Most of my girls could possibly benefit from the AD (Lux, Diana, Ori all have autoattacking passives), and I like to harass with autoattacks, but nowadays I feel like everyone has more AP than I do early and mid game. It usually doesn't determine whether I win or lose but I feel like I get a handicapped start (I'm running mpen reds, mana regen yellows, flat mr blues and ap quints, 21 0 9).
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The counter point would be what does 4 AP add? Diana's Q gains 2.8 Damage (2.4 on Passive and W), Lux QE gains 5.2 Damage. 3 AD adds ~2 Damage per hit and is mana free and not restricted by cooldowns (or Mana).
Anyway, as for last hitting, Melee Minions do 12 Damage @ 1.25 APS, Caster Minions do 25 Damage @ 0.67 APS (15, 17 DPS); health wise, it's 445 and 280 respectively*. Most AP Mids have around 50 AD at Level 1 and gain approximately 3 per Level.
That said, it's hard to give a total DPS figure since minions don't focus fire and they're rather unpredictable. But, then again, that unpredictable nature is sort of the point. The different attack speeds (plus just different starting times for attacking) make it hard to gauge exactly when their health is at a certain level unless you check their health by clicking on them. Every point of AD is a little extra leeway in eyeballing health.
*Their Damage, Health, and Armor scale up as time goes by but you get the idea.
Most people don't really run much besides AP Quints, if that (Movement is honestly a more attractive option most of the time). Generally speaking, if someone has more MR than you in lane, they're running non-MR blues which puts them at a greater disadvantage.
I'm thinking of it as getting a slight edge, 4/6 extra AP is about 30% more AP, but yeah, now that I think about it, low level magic damage comes from leveling up skills more than anything, so what you're saying makes sense.
I'm curious about doing MS quints, but at 2k IP each it'll take a long time.
Wolf Akela
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So will glasscannon AP Hurricane Varus be viable? Sorc Shoes, Hurricane, Deathcap, Zhonya, Nashor (for CDR), Void. His W has 6% AP ratio on fullstack, so having 500AP would do 45% of max HP.
That item needs to be used before anyone stealths. It would be broken otherwise.
CountBlack
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why must there always be one person on my team who's 0-5 within 20 minutes into the game -_-
WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE START A GAME IF THEY HAVE TO LEAVE 20 MINUTES INTO IT.
I always get the stupidest people on my team, holy shit
WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE START A GAME IF THEY HAVE TO LEAVE 20 MINUTES INTO IT.
I always get the stupidest people on my team, holy shit
Just harmless complaints about our misconceptions about how it worked due to vague descriptions.
Movespeed quints are the best thing since sliced bread for an ap mid. I'm hard pressed to think of a mid champ I play often that I wouldn't use ms quints. Well worth the investment.
Oh my word. 90 minute game. My body is broken.
Last 40 minutes was us turtling after our nexus turrets were destroyed. We kept taking the majority of their team down but couldn't take advantage of the fact because all our inhibs were down constantly. I sold my boots and our Ryze had four Deathcaps, haha. Slowly we managed to push mid and after we aced them at the end me and a Zed went down mid to take turrets but didn't pay attention and minions overwhelmed the ones who stayed at nexus.
Hilarious game though :')
crackbabyjr
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Oh my word. 90 minute game. My body is broken.
Last 40 minutes was us turtling after our nexus turrets were destroyed. We kept taking the majority of their team down but couldn't take advantage of the fact because all our inhibs were down constantly. I sold my boots and our Ryze had four Deathcaps, haha. Slowly we managed to push mid and after we aced them at the end me and a Zed went down mid to take turrets but didn't pay attention and minions overwhelmed the ones who stayed at nexus.
Hilarious game though :')
Haha what was the total kills on each team.
Around the 70s for both of us. We didn't lose anyone in teamfights usually, but our Ryze was hungry and kept running to their turrets and killing himself/getting caught trying to destroy them, haha.
Hmm, my problem is that I'd start with literally 3, 4 AP. I just played against a 30 AP Ahri. She does an extra 20 damage per harass.
Stuff like that scares me.
In any case, I won anyways with my puny 17 AP. I'm really liking Diana
Mister Wilhelm
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Just watched BEST SHACO NA run a train on another team. Guy went legendary and survived so many ganks with 5% hp I can't even remember them all.
He also had a Pantheon and TF on his team and they pulled some of the craziest shit I've ever seen despite being down 10 kills in 15 minutes.
He also had a Pantheon and TF on his team and they pulled some of the craziest shit I've ever seen despite being down 10 kills in 15 minutes.
Movement helps you dodge Ahri's harass. Mid lane is almost entirely about dodging skillshots. Who cares if she deals 20 more damage per harass if she can't land it.
A lady puncher? I am intrigued and wish to subscribe to their newsletter.
Further adventures in new item land:
Further adventures in new item land:
- Frustrating games recently, had three with 14 kills in a row and few deaths, but granted I'm probably very bad at ganking and teamfighting so I lost two of them.
