SteveWinwood
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i always wanted to max birdshot and afk farm with all that free gold!!! but it wasn't anything substantial and it sucked
I just wanted an alch in leeg
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I just wanted an alch in leeg
I think there are some difference between a character that is hard to play (difficulty of use like let's say Cass) and being skilled enough to use a character to their full potential and actually contributing to the team (someone like actually playing Garen well or when you see a godlike renekton or Quinn)
Not sure if that makes sense or not.
Like the difference between a Seth (sf4) that is just flow chart rush down and when poongko plays Seth.
An okay player can do decent with them but when someone knows a character inside and out they become so much better and powerful.
Not sure if that makes sense or not.
Like the difference between a Seth (sf4) that is just flow chart rush down and when poongko plays Seth.
An okay player can do decent with them but when someone knows a character inside and out they become so much better and powerful.
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SteveWinwood
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lich, cm, ogre, dazzle, lion, wraith king, sven, tidehunter
all pretty simple, still fun and room for creativity
SteveWinwood
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bristleback
other tanky dudes would be dragon knight, undying, or centaur
there are a lot of heroes who aren't necessarily tanky but just assholes to kill like abbadon, wraith king, alch, weaver, huskar, brewmaster, slark
KarneeKarnay
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I used to play garen top a lot. Recently I've swapped more to junglers, due to better presence across the map. I can safely say that I won more top lane duels than I lost. I just knew how to play Garen better than the enemy knew how to play their own champ. My best example of this is a game where I was still bronze and I ended up vs a diamond 5 teemo. I should have lost that match up, but I knew when to bait his Q, when to force fights and when to back off. I got 6 kills on teemo during that game and didn't die once.
Is Garen that mechanically difficult? No. In fact I find if anything he is one of the easier champions to predict, but I would argue that the fact that he is predictable, makes him more difficult to play.
Is Garen that mechanically difficult? No. In fact I find if anything he is one of the easier champions to predict, but I would argue that the fact that he is predictable, makes him more difficult to play.
I notice that people always forget just how much damage his execute does and they trade for too long.
KarneeKarnay
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They do. One game I was vs a renekton. Renekton just stuck around far too long. The moment I realised he was under 300 hp I went all in. Flash->Q-Ignite-Ult. Ignite was overkill.
Garen is one of those champs that punishes players who make mistakes. It's not so much about being a good player as knowing how to predict the enemy laner. I knew exactly why that Renek stuck around. He was waiting for me to go all in and for him to stun me under tower, ult and kill me. The problem being he didn't realise the scope of my dmg. The lesson from this trade being, if you know your enemy you know how to beat them.
I've never played Renekton, but I've been against him enough times to know exactly what that player wants to do. That's why I can take advantage of that.
Another example of this is from Season 4 when Taric was still viable in Top. I was losing lane against a Vald, 4 deaths behind, two assists and one kill. Their Zed roams top lane with a 5 kill lead. He is the most fed guy in the match. I have ignite, my ult is up, full mana, health and a ice gauntlet. I 1v1 him and win. He just wasn't expecting the dmg output I had on him and the moment I saw him I went all in.
Also does anyone think about dropping ignites early against AD Champs is actually a good idea some times? I won the above engage because the moment he got out of the stun I dropped the ignite on him and his BotRK and BT meant nothing. By the time it was over he was trying to run away, he'd used all his abilities and my stun was back up.
Taric is one of the least mechanical champs in the game, but knowing what you can do with a champ is a huge advantage.
Yes, ignite early can be a big deal in a trade if you're confident you have the damage to finish the job. Lots of people will burn a pot going into a trade, so the ignite will make a difference there. If you ignite, use a pot, and go all in, you're probably going to be fine in that trade (as Garen) unless you're super far behind.
Edit: It's still more funny watching them run away with ignite burning them down though. Nothing more satisfying than walking away while they run to tower and die off screen. It's like the equivalent of walking away slowly from a massive explosion in an action movie.
Edit: It's still more funny watching them run away with ignite burning them down though. Nothing more satisfying than walking away while they run to tower and die off screen. It's like the equivalent of walking away slowly from a massive explosion in an action movie.
I haven't been able to even play the last two nights. Bummer, because I actually had time.
BreezyLimbo
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There are champions that are easy to pick up and play, and there are champions that you have to know intrinsically in order to play well. Back in my heyday I was able to buy a new champion, take him into a game, and perform well. Most ADCs fall in this manner, they all play similarly, and you treat them all similarly in a lane. I can't speak for Kalista.
Again, back in the day mages and tanks fell into this as well. I would say there would be few exceptions, like Lee Sin or Shaco, but that's because in order for you to perform well with those champions you need to know them intimately. Shaco is squishy and can die incredibly fast, Lee Sin is mechanically intense. Now a days though, they seem to be giving champions gimmicks that make them mechanically interesting. Reksai, Gnar, Kalista, Azir....not to mention Bard. All of these champions aren't as simple as older champions, because they have gimmicks or play fundamentally different from champions in their same class.
Riots learning I suppose.
He definitely requires more skill post rework, but I wouldn't put him that high since he has a free escape and he's all point and click.
Peanut Butter
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Yeah, I was just being sarcastic. Lucian is pretty easy to get the hang of. I'm terrible at the ADC position, and Lucian is the only champion that I can take over games with due to how much burst he has.
Peanut Butter
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Wasn't Quinn's ult supposed to get a huge update to where it had a 1 second CD at max rank or something?
That was a mistake.
Also played with some XJ9 impersonator.
I deserve challenjour gg.
NCR Redslayer
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If I wasn't too busy with Mosnter Hunter, I would be out of bronze by now.
Was tentative. I don't even think it ever made it to pbe, but they took away skystrike part of it and basically made her a stance changer. Same with Ali's headbutt being a skillshot.
Lone_Prodigy
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Won a ranked game last night but the servers were down so it didn't count. Whoo.
SteveWinwood
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toxic tm
What if they have a good record with Yasuo? Do you feel fine with a Yasuo on your team then?
Basically, yeah.
Saying things like "can anyone teach me how 2 jungle" could also work.
*edit* Also, the new post-game trolling strategy should be saying "S+, nice" after a game, no matter what grade the game ACTUALLY gives you.
people who do this shit are the ones who hover over the X and press it at the last second
doesnt happen often but i always enjoy the game of chicken
WesternHeretic
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Got S followed by S+ on my smurf!
Barley get an A on main =(
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
He's off "exploring" all this new Lux artwork.
Nah I don't think it'll change anything. He's popped up occasionally before
Only new thing I learned from that game is how hard he can wreck Hecarim
WesternHeretic
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Only the hardest carry.
But hot damn, Sej is DISGUSTING. I had to get cleaver and spam Mini Gnar attacks to just whittle her health down enough to get a kill.
Just imagine if that Sej went with a boot with actual combat stats, and forgo the stupid Iceborn for like Frozen Heart. Oh and also a Skirmisher sabre that lower the living crap out of your damage.
KarneeKarnay
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Is Ashe jungle a thing? Can it be done? She has the slow, but i always imagined her early game to be the weakest point. Also is ap ashe possible?
Wolf Akela
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It was done once or twice in LCS. Complete gimmick. You really need coordination to get through the jungle. She could definitely survive before they reworked the leash reset mechanic earlier this season.
AP Ashe has pitiful damage. I suppose you can go with a Volley build using Liandry and Luden.
AP Ashe has pitiful damage. I suppose you can go with a Volley build using Liandry and Luden.
MrCookiepants
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I'm so terrible at Azir in team fights. How do you keep track of your soldiers and cooldowns without unwittingly dying to poke.
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