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League of Legends |OT9| Stealing Abilities From Inferior MOBAs since 2009
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SenorArdilla
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That's in line with the AA range of most ADCs.
WesternHeretic
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Giving ADC more options to deal with tanks.
Wolf Akela
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They really want to bring back Vayne huh
Stone Ocean
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That's just undoing the nerf they made to deal with Botrk bruisers
Doesn't matter much when the active is buggier than Syndra's stun if you smartcast it
Doesn't matter much when the active is buggier than Syndra's stun if you smartcast it
A longer range on BotRK probably benefits melee champions the most in my mind. Easier to stick/grab targets from a distance. Peel only really matters up close in most cases.
WesternHeretic
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True maybe more top laners will take BotRK.
NCR Redslayer
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Well time for more Top botrk shyvana.
WesternHeretic
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I'm okay with this. New Ashe seems strong.
SenorArdilla
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New Ashe just mauls everything.
BreezyLimbo
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I'm scared to do my last placement ranked match
I'm scurred ;_;
I'm scurred ;_;
WesternHeretic
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You know you can just go to op.gg type in your name look at the MMR of your matches and know where they gonna put you...
I know it kills all the suspense....
~1700 so around Plat V
BreezyLimbo
Banned
;_; NUUUU
Dangit, those 5 losses really did me in.
I'm trying to find this info >_> IT'S NOT HELPING O;
Oh wait maybe I should click that 'Check MMR' button. I'm at 1799.
I hope this win skyrockets me to 2000. Well, next time I play...maybe...maybe Monday night.
Moar Xin buffs!
I'm not sure what to think about the new Ashe, playing my third game with her now.
It didn't help that the first two games were against a Zed, and being assassin-dived is not fun with no escapes.
She's really fun to play with the machine gun thing, but mid/late game is super weird. It seems like to me that a big part of ADC power mid/late game is having high-damage crits. Trading 250% damage crits every 2-3 hits for 150-170% damage autoattacks is a little weird, especially with the steroid that's on 4 seconds and off 18 seconds. If you turn on the Q and don't kill something, you're Ultra Dead.
It's good in lane though when you can dictate the downtime.
It didn't help that the first two games were against a Zed, and being assassin-dived is not fun with no escapes.
She's really fun to play with the machine gun thing, but mid/late game is super weird. It seems like to me that a big part of ADC power mid/late game is having high-damage crits. Trading 250% damage crits every 2-3 hits for 150-170% damage autoattacks is a little weird, especially with the steroid that's on 4 seconds and off 18 seconds. If you turn on the Q and don't kill something, you're Ultra Dead.
It's good in lane though when you can dictate the downtime.
NCR Redslayer
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That whats people said about Rek-Sai at first. Then you saw what happen.
Tizoc
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I used to go Yummy GhostBLADE+BoRK on him at Top, is it still viable on him?
That's a little bit how I feel, and you know how diamond-level my skills are.
Aside from the 4-second Q window, Ashe is a no-crit autoattacker with a slight slow, no shotgun ability with the arrows because of the duplicate hit change, and boosted autoattack damage.
The boosted autoattack damage feels kind of lacking compared to stuff like Kog'maw shred, Jinx attack speed boost, or Vayne silver bolts. The thing is, Ashe doesn't have Kog'maw range, Jinx passive/CC, or Vayne invisibility/tumble/knockback, so people don't tend to just sit there so your mini-crits can kill them. If you have a coordinated team peeling and protecting you then it can work well, but a lot of things work well with a coordinated team peeling and protecting you. =P
Wtf is this range tho.
So this guy tried a new rework. I really think he has no idea what he's doing and he should leave her alone after realising he embarked on a unnecessary and stupid quest that no one asked for. Like who cares about an increased root in exchange for all the damage? Are you serious? The only change the most perfect and glorious champion in this game needs is making her Q go past units as long as you hold the key. Stop trying to ruin her with other arbitrary changes and stop trying to force versatile champions into specific roles, you boring killjoys. Next will be not allowing some champions buy certain items, like in Smite where they removed the ability from tanks to buy other than tank items or mages other than AP stuff. Fucking sad.
