Rofl what is this? What team is relevant if CLG isn't? TSM, CLG, CLGeu, M5, Dig are the top 5 in the rest of the world, what else is left?
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Rofl what is this? What team is relevant if CLG isn't? TSM, CLG, CLGeu, M5, Dig are the top 5 in the rest of the world, what else is left?
Well, they haven't beaten -me-.
Don't just leave us hanging, what happened?!
Losing by 15k gold at the 25/30 minute mark to Korean B teams is just CLG being their junky selves. Sometimes they'll have good games and lucky runs but most of the time they operate poorly as a team and are held back by limited champion sets.
I don't mean to say Korean teams are bad, but they haven't proven anything today. They still have a lot to prove in global tournaments on a game that has been dominated by EU and NA teams for the last year. I don't think M5 is a top team either, they just broke the new meta and lucked out. They're a bunch of scumbags anyways so it's probably for the best. They got crushed by Absolute Legends today.
She did bad but her team carried her and won every lane and the game. They had a TF pick mid that made up for the lack of map presence she had. Riven on my team got crushed in her lane even though I ganked it multiple times and picked her up kills. There was an Ashe on my team who built Zeal first to "run away from Fizz", so she hit for nothing and the game just slowly went to the enemy team with map control.
Dubbedinenglish
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How are people building Hecarim? I've trying early Trinity but it is such a big item I'm not doing much damage early-mid.
Beyond trinity it's:
Wit's end
Ionic Spark
BT
Late game he becomes a God getting there is the problem.
Beyond trinity it's:
Wit's end
Ionic Spark
BT
Late game he becomes a God getting there is the problem.
I got rape by a guy using BT, 2 PD, while playing as urgot on dom.
I think I have seen two pretty successful vayne's on my teams lately. One had IE in under 15 minutes. The other had three BT and an IE and got a pentakill. Might have been partly a cleanup kill but it was still nice. Then they spammed chat about the pentakill, promptly got instagibbed a time or two, and we nearly lost the game anyway. =P
DIGITAL SALES SOLD OUT WTF
Wolf Akela
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This gonna be good.
edit: the results. Feels bad man.
We threw away an amazing early game with Lee getting fed 12/0. He had Merc Treads and Triforce by 12 mins FFS.
We somehow kept losing every teamfight after mid game.
edit: the results. Feels bad man.
We threw away an amazing early game with Lee getting fed 12/0. He had Merc Treads and Triforce by 12 mins FFS.
We somehow kept losing every teamfight after mid game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhPAi0xYT-Y
My first ever penta, debated posting it for a while, but eh, why not. You can all enjoy my poor editing skills!
My first ever penta, debated posting it for a while, but eh, why not. You can all enjoy my poor editing skills!
Lol. That was pretty funny. They just came at you one after another. That ghost Kog tore them up.
This gonna be good.
edit: the results. Feels bad man.
We threw away an amazing early game with Lee getting fed 12/0. We somehow kept losing every teamfight after mid game.
might be because lee sin isnt the strongest late game?
I usually try to feed the lanes instead of taking kills myself
Hasphat'sAnts
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Apparently M5 still haven't learned their lesson.
Yeah wouldn't have done it without that Kog! Though at the time I kind of didn't believe what was happening, they way they just walked at me.
My team's been working on this: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2065842
Niiiiice, Rayven.
Now I can play LoL even less and just spec all day.
EDIT: The time skipping thing is sorely needed in DOTA2 and I'm glad to see it here. However I noticed the omission of a player perspective camera view. Is that planned for the future or is it impossible with the way LoL is set up? I think player perspective is one of the best tools for learning from a good player.
Now I can play LoL even less and just spec all day.
EDIT: The time skipping thing is sorely needed in DOTA2 and I'm glad to see it here. However I noticed the omission of a player perspective camera view. Is that planned for the future or is it impossible with the way LoL is set up? I think player perspective is one of the best tools for learning from a good player.
What do you like about player perspective? When has it been useful for you?
We have a Rioter here? That's awesome
The spectator mode sounds fantastic. I need to add more friends in LoL though haha.
SafeinSound
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Wait....spectator mode still isn't in the game? Jesus Christ how long has it been in development for? I just started playing again after taking off for four months. I thought it was in the game.
