind of dedication you have to make when starting a game, otherwise you are being an arse to your teammates and potentially wasting the entire game's time for them as well as you.
If your team is insistent on farming, push mid when you can and try your best to get your teammates to follow with pings and text etc. Some people just don't know when to group up.
I really need to figure out how this works, since there was a whole bunch of fuss about how thornmail is a noob trap and a horrible item, and a horrible item on rammus, and rammus shield reduces the damage that thornmail returns to the enemy. I've also heard that sunfire cape does so little damage it might not be worth it etc.
And then someone is like, no, rammus shield actually DOESN'T reduce the damage that thornmail returns to the enemy. So I'm really confused about that, and whether additional armor (sunfire) reduces the amount done to the enemy, and whether having warmogs + thornmail would return more damage than sunfire + thornmail, since they would be doing more damage but you'd be able to survive it with more HP...
People have really strong opinions, especially where thornmail and rammus are involved. =(
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