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[Blizzard]

I don't know about the meta now, but the first two games I've played in 3+ weeks have gone like this:

Game 1. Kog'maw mid (okay given pro games this is expected)
Game 2. Vayne top (ended up winning against our Teemo, but we won the game)

 

[Tizoc]

I don't know about the meta now, but the first two games I've played in 3+ weeks have gone like this:

Game 1. Kog'maw mid (okay given pro games this is expected)
Game 2. Vayne top (ended up winning against our Teemo, but we won the game)

Mid Kog can work since his abilities do scale with AP.
Top Vayne is doable depending on they're up against.

Also PSA 2 for 1 rune pages is live

Aw shi, I need that. I really need that

 

[Terbinator]

The Faker Zed v Zed play just got called a non-event for Leeg's eSports growth.

Avoid thread at all costs.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Man I'm really getting annoyed at constantly disconnecting from PvP.net in the client.

Dunno if it's just me or an issue with Riots servers, only started a couple nights ago.

 

[KarneeKarnay]

Haha no problem mate.
Yeah Brutalizer on Garen is good, and usually it'd be built into Black Cleaver, but now it only goes into Youmuu and I don't see Phage working too well on Garen, least I haven't tested it much yet to see if it still gives him movement speed while E-ing.
If the match went on longer you could've built Inf. Edge sine his E will crit.

I've built the BC on Garen vs a Pantheon and I did pretty well. The big bonus for getting BC on Garen is that your E does proc the BC for 5 stacks. That means they have been taking some pretty serious neg modifiers and any extra dmg you do is going to hit like a truck. I'm not sure if phage procs whilst in E, but it will definatley proc with your Q.

In my last game I saw someone go Garen top max their Q and buy BC. Every time they spinned they would follow with a Q, doing tons of dmg. They then built rabadons and just stuck to the enemy like glue This is an extremely good item on Garen, but I feel players will fall into a common trap if they rush it. Rushing dmg over health/armour is not a good thing. Your dmg will spike in early, but by the end of mid you are going to have to build some armour. BC is almost always a second item for me, unless I am dominating a lane.

 

[Tizoc]

I've built the BC on Garen vs a Pantheon and I did pretty well. The big bonus for getting BC on Garen is that your E does proc the BC for 5 stacks. That means they have been taking some pretty serious neg modifiers and any extra dmg you do is going to hit like a truck. I'm not sure if phage procs whilst in E, but it will definatley proc with your Q.

In my last game I saw someone go Garen top max their Q and buy BC. Every time they spinned they would follow with a Q, doing tons of dmg. They then built rabadons and just stuck to the enemy like glue This is an extremely good item on Garen, but I feel players will fall into a common trap if they rush it. Rushing dmg over health/armour is not a good thing. Your dmg will spike in early, but by the end of mid you are going to have to build some armour. BC is almost always a second item for me, unless I am dominating a lane.

Wait Rabadon or do you mean Randuin
cUZ WHIle Garen's Ult deals magic damage none of his abilities scale off of AP.

 

[Banzai]

Question: Why would I ever build BT over BOTRK as an adc? 8% of current health as physical damage seems like a lot. Is the difference in life steal very noticable?
Ive built BOTRK in some games with tanky enemies and it felt like it made a huge difference.

 

[cHinzo]

Building BT was good against those assassins, because it provided you with a shield. It also works well against poke teams. Botrk should be the better item to build atm, because of all those tanks in this meta.

 

[Stone Ocean]

BT gives more damage and sustain against squishy targets and is better for sieges since you do more damage vs structures and get to heal back quickly from minions if you get poked, which is pretty important in a meta with Luden's everywhere

If you don't need to kill a big tank there's not much reason to get BoTRK on IE ADCs

 

[KarneeKarnay]

Wait Rabadon or do you mean Randuin
cUZ WHIle Garen's Ult deals magic damage none of his abilities scale off of AP.

XD. Yes.

That said if you get an Abyssal Scepter you can almost guarantee kills with your ult.

