Hehe, we can agree to disagree on W first. I'll always Q first. W may have a lower cooldown but you have to be up close and personal for that. Q is a great harass tool and with W proc'ing the mark, you can still farm effectively. Q is more damage the first 4 levels as well. I just don't like getting in melee range to harass. The trade usually isn't favorable.
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League of Legends |OT3| Lizards are red, golems are blue. Give a leash or no gank 4 u
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Hehe, we can agree to disagree on W first. I'll always Q first. W may have a lower cooldown but you have to be up close and personal for that. Q is a great harass tool and with W proc'ing the mark, you can still farm effectively. Q is more damage the first 4 levels as well. I just don't like getting in melee range to harass. The trade usually isn't favorable.
Fair enough but:
You win most melee range trades. The few that you don't (Kassadin) are the ones I mention going Q first on and, even then, I'm not sure that's really the best way to handle the situation. W opens up the possibility of outplaying every single skill shot champ and it gives you better wave clear and damage over time.
Q lets you play passively from a far. W lets you punish. I play Kat fairly hyper aggressive so W fits me a lot better.
You win most melee range trades. The few that you don't (Kassadin) are the ones I mention going Q first on and, even then, I'm not sure that's really the best way to handle the situation. W opens up the possibility of outplaying every single skill shot champ and it gives you better wave clear and damage over time.
Q lets you play passively from a far. W lets you punish. I play Kat fairly hyper aggressive so W fits me a lot better.
Finn of Ooo
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Kha'zix is so fucking fun, leaping around the battle q-ing the shit out of everything. Love seeing those big red bars
Getting that close means the opponent will get at least 1 or 2 autos plus whatever spell they choose to chuck your way not to mention potentially over-extending for a gank. A 675 range Q is almost free harass as a mana user won't keep up over time.
I dunno. I'm open to try anything but I hardly think W is a clear choice. I will be trying a magic pen build today though
Lone_Prodigy
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Won my first ranked game yesterday. Our Ezrael claimed he was a 2400 ELO smurf. Forgot his main account but this was the alleged smurf: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/34061684
Even though I was support I accidentally stole our jungler's blue (his fault I guess for not Smiting) and getting FB. Heh.
Also, free champs this week:
Cho'Gath
Katarina
Viktor
Ziggs
Dr. Mundo
Miss Fortune
Vayne
Skarner
Alistar
Janna
Even though I was support I accidentally stole our jungler's blue (his fault I guess for not Smiting) and getting FB. Heh.
Also, free champs this week:
Cho'Gath
Katarina
Viktor
Ziggs
Dr. Mundo
Miss Fortune
Vayne
Skarner
Alistar
Janna
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Hmm free Kat week I wanna try her out. Also, oh god free Vayne week whyyyy!
Your autos + two Ws deal more damage in four seconds than four seconds of their auto attack damage, not that this will really pan out this way (unless they run from you when you QEW in, then you pursue to get the extra W in). You shouldn't be going in there when they have a spell off cooldown to hit you with either and not many champs have an ability on as short of a cooldown as you.
You punish every missed skillshot (or just spell on cooldown) with an EW and the movement speed boost is enough to get you out before taking too much damage (that is reduced anyway). EW is an effective 1075 unit range as well, though just Shunpoing to them is a lot easier to do, even at just the 700 range.
If I go in to EW, the opponent has to react. Most mids can't just sit there and try to trade with Kat auto's and another W up in a few seconds. Especially if I do it after dodging whatever skillshot they have (or trust myself to dodge a reactionary skillshot snare).
Also, what match up we're talking about matters a bit here. There's a few point-and-click champs that I'd be hesitant to approach (say, Kassadin) or some burst champs that are nasty (Annie with stun up, fuck Leblanc in general). Then things like Modekaiser, Kennen, Malzahar can just be rough in general. Pretty much every skillshot champ is fair game though.
I dunno. I'm open to try anything but I hardly think W is a clear choice. I will be trying a magic pen build today though
To be fair, I haven't played leveling Q first in a long time.
dat Alistar
Yeah, I'm a smurf for a 3000 ELO account. Did I forget to bring this up?
That's a pretty great list, own almost all though. Happy for Kat as I've been thinking about unlocking her.
Why don't you already own her? She's like 3150.
Also, wouldn't you rather play Viktor?
There's no set number due to the way they work (repeat honors from the same person means they're worth less, some function of how often you're honored, fucking magic). Then there's also the fact that some of the ribbons we don't even know how to unlock as it's apparently not just "get a lot of X, get X ribbon."
Just because you're a "high ELO smurf" doesn't mean you can insult everyone. You also can't say stupid things like "I GUESS WE HAVE TO CARRY THIS" when you're playing the carries, or say the support doesn't know what wards are when he has 4 in inventory and the enemy Sona has had oracles for 20 minutes.
I really don't want to play this game anymore; there's really no point in playing a game that's just 40 minutes of verbal abuse that goes by unpunished. The online community in this is seriously the worst. At least on XBL I can just mute the mic. Here I have to read every piece of asinine drivel people can spit out.
forgeforsaken
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I still wanted to win so I couldn't just mute the carries, even if they are the worst people on the planet. Also, GAFK.
Because ranked.
Ignored. huehuehue
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No one does Tribunal anymore, they stopped giving IP for it.
Reported, refusing to communicate with team.
SouthernDragon
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Play Dominion bro, I rarely get bad attitudes in there.
crackbabyjr
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I think I get yelled at more in Dominion than I do in SR for some reason, but I just run around from point to point doing nothing so that might be why.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Just because you're a "high ELO smurf" doesn't mean you can insult everyone. You also can't say stupid things like "I GUESS WE HAVE TO CARRY THIS" when you're playing the carries, or say the support doesn't know what wards are when he has 4 in inventory and the enemy Sona has had oracles for 20 minutes.
I really don't want to play this game anymore; there's really no point in playing a game that's just 40 minutes of verbal abuse that goes by unpunished. The online community in this is seriously the worst. At least on XBL I can just mute the mic. Here I have to read every piece of asinine drivel people can spit out.
This makes me want to play ranked.
Inskipp
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beyond_death
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I actually played with an asshole last night and we had a small convo that looked abit like that. Dude kept saying I sucked while he kept tower diving and dying. The entire game he was saying we can't win (we ended up winning) and called everyone idiots for rushing mid and losing a teamfight when he was the one that said to rush mid.
Luckily these encounters are few and far between and I've noticed people have been actively nicer overall since the honor system.
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I still see too many not-LoL avatars. I'm disappointed in y'all.
Pretty uninteresting week, but will try Mundo and Kat for sure.
It's no more pr0n than her actual splash art, and it's way cuter.
Nonsense. I did 20 cases last week.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Punish, punish, punish, punish, punish, punish, punish.
crackbabyjr
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There is 20 minutes of your life wasted.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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So I guess by top lane and jungle remake they mean completely changing those parts of the map?
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How to play Rengar.
Jungle is so complicated >_<. Buff timers, ganks, holding lanes, counter jungling, blaaaah.
Jungle is so complicated >_<. Buff timers, ganks, holding lanes, counter jungling, blaaaah.
Needs a disclaimer of: "This is versus 100 elo."
Not too much harder anywhere else, just saying that those players were exceptionally bad.
Legato.Reborn-
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haha wacking people with rulers
excellent
excellent
Not even close, think I was about 50/50.
I'm bringing you a better community one day at a time.
Also, y'all need to just look at porn for free instead of giving Riot all your money for tits.
Damn.
You probably spent more time on Tribunal than playing the game.
You should buy some. Don't you want to be cool?
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