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[bokn]

"If ALL loses to KBM and C9 beats KBM and C9 loses to NWS it's a tie for 2nd vs C9"

 

[Leezard]

Dimb made a good post a while back.

I dunno, I kinda agree after seeing this.

The mechanical level of play is definitely higher than NA, so I dunno about that.

Xerath actually got into the meta shortly after that game, so I'd argue that dimb was simply wrong there.

EU is inconsistent, but I don't think dimb actually explains why

 

[bokn]

"we shouldn't have wildcards at worlds"

lol.

 

[HORRORSHØW]

KABOOOM!!!!

 

[Sofo]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ Fuck this.

 

[Macattk15]

Holy shit. Just wow.

C9 has hope yet!

 

[Diprosalic]

I dunno, I kinda agree after seeing this.

beating a korean team almost perfectly is just luck?

 

[Iryx]

Go Kabum!

 

[CRS]

KABUM!

So excited for these guys. This is why we need the Wild Card teams. Just for moments like these.

 

[Macattk15]

KABUM!

So excited for these guys. This is why we need the Wild Card teams. Just for moments like these.

I agree. Dark Passage was shit though.

 

[Prototype Viktor]

telling ya they are the Team 8 without a calitrollz! They also have a ADC that stands in front too much

 

[Makareu]

I am laughing so hard right now. Mad props to Kabum.
Gonna be a long day !

 

[Kotetsu534]

Alliance were trying to run a comp that they aren't good at, presumably because they thought this would be a good match to show off in. Turns out that when you put Wickd on Kayle, he plays poorly, Froggen isn't a strong Fizz, and they can't execute the Twitch/Kayle combos like the Korean teams have done for months. Well played by Kabum. Their mid laner was excellent.

 

[Imperfected]

I would say the inconsistency of Europe (and to a lesser extent NA) is due to teams in both regions having this mistaken idea that they can carry one, two, or even three sub-par players on the backs of one or two star players. The result is that when those one or two hard-ass carries have a bad day, you no longer have a functional team.

NA had huge problems with this due to "legacy" players (Scarra, Reggie, Hotshot, etc.), and still haven't completely broken themselves of the habit. EU just seems to think they can throw whoever they want into bot-lanes, though, like it's fine if they're looking all Jersey Shore in their bot-lane because mid will carry, right?

And sometimes mid does carry, and it's all fine. And then sometimes mid doesn't carry, and it's like they don't even actually have a team anymore.

 

[Sofo]

Watching LCS being hosted on qtpie's channel is hilarious, lol.

 

[Diprosalic]

"we shouldn't have wildcards at worlds"

lol.

still rather have two more deserving teams.

 

[bokn]

The mechanical level of play is definitely higher than NA, so I dunno about that.

Xerath actually got into the meta shortly after that game, so I'd argue that dimb was simply wrong there.

EU is inconsistent, but I don't think dimb actually explains why

Kabum have been pretty good in lane throughout the tournament

It seems to me that they had the stars align and win every lane and dominated the game through that

Alliance were trying to run a comp that they aren't good at, presumably because they thought this would be a good match to show off in. Turns out that when you put Wickd on Kayle, he plays poorly, Froggen isn't a strong Fizz, and they can't execute the Twitch/Kayle combos like the Korean teams have done for months. Well played by Kabum. Their mid laner was excellent.

Yeah this too. I think they underestimated KaBooooom a lot

I'm still of the mind that KR twitch are the best

 

[dimb]

Alliance were trying to run a comp that they aren't good at, presumably because they thought this would be a good match to show off in. Turns out that when you put Wickd on Kayle, he plays poorly, Froggen isn't a strong Fizz, and they can't execute the Twitch/Kayle combos like the Korean teams have done for months. Well played by Kabum. Their mid laner was excellent.

Froggen is one of the best Fizz players in the world. We don't have to make excuses for Alliance.

 

[brian!]

 

[cHinzo]

Welp, no EU teams going to the play-offs. T_T

 

[Flare]

Rito's Official statement about Fnatic/Blue:

Here ya go

TL;DR: There was no bug in the Fnatic vs. OMG game. Due to a specific, intended interaction between the Homeguard enchantment and Recall, champions who successfully complete a recall will have the Homeguard enchantment on their boots trigger when they spawn in base. The confusion arose because of an unlisted—but intended and well-known —interaction whereby damage doesn’t interrupt a recall in the last moments before the animation completes. The outcome of the Fnatic vs. OMG game stands.