- I tried AP Eve jungle, died to wraiths and lost red buff at like...level 5 or so since I stupidly thought I might be able to kill them. New jungle hurts. ;_;
- New DFG takes forever to save up for, and I miss kage's pick building into it.
- I bought the Stupid Kiunch Ghost item but forgot to ever use the ghosts! It was right before the game ended anyway.
- I finally tried a boot upgrade besides homeguard -- furor (move fast if you attack stuff). I never really noticed its effects since Eve works that way anyway, and if I got kited it was because I messed up or was out of range to begin with. I probably should have tried captain or move fast or even homeguard upgrades that game.
She's been that way for a while now. Like at least since I started playing with GAF.
Oh, maybe. These are just in the patch note changes I see off a third party site.
Wolf Akela
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Vi looks pretty... meh. When I saw the thumbnail I thought it was a Fiora skin.
At least we stopped on the medium boobed female champ with a helm (Dark Valkyrie Diana, Syndra, Elise)... for now.
edit: data mined patch notes
jungle Yi made more... consistent
At least we stopped on the medium boobed female champ with a helm (Dark Valkyrie Diana, Syndra, Elise)... for now.
edit: data mined patch notes
jungle Yi made more... consistent
Can someone post the change notes, please?
If it's an AP Yi buff, I'm not altogether sure he needs that. AP Yi showed up in a tournament, it's not supposed to be buffed. D:
*edit* Katarina: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V_-g_wOf_-E/UMGNr4RZKpI/AAAAAAAAK3c/LxhqvcS_ZsQ/s1600/katarina.png
Maybe the splash will be nice, but the skin itself... :|
Vi looks awesome. Loads of new skins here:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2012/12/126-pbe-update.html
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2012/12/126-pbe-update.html
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Nami Spotlight
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IT'S HAPPENING YOU GUYS!
lazorexplosion
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Tip: bind "attack move click" to mouse button 3 or similar. Now kiting is just right click behind you, middle click in front of you, right click behind you, middle click in front of you. Easy fast accurate kiting.
Edit: you should note it targets the closest enemy, including minions if they are closer than champions so you still have to target champions if there are minions nearby. But even if so it still has the benefit of stopping you from moving forward like a chump if you miss a right click.
Edit: you should note it targets the closest enemy, including minions if they are closer than champions so you still have to target champions if there are minions nearby. But even if so it still has the benefit of stopping you from moving forward like a chump if you miss a right click.
Wolf Akela
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Move over Jax? This sounds OP as hell you can easily maintain that ASPD.
A suppressive Malphite ult?
Goddomn Riot stop with the power creep.
Rengar got smashed.
RIP, big guy.
Vi has an amazing kit. She sounds like she has sticking power problems but with a FM/gauntlet or whatever, shes gonna smash faces with that W. She sounds like a Darius level bruiser (high damage, no innate survability). Rather than rengar level tanky bruiser (mid damage, high survival).
Jax is actually tankier than her
And I doubt it's as fast as Malph ult though.
RIP, big guy.
Vi has an amazing kit. She sounds like she has sticking power problems but with a FM/gauntlet or whatever, shes gonna smash faces with that W. She sounds like a Darius level bruiser (high damage, no innate survability). Rather than rengar level tanky bruiser (mid damage, high survival).
Jax is actually tankier than her
And I doubt it's as fast as Malph ult though.
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Welcome, to the league of bruisers.
Last 15 releases, (not including nami)
2 assasins (ad casters)
2 ADC
1 support
1 tank
1 melee ADC
3 bruisers
4 mages
1 jayce
this is clearly, the league of mages.
holy shit, recalling now visible on minimap. game changer.
theres already a video for vi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKUK7B2fkqs
Pancakes
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In your opinion, do we need bigger boobs or smaller boobs?
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Variety is the spice of life.
Played Vi on the PBE in a basic bot match. Ask anything if you want. Super fun champion. Q charges up a dash punch, didn't realize this reading the stuff. Her passive is a shield based on her HP that has a cooldown. Her E does huge AOE damage. It's on hit but the bigger thing is that it resets your auto attack. Amazing wave clear. Amazing at destroying towers. Her burst is crazy with it. Weirdest thing is charging up her W. You have to hit an enemy three times in a row for the buff, there are visible stacking rings around them. Her ultimate has pretty good range on it. Reeeeeeeeeeeeally high damage on that too. I think it was over 1k by the time I hit late game. Oh, and I soloed Baron no problem with her. She is crazy.
crackbabyjr
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Uniboob cyclop mage with two crowns.
Can you post/detail the Teemo changes, please?
They were already posted and are in here: http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/22597-unoffical-pbe-patch-notes-for-12-7-2012
Not everything in here goes through or is true necessarily.
crackbabyjr
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new ward skins
total recall triple boobs with crowns for fists
Wards are cool, I would buy them if they were permanent and yea your idea is better. Gotta email morello that.
Thanks, I didn't see the edit in Wolf's post. Sorry.
*edit* -150 damage per mushroom for Teemo, ouch. That's a good bit of damage.
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