It's been in a very limited form (2 spectators only, and only allowed to connect when creating the game) since quite some time, but now it's finally in a usable form for everyone.
It's pretty much my default camera option when I spec DOTA2 games and SC2 games (back when I still played).
The main point of it for me is to be able to see how a player is using his camera, where he's looking, how he's managing his creeps (not applicable to LoL obviously) and how he's controlling his champion's movement. Basically, I use it to learn to emulate what better players are doing on a deeper level than just item builds and skill builds.
SafeinSound
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That's good to hear.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
I like seeing players clicks in DOTA2, especially ones much better than I am.
For LoL, I'll just like seeing my friends mess up and make fun of them for it while I'm waiting for them to finish up so we can queue together.
For LoL, I'll just like seeing my friends mess up and make fun of them for it while I'm waiting for them to finish up so we can queue together.
Hugh Buelow
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I can second this. It's why I enjoy watching streams so much. You can learn a lot from a player by spending some time in his shoes. Things like how they move the camera and where they are clicking is a big part of that.
spec mode looks great
plz read: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/sv0s0/some_simple_jungler_etiquette/
plz read: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/sv0s0/some_simple_jungler_etiquette/
Avinexus
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That guy makes it out to be more huge than it is. I don't watch sports because I like the different camera angles/production quality, I watch it because I like the sport. It will definitely help with production quality for the tournament organizers though.
SephirothRK
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Wow, can't wait for it. Does Dota2 have the rewind/slow down feature?
I wonder if they can have the replays during the down time between matches.
I wonder if they can have the replays during the down time between matches.
There's no rewind in Dota 2. Once something has happened there is no way to go back because the replay system is based on very old/weird stuff.
FallingEdge
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I know this is a long way out, but I can't wait until we can spectate any match instead of a selected few. Would like to watch a few games of my friends while I'm just chilling but since they aren't streaming, I cannot do that.
SouthernDragon
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Awesome!
Like others have stated, knowing what pro-players visually focus on and how they manage their screen real estate is something that is invaluable and can't be conveyed through builds, skill orders, rune/mastery setups, ect.
Finally, I dunno if you guys worked on it specifically, but I'm LOVING the new damage output counters. Seeing what's magic and what's physical gives me a much better idea of my actual damage output.
Your team is awesome. I spend far more time watching matches than I do playing them.
Ghosting is less of an issue in tournament play when everyone is watching the players.
That wasn't my team, but I'll let them know you like the feature
Color-coded damage numbers were pretty eye opening for me when I first tired them out.
Shouta
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Been forgetting to poke my head in recently. I've started playing LoL pretty casually. I've only had 3ish PVP games but enough AI games to get me to level 10, lol. Still learning what gear builds/set-ups work well (and to my taste) for my characters but it's been progressing well. HP builds on tanks are killing me right now though, ugh.
SouthernDragon
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Either use their strat, or build Kog with Madreds and Frozen Mallet. Laugh, and laugh hard. I bought Kog at the height of the HP TANK meta, especially at my low level.
I enjoyed those games.
Does that actually work if they build magic resist as well as HP?
The spectator mode is really incredible in how fully featured it is. This is a big deal for esports, and it makes one wonder how Blizzard fell behind on all of this. They had it in the palm of their hand, and while they haven't completely fumbled the ball just yet, they've let several competitors (most notably Riot) catch them.
Shouta
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I play ranged characters more often than not right now. Mostly Twisted Fate and some Sivir. I tried Graves too and I dig him but don't want to spend the cash to pick him up yet. I've played a bit of Garen though. Getting used to melee characters is rough without proper support when laning. =|
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
It's sad really. A big company like Blizzard can't even offer us SC2 fans a reconnect option or even basic LAN. I hope LoL outgrows SC2 and forces Blizzard to step their game up.
SouthernDragon
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I would like to see charts showing gold advantage over time, farm over time, that sort of thing.
Then play Kog! If you are playing melee characters top, play people with high sustain or a great escape.
Holy shit. Fully featured spectator mode [minus first person view? D:]. And here I thought I was about to quit LoL. Nice timing Rayven.
EDIT: directed camera on the player is close enough to first person view I suppose
Generally speaking, ranged characters will beat tanky HP characters because they'll have champions in front of them to protect them somewhat.
EDIT: directed camera on the player is close enough to first person view I suppose
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