 

[Wolf Akela]

AP Garen used to be doable with old old DFG and old old Lich Bane. You just DFG->Q->R. DFG could nuke nearly half of your max HP with some AP, Lich Bane scaled with 100% AP then R just executes the remaining HP.

I played one game with it and people kept laughing at my Amp Tome start. I trolled them by saying I needed Ability Power to power my abilities. Ended up outperforming them.

edit: I actually saved this gem. Translated for GAF.

 

[Sofo]

Is that Filipino? Pardon my ignorance, I don't know much about south-east Asia languages but I have a friend at the course I go to that says "puro"/"pero" a lot when talking to her friends. (which is pretty similar to the Spanish "pero", "but").

 

[Wolf Akela]

Yup! I didn't expect someone here to recognize it. Where do you live?

 

[Sofo]

Yup! I didn't expect someone here to recognize it. Where do you live?

I moved to Norway a couple years ago and since I'm still polishing my Norwegian I go to a course People from all around the world and I'm pretty outgoing myself so I get to pick up lots of little things from other languages (I am a sucker for learning languages haha).

 

[Stone Ocean]

Mastery is out on NA, it seems

 

[NCR Redslayer]

Mastery is out on NA, it seems

Any details on what the custom emote thing is?

 

[Deleted member 77995]

So whats the point if only you can see it then.

Pretty useless and worthless unless you spam the emote

Participation trophy

 

[Bacon]

Mastery is out on NA, it seems

 

[TomShoe]

tfw 2 of your teammates AFK during a ranked game

but loss prevented

Mastery is out on NA, it seems

those logos better be nice

 

[Deleted member 77995]

Probably gonna start decaying soon but other games got me busy -_-

 

[Stone Ocean]

Any details on what the custom emote thing is?

It's a little golden thing that goes "ding" on top of your champion

 

[Ghost is Bad]

i cant wait to not ever use it.

 

[Stone Ocean]

I'll just master Vayne and use the emote to assert dominance over my teammates as I rank W at fountain

 

[faridmon]

Is there big changes coming to LoL that I should be aware of? It seems that I live under a rock when it comes to changes (I do read balance notes here and there)

 

[Stone Ocean]

Is there big changes coming to LoL that I should be aware of? It seems that I live under a rock when it comes to changes (I do read balance notes here and there)

If we get any significant changes before this season ends it'll be by August, otherwise it'll just be balance changes until S6

 

[Edwardo]

Milver of the Soon

 

[Terbinator]

eXt4zee: guys is it okay if i karthus jungle?
eXt4zee: so pls take a tank top

Dodge?

 

[Bacon]

Dodge?

nightblue alt account

 

[faridmon]

If we get any significant changes before this season ends it'll be by August, otherwise it'll just be balance changes until S6

Thanks, I guess I 'll just keep truckin' untill then.

Also, sorry guys for not popping in more, but thanks for previous advices. I have ditched support and ADC (both turnedout to be stressful) for Jungle and now I am having fun as Sijuani. End up die alot, but I am actually more useful now.

 

[Tizoc]

XD. Yes.

That said if you get an Abyssal Scepter you can almost guarantee kills with your ult.

Magic Pen. shoes'd be better :V

 

[e90Mark]

Yup! I didn't expect someone here to recognize it. Where do you live?

Recognized it as well. Half Filipino

 

[Fracas]

Man that Jayce skin splash is all kinds of ugly

 

[Ghost is Bad]

Before reading note the difference between a few key terms:

Stance, and opinion are not the same thing. Opinions are based on non-factual information while a stance is not. Also, interpretation and deduction are not the same. Interpretation is simply the explaining of data, but all not explains are not based on fact. Deduction is the breakdown of events through the use of law or principle.

Key Point – Just because you call something incorrect doesn’t mean it is. Words alone are not proof. Which is why counter points must be made using deduction and supporting inferences.