Wolf Akela
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Their Lee Sin kept smoothly performing Insec maneuvers on me. ._. Level 28 my ass. I never see consistent finesse like it until at least Plat. He sold his items when the match ended. Excellent match regardless.
Soraka was a pretty dang good support too and she's only Level 9.
There are so many smurfs in normals, and there are too many bots in ARAM. League is in such a bad spot for newcomers right now.
So what is up with these people playing support and placing 9 wards in a 38 minute-match? Our top laner beat this Thresh to warding, wth. Never in my life had I seen bot-side so dark. When I decided to get the other upgraded ward (I had the upgraded sweeper already) as jungler, it was already too late. ._.
i liked debuff w karma better than this version
longer stun is kinda boring
this
game recognizes you're experienced at the game and puts you with other smurfs
real newbies encounter smurfs less frequently and its usually because of premades
she's not meant to be able to 1v1 those champions, think of her like sivir rather than jinx
longer stun is kinda boring
this
game recognizes you're experienced at the game and puts you with other smurfs
real newbies encounter smurfs less frequently and its usually because of premades
i mean, ashe has arrow, that's her thing, you're comparign her to hypercarries that do very different things than her
she's not meant to be able to 1v1 those champions, think of her like sivir rather than jinx
Wolf Akela
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It's surprising considering I was 9W/9L into the match. If I was something like 9W/0L then yeah no surprise.
win loss doesn't really matter as much, it's really easy to tell if someone's not new since new ppl die like 20times per game.
so league just has systems that quickly figure out you're on a smurf and then just throws you against other random smurfs since its so hard to like know how good you are from like pre 30 normal games
MrCookiepants
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So I think I finally encountered the stereotypical Vayne player I've heard so much about.
He spent the whole game feeding and blaming the rest of the team for it. He never left top lane (always over extended with no wards). Didn't pay attention to pings. And when teamfights were breaking out, he was on the other side of the map dying to the krugs camp or trying to solo baron with 1 and a half items.
I just...
He spent the whole game feeding and blaming the rest of the team for it. He never left top lane (always over extended with no wards). Didn't pay attention to pings. And when teamfights were breaking out, he was on the other side of the map dying to the krugs camp or trying to solo baron with 1 and a half items.
I just...
2nd rework looks like hot garbage. As someone who played support Karma and never got a chance to try it top or mid, the changes to ult-W and ult-E were really interesting, where ult-W becomes this awesome pick off tool and the passive scaling let ult-E be amazing in teamfights.
A longer snare is uninspired shit. Her abilities would be more fun if using your ult on them gave them different effects, not merely stronger versions...so I guess I'd prefer having damage back on E now. Oh fuck it, don't touch Karma.
If you don't specifically counter pick him, he will roll lane lane ridiculously fast and it's really hard to contest baron and dragons. He's dang near impossible to gank too.
*jungler pings that he's going to gank Heimer top*
*I ping caution from mid or bot, because I've seen this happen too many times*
*jungler and top go YOLO*
"DOUBLE KILL!"
"Your turret has been destroyed."
I didn't realize there was a second rework up less than a day after the first one. I agree that the second rework is pretty garbage. The first set of changes were so much more interesting to me and gave a lot of options (debuff a frontliner + indirectly heal your team while they blow them up would be amazing in this meta), but this...hope they revert it to the older new one.
Tizoc
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Our Akali was quite toxic towards the enemy Annie-
http://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1163145335/205390904?tab=stats
I took a couple of kills for myself but overall we wrecked the poor saps.
At one time Baron was like 700 HP..but the others decided to chase kills instead of taking the baron buff, leaving me alone to kill it ToT
http://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1163145335/205390904?tab=stats
I took a couple of kills for myself but overall we wrecked the poor saps.
At one time Baron was like 700 HP..but the others decided to chase kills instead of taking the baron buff, leaving me alone to kill it ToT
Our Akali was quite toxic towards the enemy Annie-
http://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1163145335/205390904?tab=stats
I took a couple of kills for myself but overall we wrecked the poor saps.
At one time Baron was like 700 HP..but the others decided to chase kills instead of taking the baron buff, leaving me alone to kill it ToT
So much death. You guys just brutalized each other for 41 minutes.
