Stone Ocean
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No, that's wrong
On-hit = Item's that hit on damage like Wit's End and Bork
On-attack = Items that trigger on the wind up like Runaans
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League of Legends |OT9| Stealing Abilities From Inferior MOBAs since 2009
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On-hit = Item's that hit on damage like Wit's End and Bork
On-attack = Items that trigger on the wind up like Runaans
I honestly don't like Ashe new changes. She was already one of the most squashiest ADC with virtually no escape, which made her a risk to play as if your positional and map awareness was not up to snuff, now, even her speed and gold intake is getting nerfed, making her even more obsolete. Not only that, the fact that her only pro, which was her crit growth have been tinkered with makes her less attractive than I imagine she will ever be. Too bad, because her style was vastly different to many ADCs out there.
Also, Riot is really trying their best diminishing Morgana as a mid champ even more. Lame!
Also, Riot is really trying their best diminishing Morgana as a mid champ even more. Lame!
Stone Ocean
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Uhh, her speed didn't get nerfed. They cut off some of her attack speed because now she has an steroid and last thing Riot wants is another Tristana.
And crit growth being a pro? She scaled just like any AD with crit, now she gets a permanent crit steroid and all the advantages it brings from guaranteed Shiv procs to a permanent +15% attack speed from masteries. She'll do less damage per crit but she will crit every single time and with IE + PD she will do normal crit damage on every auto.
And crit growth being a pro? She scaled just like any AD with crit, now she gets a permanent crit steroid and all the advantages it brings from guaranteed Shiv procs to a permanent +15% attack speed from masteries. She'll do less damage per crit but she will crit every single time and with IE + PD she will do normal crit damage on every auto.
Tizoc
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Nerfed her Gold intake?
Far as I know, only she, Draven, Gangplank and TF have a passive that lets them get bonus gold from killing units.
The removal of the old E passive just made her gold intake be as much as your average ADC.
Which was one of the few advantage she had over other ADCs
Although, I jut played against an Ashe and she as quite power :/
Yeah, I just realised that. But her crit will be missed.
What steroid are keep talking about? for that every 5 hits she gets a bonus something?
Stone Ocean
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It was 3 gold per CS
You'd get like an extra CS or two per minute and you'd likely only grab E at level 4. Any AD could get an Avarice Blade and match her E passive.
You'd get like an extra CS or two per minute and you'd likely only grab E at level 4. Any AD could get an Avarice Blade and match her E passive.
Her Q gives her 40% attack speed for it's duration at max rank. With 5 Focus stacks it also increases her AD by like 30%
I'm always in favor of bringing Zyra into play, but I haven't lost with Nami yet all season. I've always been more on Team Zyra, but I might be swinging to Team Nami.
Nami is clearly the superior pick in general, but Zyra can be an ok niche pick I think.
Zyra can save you from a boneheaded ADC or mid. If either is failing to pull their weight, you can just blow up the other team yourself. I love having Liandry's and Rylai's completed on Zyra and just watching everybody burn in slow motion.
Not the best kalista player, but it would probably depend on my first/second back. If I can get a bf sword on the first back I get the bf sword.
killatopak
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Man I really hate it when my team gets complacent. I was 9-2 as riven and our mid was 17-6 kata. Team was arrogant when they tried to 3v5 the enemy team while me and the adr was away from them. This resulted in our loss.
5.9 is around the corner and I'm really excited for the ashe revamp as well as the renek buff.
5.9 is around the corner and I'm really excited for the ashe revamp as well as the renek buff.
Yeah, I hate that too. I tend to threaten afk for team-mates who don't group. Thankfully I only have to afk in maybe every 1/5 of these scenarios.
killatopak
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What made my situation worse was that all of my team mates was actually playing right beside me literally and trash talking the enemy team. I tried to warn them because you know how riot keeps reminding us how players with bad attitude lose 20-something percent more games. We got our just desserts.
