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League of Legends |OT9| Stealing Abilities From Inferior MOBAs since 2009
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NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Give him Hot Rod,
Yeah, I'm a bit bummed about this. But he still does feel pretty strong this patch so it's probably deserved.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
I played against him as jayce and those roars are still spammed and hurt like gankplanks Q.
Stone Ocean
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55 mana isn't exactly not spammable
It's an impossible to dodge 315 damage nuke, fuck that shit
I haven't been afraid of Elise for a long, long time. Even when she was the best jungler, I think she was far less ridiculous than Sejuani is right now and Vi has been for a long time.
I think they're just really set on making him a jungler. His winrate in the jungle right now is pretty good, as you would suspect with the passive HP stacking and the new jungle item.
In the right hands she was deadly which was why she was hit hard (diamond and above she was super scary). But she was one of the tougher junglers to master. It's one of the things I really enjoyed about her. I never got bored of playing her. I wish they'd give her a little love.
Tizoc
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QTPIE's never ending struggle as Bard
http://www.twitch.tv/imaqtpie
http://www.twitch.tv/imaqtpie
Orochinagis
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I bought her a week before the big nerf and she was really powerful and difficult to master her two forms
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elise wasn't nearly as hard as people were making her out to be.
She kind of is. Sure, any idiot can mash buttons on the two forms and do some damage, land a cocoon and rappel when they want to most of the time, but the really scary Elises were played at a level way above that. She's tough to master. Not hard to PLAY, but hard to master.
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yea, sion is pretty dumb atm
i have to agree
other generalists like thresh or lee might have shit winrates too but i feel like they're at least really good at some stuff, even if there are much safer bets in like reksai or leona or whatever
elise seems like she's good at nothing, her damage is ehh, she can't tank, she doesn't have amazing cc or mobility, everything got nerfed and i feel like maybe rito should've chosen one or two and left her there until a rework.
yeah, at least playing her top or mid you had to deal with her awful base ad or whatever was going on with her impossibility to last hit
hard is weird, there's not that much of a great metric to determine that
like those four are mechanically difficult, but say, shaco, i'd say shaco is a pretty tough champion to be effective with because of how he needs to transition into a splitpusher as the game goes on and how he needs to make every gank count to snowball the game, which i guess is why his winrate goes up the higher the elo (he's like 55% on diamond i think?)
i'd say rengar is a bit like that, there's a lot of pressure in making his ults count and finding the routes and coordinating with his team
thresh too is a champion that requires pretty good mechanics cos at least in my experience the whole hook into lantern gank thing is not very easy to pull off, and all his spells are kind of weird skillshots, etc.
i'd def put ori in the highest tier possible tho, you learn something new every time you play ori and like watching faker play ori and demolish supposed counterpicks you can see how high her skill ceiling is
I was a heavy SC2 player too, man. Infestors made me hate playing online though and I started playing a lot less. I never went back after they added Swarm Hosts.
Stone Ocean
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What exactly is there about mastering Elise? She does not have half of many champions skill ceilings
You're managing different cooldowns on two different forms, melee and ranged attacks, two different % health attacks - one % missing, one % remaining, a rappel with a wonky targeting system, microing around your spiderlings, etc.
It goes on. Sure you can ignore a lot of that and just mash buttons for some good damage but the best Elise players were utilizing her kit to a scary degree.
edit: She's not smooth either. Someone like Lucian has very smooth transitions from ability to ability. Elise is more clunky. It's not as easy to use. Part of it is the different ability ranges I think.
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NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Give the rat some cheese and that should patch him right back up.
Ugh. Don't I know that one. I actually had to stop playing her for a long time even at her height because my internet was acting up. She is near impossible to play with any sort of network issues.
What's the respawn timer?
Terbinator
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The last one is clearly
Trypophobia
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why is shaco a girl
Terbinator
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The inspiring messages I get mid game from my friends
TBF it's hard to play a champion as shitty as Renekton well. Even during his previous LCs spikes he suffered from his >lvl9 fall-off and anyone with half a brain knows just to see the first 20mins out before womping and stomping.
Orochinagis
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I thought it was Jinx lol
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knowing u shaco would turn into a potted plant.
Orochinagis
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I still dont see a random guy gift a skin to anyone in my matches
AzureSkies
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Onett128 likes to randomly gift skins to players in post-game when he's drunk.
OnettHansen
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theres no explanation.
Wolf Akela
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Cass and Orianna are easier for me to play than the other two. I can do well with Cass and even bully her hard matchups. I can't hit anything with Zed Q, much less when shadows are involved.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Renekton just doesnt have anything good to be inherently useful lategame.
The inspiring messages I get mid game from my friends
there's also more of a "strategic" difficulty which i guess would be champions like bard or rengar or shen or karthus that require some sort of bigger planning rather than straight mechanical skill like azir or vayne or whatever
part of why i like ori so much is that she's got a bit of both types of difficulties
part of why i like ori so much is that she's got a bit of both types of difficulties
It wasn't enough. I still have infinite mana with flask start or early back for glacial+flask.
But 20% damage cut is massive. They should add a bonus 5 arm+mr shred to the fired E to balance this nerf out.
But more than likely, this nerf will probably go through and Sion will just become a mediocre top laner who can no longer trade with meta picks.
Jungle Sion will be best Sion. Just as I was going to give him a go too. Sorry, I may have cursed him.
Ori isn't really that hard to master in solo queue. Once you learn what she can do and her power spikes with specific items, you basically become good with her with no mechanical skill. It's important to know Ori doesn't spike with levels like other mid laners. She spikes with items.
E.g.
There's a difference between using ult-W on top of a carry to
- delete them or make them back off a fight and
- slightly damage them and lose the fight because the enemy front line engages, knowing you fucked up
E.g.
There's a difference between using ult-W on top of a carry to
- delete them or make them back off a fight and
- slightly damage them and lose the fight because the enemy front line engages, knowing you fucked up
I dunno I gave the Kennen I was facing a tough time. Went 2-0-2 to start, but their other lanes got pretty fed and the rest of our team couldn't keep up.
I wasn't even rly talking about Renekton though. Just joking around about the messages I get from friends. Didn't rly have anything to do with the champ.
Orochinagis
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Did Lizzy got a buff or something? An enemy Lizzy just destroyed my team with little effort and was really tank despite not having any defensive item outside zhonyas
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http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1764644138/45526970?tab=overview
talk about getting dumped on.
talk about getting dumped on.
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