When you pair a character with anyone other than their respective canon counterpart you are making direct negative implications about them and the feelings they express in the series they are from and degrade them as a whole. By pairing them with other characters you are stating that the feelings they express in the series are weak or otherwise worthless. This is due to multiple factors, every action works on the same principle of cause and effect, meaning that any statement a third party makes about the characters has implications about them, whether the third party intended for them to be there or not. Remembering two things; implication means the result of logical consequence, and that there are three base states of action – positive, negative, and neutral. All action falls under one of those three categories. To degrade something means to make a negative action towards it. Note that you can make degrading implications about anything, not just living people, which is why it’s factual to say you degrade the characters by making negative implications about them. Also bearing in mind that all fan made work makes direct implications about the characters for another reason. It’s “fan” work, the characters being used are predefined and developed, if you were not making a statement on the characters you would not be making fan work, but original content.

Characters are concepts that exist as set-in-stone entities. Meaning once their story is told we, as third parties viewing the events, posses all available information about them. Granted their story does not continue in a canon sequel. But even then, as new information is given we as a third party have full access to it. Point being that once a story is told it factually exists as that story and no personal view or interpretation can change the events that actually happened. Just because fallible interpretations can be made does not mean all interpretations are valid. Which is why personal taste and opinion is not a factor when determining whether certain content is insulting or degrading to the characters involved. Also, fictional stories are limited concepts set within the parameters of its creators. People are not capable of limitless thought, so neither are the concepts which they make, which is why all questions about fiction have a finite answer set. The answer set may not be one item, but the set is finite.

A character is given worth through its story’s development. This is true because if a character is not developed they are considered a blank slate, and a blank slate has no worth. If a character is not developed then no story about it has been told, meaning it’s not even a character. Characters are abstract concepts and as such their value is also abstract, meaning it is not a numerical value but a conceptual one. Developed in a canon setting gives a character worth, so when that development is discarded for the sake of pairing the character with someone other than their canon counterpart you are implying that said development is worthless in the setting where choose to pair the alternate characters. It makes this implication because in the setting with the alternate pair the canon feelings of said characters are not being used. To not use the feelings is the same as saying the feelings have no worth because if the state of being used does not give them worth, nothing does. Just saying “I give the feelings worth because I like them” is not the same as actually giving them worth because you just stating something does not make it true. Similar to saying “I am running” while you are actually walking. Statements alone do not prove fact, the result of logical consequence proves fact as the results can be repeated and tested by multiple parties. Remembering that value comes canon development and implying that canon development is the same fan development is making a high to low comparison, thus is a negative state of action, and is thus degrading to the story and characters. Also, to be degrading does not have to have an actual effect on the content. “Degrading” is the only the type of statement you are making. It should also be noted that the term canon is used to describe what is factual within a fictional setting. And the one way to prove something is canon is to be able to support it through events in the series. Which is why the not all official content is canon, and some series have multiple canons.

The main reason that alternative pairings are degrading to the characters is that it implies their feelings are weak and disposable. If the feelings between two characters are strong then they would not easily fall in love with other characters, which is what alternative pairs imply as they make direct implications about the characters due to the nature of being fan made content. And the same as it was before making a high to low comparison about the strength of the character’s feelings is a negative action, and thus a degrading type of statement. Not all deviation from canon is a negative implication, mind you. Only concept that in some way implies negative things about the topic. In addition, not all interaction between characters is “shipping” interaction. Only specific events have romantic connotations, even in subtext based shows. But, even under the false assumption that all interaction is “shipping” interaction pairing the characters with their non-canon counterparts is still degrading to them as you are comparing the high amount of interaction they have with their canon pair to the low amount they have with the alternative pair, again, being high to low, which makes it degrading.

It also does not matter if you “seriously” like the alternative pair or not, because no matter what you personally feel about the pair you are still making the negative implications about the feelings of the canon pair. Sort of like saying “I was just kidding about you being worthless and disposable, haha, it was just a joke.” The intention/verbal confirmation and logical consequence of the actions do not match.