I'm not really updated on the new hero so I don't know what roles he fit in but I'd really like him to be a top laner since I main top.
Hmmm we're still at patch 5.8 and seeing all the above comments makes me optimistic since Ashe is the only adc I can play decently or at all.
That game I linked about Rengar had this going on. I really thought my team was going to lose at one point because they just kept running around the enemy jungle like a bunch of dingalings then doing nothing after getting a kill or two. I'd literally just have to keep the lanes pushed myself as graves and wait around for the entire enemy team to chase after my teammates.
I go, "Let's push and end the game. It should've been over 10 mins ago.."
Rengar: "Then why isnt it."
It got to the point where Rengar would jump into a pile of people and just die because of his 2k hp build.
3 barons later we finally push and win. I guarantee we would've lost if it wasnt for me taking inhibs and the other team being dumb. Both probably went hand in hand.
Ghost is Bad
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The way you make people group is to play jungle and randomly push every lane until they have no outers. Then your shitbrained teammates are on their own.
Hah, I hate teams that won't group. Last night we had a Shaco and a Tryndamere that both wanted to wander when we clearly had a major advantage and we just needed to group and win. Both of them were starting to feed and it was making me really nervous about the game. Luckily we won a 3v5 (Nami + Kalista is OP in team fights) and we were able to convince them that it was time to end the game. Next team fight was a 5v5 and we aced them and won.
But man, the game went 10 minutes longer than it should have, and their Cho'Gath was just about to the point where we had no chance. I think if we didn't finally get them to group with us that we would have lost the game for sure.
But man, the game went 10 minutes longer than it should have, and their Cho'Gath was just about to the point where we had no chance. I think if we didn't finally get them to group with us that we would have lost the game for sure.
Lone_Prodigy
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Yay Karma buffs on PBE. Her mid-late game needed improvement.
At least from what I've seen, it's personal preference. I think a some of it has to do with how the lane is going / first back. If you've got the money to get BF, I'd consider going for BT first. Whereas if you're punished early and back with just enough for some components, BotRK makes a little more sense. With that being said, there are plenty of builds that go Vamp Scepter first back and still end up BT first...
Orochinagis
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So order of the lotus will be a Ionian skin faction? Oh the skin dont have a special recall
Thanks fellas. I've been typically going bt first but these explanations make sense for why you might go bork first
He's going to be an absolute monster in the LCS, isn't he?
Edit: What happens if Shen casts his ult at the same time on Ekko? Would he get left behind if his channel ended before Ekko showed up in the other lane, or would he go along for the ride? If Kalista ulted Ekko and Ekko popped his ult, what happens there? I want to see people try and break things.
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I, for one, welcome our Shin Ez overlord.
I am getting tired of playing with random people who are there to flame when they, themselves, aren't doing good.
I just played Morgana as Supp with an ashe who was just swearing left and right. Later he accused me of not playing good despite having half of the number of the kills as assist...
:/
I just played Morgana as Supp with an ashe who was just swearing left and right. Later he accused me of not playing good despite having half of the number of the kills as assist...
:/
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Oh my. That's kind of cool
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Ghost is Bad
Banned
urgot is so easy to play
Stone Ocean
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Suddenly 6 kills
I still suck at the game. gg
Lol nah. Game was fun though. Wish I got to play Elise again though. Would have been more fun
Yup. I think the passive buff might be a bit pf an overkill but I love the other stuff, especially the empowered W.
Just don't pull a Ziggs on her later Riot, my heart will be crushed.
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/05/513-pbe-update.html
Dat empowered W is AMAZING and has counterplay since she has to stay kinda close to pull it off (tanky karma builds?).
Her base shield strength took a hit for the ability to use it more, overall buff i think since the movespeed is great for roams.
Really excited about these buffs, she's bawsically my main but her late game is mediocre at best as support.
SenorArdilla
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I kind of feel that Karma's R+W is saying "Murder this guy please".
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