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Anyway, had one of my best matches just now. The game is so much fun when you have friendly team-mates who actually cooperate and shit. Everyone knows what he is doing, top doing not so good, mid helps out, us bot is being pushed Yi as a jungler is always there.
Also Morgana as Supp with defensive Runes and Masteries is amazingly good to play as!
She's horrible right now. I hope that she can cast her E without stopping and that it has some decent damage. Not lots of damage, but at least SOMETHING.
Lowering the mana cost (80 at rank one is DUMB for what it does) and letting her cast while moving would be great.
Proper damage scaling on her ult would be great too, I have no idea why they per-emptily nerfed it into the ground last time.
They said the changes are small though, so not sure how much they will do.
Her and Thresh had me (Alistar) and Ezreal pushed back to out turret just farming for like the first 10 minutes and a shitty little early trade that me and Ez took way too much damage from. We basically couldnt do anything but farm and have me spam E to keep us there until Amumu came down to releive a lil pressure. After that, we had full bars with some items and MF was useless from then on.
PhillipCostigan
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He can now put 6 points into his QWE and only has one point in R, so there's likely another level of damage coming.
Jayce is now old Karma. Hopefully his skills won't be as bad as old Karma. Her rank 6 spells dealt as much damage as regular rank 5 spells.
PhillipCostigan
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Orochinagis
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Gotta AA dont stop with Cait.
Hm, doesn't seem that bad to be honest. He will certainly be weaker than before by 7-10, but stronger 11+. Considering many Jayce's never bothered to rank his ult anyway maybe it could actually be a buff.
PhillipCostigan
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leblanc nerf seems acceptable tho chains were a pretty slim spell already so 55 width is gonna be painful
i don't understand if new cait passive replaces the old one or if it's an added effect. if it is it sounds pretty insane lategame, but i guess it's only one out of 5 attacks so not that crazy. maybe it'll be more impactful earlier then, getting the passive procs in lane will hit even harder
and uhh no idea about jayce, he seems nerfed from all the changes but at least they're interesting changes? seems like he'll take a lot longer to ramp up which i guess is ok.
i dunno, i don't like jayce...
i don't understand if new cait passive replaces the old one or if it's an added effect. if it is it sounds pretty insane lategame, but i guess it's only one out of 5 attacks so not that crazy. maybe it'll be more impactful earlier then, getting the passive procs in lane will hit even harder
and uhh no idea about jayce, he seems nerfed from all the changes but at least they're interesting changes? seems like he'll take a lot longer to ramp up which i guess is ok.
i dunno, i don't like jayce...
It should be added to the passive, or it wouldn't make sense. It's only bonus armor so I doubt it will be very impactful in lane, it removes 5 armor at most. It will probably be amazing mid/lategame though. If the enemy has bought a single armor item in midgame, the proc will be strong.
Wolf Akela
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It's added according to s@20.
Great Cait buff without making her laning OP again.
Great Cait buff without making her laning OP again.
NCR Redslayer
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When that Warwick rework comes out.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1843170599/202336775?tab=overview
Most fun game I've played in a while. 118 kills in 40 minutes. The dragon pit was a bloodbath. I think we hit 45 kills at the 12 minute mark iirc. Not sure if there is a way to check that.
More importantly tho, NEW TEASER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97A6iL0pqbo
Apparently it happens first time you die and only you can hear it
Most fun game I've played in a while. 118 kills in 40 minutes. The dragon pit was a bloodbath. I think we hit 45 kills at the 12 minute mark iirc. Not sure if there is a way to check that.
More importantly tho, NEW TEASER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97A6iL0pqbo
Apparently it happens first time you die and only you can hear it
Syph Medwes
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i forget, when WW was priority last split preseason, did he get nerfed or did other junglers get buffed?
They nerfed him and the enchantment that made him op in the same patch iirc, and they've nerfed the smite again since then. He's in a bad spot imo
Idk it sounds... gooey
Yeah in a terrible spot...with a top 10 win rate out of the jungle.
His kit is archaic and he needs to be changed to brought up to modern LoL standards for kit design, but let's not pretend he's objectively bad. There isn't anything preventing a player from picking him up and doing well right now.
In a tank heavy meta, a tanky champion who can neutralize the opposing team's tank buster has a lot value.
I mean, I'm not sure what about saying "imo" makes you think I'm making an objective statement but OK lol
Tank meta also means everybody has cc for his ult which does no damage now. Just my opinion. I just haven't seen one do anything at all. Plus he's prob the most boring champ in the game now
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But Sabrewulf.
Dreams-Visions
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I don't like it at all. Jayce is already a weak laner in this tank meta. Now its even more difficult for him to kill tanks before the laning phase ends. I'm not happy. He didn't need a nerf, and he didn't need an ultra-late game buff either. He need a slight early game buff if anything.
i don't think jayce needed any changes
he had clear early/mid strengths and weaknesses that were mostly defined by his item pickups
tear first? your damage is going to take a little to scale (but not long)
brut first? you've got the damage, grats, but have to be choosey with your mana.
he had clear early/mid strengths and weaknesses that were mostly defined by his item pickups
tear first? your damage is going to take a little to scale (but not long)
brut first? you've got the damage, grats, but have to be choosey with your mana.
Tear takes a very long time to be relevant on any champion. Jayce is pretty poop right now. Not strong enough early and super weak late, with a kit that is p. busted and provides no entry into the early or late game. To say that he doesn't need changes seems to ignore where the game is at. Without adequate waveclear Jayce lacks any defensive edge when he falls behind.
Dreams-Visions
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THIS.
As one of the resident Jayce players, any nerfs to his early game in particular are devastating. With these changes, a tear build makes him even less of a threat to an enemy top laner who is usually going to be some sort of tank (Irela, Jax, Nasus, Garen, etc.). He would also no longer be a threat to high damage dealing tops (Fiora, Trynd) because he can't trade with them very well. Going brutalizer build was never the most ideal for him anyway, especially with the build path change that goes to Ghostblade (which he doesn't want).
By the time he gets the items and levels he needs to be relevant, it won't be any easier for him to dispatch the enemy tank(s), so to me it feels like a straight up nerf to a champ that wasn't a problem to begin with. He was at best slightly above average.
I guess I'll go back to rushing Soul Reaver or something.
pjsalt
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*chogath scream*
Cho might be a bit strong. Not worth a ban IMO but still a fearsome laner.
Just tried maokai for the first time top lane. I actually felt good as a top laner for once. He will definitely be my go to if I have to top.
Since I'm playing ranked more, I'm trying to focus in on one or two champs for every role. I'm struggling with solid mid and jungle picks. I'm much better in the assassin meta as a jungler. I think Vi and Wukong and maybe Elise for jungle. Mid I've been talon and cassio. Tried pantheon to mixed success.
Just tried maokai for the first time top lane. I actually felt good as a top laner for once. He will definitely be my go to if I have to top.
Since I'm playing ranked more, I'm trying to focus in on one or two champs for every role. I'm struggling with solid mid and jungle picks. I'm much better in the assassin meta as a jungler. I think Vi and Wukong and maybe Elise for jungle. Mid I've been talon and cassio. Tried pantheon to mixed success.
Panth mid or jungle? I've been jungling with him and top as well with some good, and not so good results. i think the bad games were just me having bad games though.
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