I love watching games that have a short lane phase and just turn into fight after fight after fight as people respawn. TheOddOne had a 40 something kill game sub 20 minutes yesterday that was just hilarious.
Had a game yesterday where an enemy shaco rekt our team. Was on his team in the next lobby and got him shaco, but somebody dodged. He wasn't on my team in the next lobby so I instinctively banned it and sure enough he was on the other team and mega tilted just because he didn't get shaco. His entire team said that he said at the start of their game that he didn't want to play because he wasn't shaco. He fed
Had a game yesterday where an enemy shaco rekt our team. Was on his team in the next lobby and got him shaco, but somebody dodged. He wasn't on my team in the next lobby so I instinctively banned it and sure enough he was on the other team and mega tilted just because he didn't get shaco. His entire team said that he said at the start of their game that he didn't want to play because he wasn't shaco. He fed
Whoops. Accidentally queued up ranked. I thought it strange that I got a pop up about dodging ranked games then it dawned on me when everyone in chat was being all super tryhard. So I picked Vi.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1824834376/42766588?tab=overview
Didn't go so bad. I got a little nervous as I didn't expect the ranked and had a little rough of an early game. Missed a flash Q on the gragas and gave Nasus a double kill. Also lost first dragon. But fell back into Vi rhythm and all was well.
I REALLY like the warriors->BC->tank build for Vi. I melted gragas and nasus while still being able to burst the squishies. I'm not super tanky but have a strong shield and can get in the fight and do my damage before death if needed. Soloed Ashe near the end and still had half health left. She even ulted me.
Vi is really strong in this tank meta. Maybe even more so than before. She really thrives in a long drawn out fight with a leveled W.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1824834376/42766588?tab=overview
Didn't go so bad. I got a little nervous as I didn't expect the ranked and had a little rough of an early game. Missed a flash Q on the gragas and gave Nasus a double kill. Also lost first dragon. But fell back into Vi rhythm and all was well.
I REALLY like the warriors->BC->tank build for Vi. I melted gragas and nasus while still being able to burst the squishies. I'm not super tanky but have a strong shield and can get in the fight and do my damage before death if needed. Soloed Ashe near the end and still had half health left. She even ulted me.
Vi is really strong in this tank meta. Maybe even more so than before. She really thrives in a long drawn out fight with a leveled W.
It's not up in EUW yet, but the timing can be different for different servers.
Opened up the thread, skimmed this page...oh good!
Their Lee Sin kept smoothly performing Insec maneuvers on me. ._. Level 28 my ass. I never see consistent finesse like it until at least Plat. He sold his items when the match ended. Excellent match regardless.
Soraka was a pretty dang good support too and she's only Level 9.
There are so many smurfs in normals, and there are too many bots in ARAM. League is in such a bad spot for newcomers right now.
Hi guys, just made an account today after watching streams for the last month or so.
I know most of the terms and have a base understanding to get me started, think I need to read up on build orders to begin with at least. Any tips which aren't in the OP would be appreciated!
Edit: Oh, and should I use my free points etc. to pick up Teemo and one of Ashe/Sivir or just Ashe and Sivir (can only afford 2 atm).
Sivir can use her speedboost ult though, and do penetration damage through Q and W bounces. She also has the shield to protect her. Ashe has none of those -- E is 100% utility with a very long cooldown (not even bonus gold anymore), and W does not penetrate (and now double arrows don't have a shotgun effect).
Maybe if you say she's like Sivir without the mobility and AOE damage.
On a different note, one of the best League feelings is getting a popup that you got promoted from a ranked game, when you forgot you were even in a series.
Hi, welcome to the thread.
I think you might want to keep the free RP for a little bit longer since Ashe/Sivir etc. are really cheap champions in terms of IP. You should be able to get one of them after a couple of games.
I can't remember what is in the OP, but get your free Tristana + Tristana skin, Alistar + skin, Garen + skin from doing the youtube/twitter/facebook promotions if you haven't done it yet.
In the beginning you probably want to learn the characters mostly.
My best advice is just to play the game. Pick up the free champs that Riot gives away. There's info in the OP. Other than that, just play all the free week champions until you find someone you like and spend ip on them.
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