To pair the characters with multiple people you are also treating them as interchangeable and disposable, which is highly insulting because it make many negative statements about them; that their feelings feelings are weak, that their character as a “person” has no real substance, that they’re not capable of being faithful to anything, etc etc. If you claim that any situation you put the characters in will lead to romantic development then that’s the same as saying all romance involving them is cheap. Basic math will tell you this. It’s a simple 1 to 1 ratio, as delta when exchanged is zero that mean everything is worth because no gain is possible. To simplify it further, you are claiming that there is nothing special about the canon relationship because it could easily be replaced. And of course, implying a strong relationship is nothing special is a high to low comparison, thus it is degrading statement.

In closing; please be aware of the difference between an opinion and a stance. An opinion is based on non-factual information. And all of the things stated here are based on the logical cohesion of events and their results and can be repeated by other parties using the same process, thus they are facts. Also, as stated before, just saying words alone is not proof of deduction, so simply calling something “wrong” is meaningless unless you support why it’s wrong. And if something is an opinion rather than a fact, you can prove it’s an opinion by pointing out the flaw in the logical process where a factor depends solely on a personal value rather than a value determined through the development of events

what the fuck did i just read

 

[NCR Redslayer]

what the fuck did i just read

Something opiate would say.

 

[Ghost is Bad]

i dont think opiate would write an essay on why he thinks people who ship madosayaka are satan.

 

[Edwardo]

Man that Jayce skin splash is all kinds of ugly

I must disagree.

 

[TomShoe]

Spoiler

If someone has the TL;DR that'd be great

 

[NCR Redslayer]

i dont think opiate would write an essay on why he thinks people who ship madosayaka are satan.

He probably would

 

[Ghost is Bad]

i dont think opiate likes that kind of anime.

 

[Bacon]

Man that Jayce skin splash is all kinds of ugly

His abilities look so bad. It's really hard to tell where his q explodes. Or that could just be due to my color blindness.

 

[Fracas]

His abilities look so bad. It's really hard to tell where his q explodes. Or that could just be due to my color blindness.

Yeah I'm watching qt's stream and the effect seems wonky. Reminds me of headhunter caitlyn's q

 

[Orochinagis]

Yeah I'm watching qt's stream and the effect seems wonky. Reminds me of headhunter caitlyn's q

Worst purchase ever, her skin abilities are so dark in a bright enviroment.

 

[Stone Ocean]

So anime

I like how Ez's hair is shaded in a way it can be any of the twenty colors it had on the PBE

Also random Riven nerfs because fuck Riven

 

[Ghost is Bad]

time to play more zed top

 

[Tizoc]

Dem splashes.
I'm gonna end up dropping 10k RP on those skins aren't I...

So anime



I like how Ez's hair is shaded in a way it can be any of the twenty colors it had on the PBE

Also random Riven nerfs because fuck Riven

RIVEN NERFS YOU SAY?
PRAISE ODIN!

 

[faridmon]

I am liking that skin. Too bad its for champ I never play!

 

[Tizoc]

Hold up

Kalista
Martial Poise (Passive) tooltip no longer includes "and is 25% greater when lunging backward.

So when trying to retreat she won't go farther back? The movement will be higher if she moves any other direction but when retreating AWAY from enemy champs?

 

[garath]

Hold up

So when trying to retreat she won't go farther back? The movement will be higher if she moves any other direction but when retreating AWAY from enemy champs?

Good. Sounds like they're just taking the additional 25% distance she gets from hopping backwards. Kite queen might be a little easier to manage now.

 

[Terbinator]

Hold up

So when trying to retreat she won't go farther back? The movement will be higher if she moves any other direction but when retreating AWAY from enemy champs?

Sounds like a reasonable QoL change.

 

[Mostmanlyman]

Am I the only one who think the champion mastery titles sound really dumb. For the assassin it is slayer, marksman is pathfinder and for fighters it is destoryer. They just sounds weird to me kinda try to be Xtreme.