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League of Legends |OT3| Lizards are red, golems are blue. Give a leash or no gank 4 u

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Snowman

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Trundle is really good now, BotRK was already pretty good on him, and after all those other junglers got nerfed he seems pretty strong!
 
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y2dvd

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Bruiser? Get Botrk.
Jungler? Get Botrk.
Adc? Get Botrk.
It's the new Warmogs!

Had a pretty serious promotional series. 2/3 games. First game I lost. Uh oh not looking good. Second game my team fell behind from the start, but we were able to win mid and late game. Now I'm 1-1. Third game was looking so bleak. Our team KD ratio started out 0-7. We were getting stomped and I was thinking, that's karma for saying I'd never play more than 100 games in a division haha! My team is fighting, talking smack and being all sorts of dysfunctional. I just kept quiet and continued to play. We eventually came back to win it!

I won all my divisional series in platinum so far. Time to win the one to get me to Diamond!
 
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garath

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y2dvd said:
Bruiser? Get Botrk.
Jungler? Get Botrk.
Adc? Get Botrk.
It's the new Warmogs!

Had a pretty serious promotional series. 2/3 games. First game I lost. Uh oh not looking good. Second game my team fell behind from the start, but we were able to win mid and late game. Now I'm 1-1. Third game was looking so bleak. Our team KD ratio started out 0-7. We were getting stomped and I was thinking, that's karma for saying I'd never play more than 100 games in a division haha! My team is fighting, talking smack and being all sorts of dysfunctional. I just kept quiet and continued to play. We eventually came back to win it!

I won all my divisional series in platinum so far. Time to win the one to get me to Diamond!
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Wow. Congratz!! Very very nice :)

I'm different, I was getting botrk on Noc and Vi before the buff/nerf. It was seriously OP before. Like solo baron at level 14 on Nocturne OP. That passive was so strong. I think it was just starting to catch on too.

bjaelke said:
I assume the next fotm will be Warden's Mail in some form.
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It already kind of is. You can bet on at least 2 people per team to have Randuin's.
 
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Macattk15

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garath said:
I saw that too.. Bloodmoon is a much better skin overall.. but you know.. Nurse akali.... :eek:

I'll probably buy it :(
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When I play a champion I do not have a skin for ... I feel real bad on the inside.

I also own every legendary besides Brolaf. Dunno if that feels bad or good. I think good.
 
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PhillipCostigan

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Macattk15 said:
When I play a champion I do not have a skin for ... I feel real bad on the inside.

I also own every legendary besides Brolaf. Dunno if that feels bad or good. I think good.
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I know how you feel, I've been playing lots of jungle Kayle recently and I don't have a skin :( Obviously I really want Aether Wing, but I can't afford it at the mo.

If I had a refund I'd refund Pulsefire Ez and get it, but they're all gone :(
 
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zkylon

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Boken said:
Don't you know? it's the league of the BOTRK
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Well I play AP mids so...

Also I was playing Ori and she can kite but not nearly as well as Lux or Anivia and I really could've used a nice, thick, fucker-blocking Anivia wall.

It's one of the risks of blind pick, we had no disengage because we went for very strong initiates (Maokai, Blitz, Jarvan IV) and we run into a team full of non-targets for Blitz or Mao (Thresh, Singed, Nasus, even Vlad). Even if I did pull off a couple good ultis Blitz was unfortunately completely useless (of all adcs they had to have Tristana) and we had almost zero peel so Nasus and Singed would just zone/blow us carries up.

I think if I had picked Anivia we could've won, and we also probably should've invaded Nasus, the guy was ridiculously strong, we should've denied him blue buff at least.
 
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Schweinehund

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Is there a stats website that is up to date? Also, what is the method they use to obtain the data?

Trying to find what champs are good right now because I haven't played the game seriously in a long time.
 
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Nether

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Schweinehund said:
Is there a stats website that is up to date? Also, what is the method they use to obtain the data?

Trying to find what champs are good right now because I haven't played the game seriously in a long time.
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www.lolking.net sounds like what you're after. I'd caution against using winrates (and even more so loss rates) as an answer to a binary "is this champ good" question though. The data is fun to browse though.
 
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Schweinehund

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Nether said:
www.lolking.net sounds like what you're after. I'd caution against using winrates (and even more so loss rates) as an answer to a binary "is this champ good" question though. The data is fun to browse though.
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Is there any way to expand it to show all the heroes?

Yeah I know win rate isn't the end all but looking at the lower winrates is usually an indication of what heroes I should avoid :p (even that is sometimes a mistake, Lone Druid, a hero in dota 2, has a 45% win rate even though he's one of the best carries, prob due to his difficulty). I see some of my anecdotal experiences line up with the data, I remember olaf being a bit better the last time I played him.
 
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Ferrio

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FieryBalrog said:
Yeah, it's fucking stupid. I don't understand this need to make dramatic changes instead of smaller, incremental changes. The item is too good for too many things.
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Riot makes stacking HP too good, so then they make an OP item to circumvent it... but not fix the problem.

Reminds me of the whole getting a cat to catch the mouse, but now you need a dog to catch the cat... etc.
 
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Cels

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Has it really been 2 years since J4 came out? Did they fix the "impassable terrain" bug where heroes like Vayne and Riven that can't normally go through walls can go through Cataclysm?
 
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FieryBalrog

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Ferrio said:
Riot makes stacking HP too good, so then they make an OP item to circumvent it... but not fix the problem.

Reminds me of the whole getting a cat to catch the mouse, but now you need a dog to catch the cat... etc.
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Why not just nerf Warmogs? I do think some AD item in the game should punish HP stacking, like Madred's Razor used to. The problem is making it too comprehensive and the bonus a little too ridiculous. Combined with IAS, the % based damage is out of control. I was playing Nasus vs a Teemo and a Draven the other day, and we almost won, but once they both built BOTRK, I just melted instantly before I could do jack shit, as did Amumu. We might as well have not been tanks at that point. I didn't have Warmogs, but enough HP from Spirit Visage/Randuin's/my ult that it didn't matter.

And did they ever explain why they got rid of Force of Nature... I just come back to playing after a while and see it's not there.
 
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zkylon

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FieryBalrog said:
Why not just nerf Warmogs? I do think some AD item in the game should punish HP stacking, like Madred's Razor used to. The problem is making it too comprehensive and the bonus a little too ridiculous.

And did they ever explain why they got rid of Force of Nature... I just come back to playing after a while and see it's not there.
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Because it was like the weirdest item ever, health regen, movement speed and magic resist all bunched up together for whatever reason.

I agree the problem is with Giant Belt->Warmogs, I don't get why they can't just cut 80 HP off Giant Belt and 200 off Warmogs (and maybe backtrack on the passive change?).
 
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FieryBalrog

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zkylon said:
Well I don't know much about Nasus but I guess he farm Q uncontested and he's a pretty strong duelist and counterganker so why not?

Really all this Nasus did was steal our Mao's jungle and just gank me from behind T_T
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There aren't nearly enough minions in the jungle to properly farm Q, especially since you have to full clear Wolves/Wraiths to get the little ones to respawn, and killing the big Wolf and the big Wraith at the early levels is a giant pain in the ass. Also Q cooldown early on is pretty long and it takes forever to clear out a single camp. Haha, there are like 100 different reasons not to put Nasus in the jungle, but I guess fuck-around games do happen. Also I can see throwing him the red buff and getting to level 2 to do a Wither + Siphon Strike + red buff gank, but after that it would be back in lane.
 
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PhillipCostigan

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FieryBalrog said:
There aren't nearly enough minions in the jungle to properly farm Q, especially since you have to full clear Wolves/Wraiths to get the little ones to respawn, and killing the big Wolf and the big Wraith at the early levels is a giant pain in the ass. Also Q cooldown early on is pretty long and it takes forever to clear out a single camp. Haha, there are like 100 different reasons not to put Nasus in the jungle, but I guess fuck-around games do happen. Also I can see throwing him the red buff and getting to level 2 to do a Wither + Siphon Strike + red buff gank, but after that it would be back in lane.
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Tell all that to Gambit Diamond, who's been shitting all over the LCS with Nasus jungle.
 
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Inskipp

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PhillipCostigan said:
Tell all that to Gambit Diamond, who's been shitting all over the LCS with Nasus jungle.
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And SK- gaming, and Triple- A...

A lot of EU- teams utilized Nasus- jungle during the super week with good success. I think Nasus even got respect- banned a couple of times against some of these teams.
 
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zkylon

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FieryBalrog said:
There aren't nearly enough minions in the jungle to properly farm Q, especially since you have to full clear Wolves/Wraiths to get the little ones to respawn, and killing the big Wolf and the big Wraith at the early levels is a giant pain in the ass. Also Q cooldown early on is pretty long and it takes forever to clear out a single camp. Haha, there are like 100 different reasons not to put Nasus in the jungle, but I guess fuck-around games do happen. Also I can see throwing him the red buff and getting to level 2 to do a Wither + Siphon Strike + red buff gank, but after that it would be back in lane.
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Well since now Q gives double bonus damage if used on big monsters, maybe it's just as worth it in jungle as in lane? One cannon minion every three waves versus 3 or 4 per jungle sweep?

Raitosaito said:
Alright, I didn't get any feedback last time on if any of you guys would be interested in a LoL documentary.

I decided to do a kickstarter anyways because people on GAF steam community were positive to the idea.

If you guys just want to check out the page you can click here.
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Sounds good, I just have a thing with videogame documentaries, so it'll probably not be for me.

Best of luck, though :D
 
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