 

[bokn]

NJWS have also advanced, now that ALL have lost to KBM.

I doubt that they'd let C9 win though, after ALL have shamed them.

Rito's Official statement about Fnatic/Blue:

Here ya go

well duh

 

[Kotetsu534]

Eh, I'm not making excuses. It's well known that Alliance has limited strategic depth. Wickd's champion poll is comically small, and has always been. For some reason, he'd been getting Irelia regularly before this match. I'm being a bit unfair on Froggen's Fizz - but you can't deny he lost lane and ended up making desperate plays (that engage at dragon was "what?" worthy). He likes to control games (or, at least, Alliance needs him to control games) and Fizz doesn't do that. Their comp needed well executed teamfights to win, and they never really got to close to pulling it off (the fights they did win were usually more due to Minerva and Danagorn making mistakes).

 

[bokn]

Froggen is one of the best Fizz players in the world. We don't have to make excuses for Alliance.

Is Wickd the best Kayle player in the world tho

 

[Prototype Viktor]

who cares if it was a joke. Someone mentioned Viktor during the game! Riot knows it exist still!

Spoiler

and still after 2 years not even put out any Viktor changes they promised even on PBE

 

[dimb]

Is Wickd the best Kayle player in the world tho

Can anyone be the best Kayle right now? These teams are picking Kayle because they're too scared to pick anything else top.

who cares if it was a joke. Someone mentioned Viktor during the game! Riot knows it exist still!

Spoiler

and still after 2 years not even put out any Viktor changes they promised even on PBE

I can tell you don't play the game.

 

[Sofo]

who cares if it was a joke. Someone mentioned Viktor during the game! Riot knows it exist still!

Spoiler

and still after 2 years not even put out any Viktor changes they promised even on PBE

Kappa?

 

[Leezard]

and still after 2 years not even put out any Viktor changes they promised even on PBE

Uh, about that

 

[bokn]

I was always surprised teams rarely banned Wickd out. He seemed so uncomfortable on Kayle.

I'm sure C9 took notes that game. ALL are going to have a very tough tiebreaker... if they even get one.


GAME: another TALON counterpick into ZED again? We have yet to see this work. Show us something I guess, Dade.

 

[Sofo]

I was always surprised teams rarely banned Wickd out. He seemed so uncomfortable on Kayle.

I'm sure C9 took notes that game. ALL are going to have a very tough tiebreaker... if they even get one.


GAME: another TALON counterpick into ZED again? We have yet to see this work. Show us something I guess, Dade.

Someone commented to me that Dade is known for his Talon? idk about that. But xPeke isn't known for his Zed particularly.

 

[Macattk15]

who cares if it was a joke. Someone mentioned Viktor during the game! Riot knows it exist still!

Spoiler

and still after 2 years not even put out any Viktor changes they promised even on PBE

You realize Viktor is a lot better right now on Live right? They did change him.

 

[Leezard]

The Lucian respect ban though.

GAME: another TALON counterpick into ZED again? We have yet to see this work. Show us something I guess, Dade.

Yeah, it's going to be interesting.

 

[Prototype Viktor]

Can anyone be the best Kayle right now? These teams are picking Kayle because they're too scared to pick anything else top.

I can tell you don't play the game.

You realize Viktor is a lot better right now on Live right? They did change him.

i couldn't tell you the last time i played Live server. And when was the last time he got actually changed? 3.xx something. There was rioters talking about his staff changes (the thing i was talking about) ages ago before even trinkets

nvm just saw something of a change in the 4.17 thing, trust me to not start the client up since right before worlds

 

[bokn]

prototype viktor only plays on tournament server

 

[Prototype Viktor]

prototype viktor on plays on tournament server

PBE almost exclusively this year

 

[Leezard]

Viktor is ridiculously good right now

 

[bokn]

PBE almost exclusively this year

viktor TU/and kit update was on last PBE cycle tho.

and that Zed solo on Talon
still not convinced

 

[Macattk15]

Viktor is ridiculously good right now

Indeed. Might even call him OP right now.

 

[Sofo]

i couldn't tell you the last time i played Live server. And when was the last time he got actually changed? 3.xx something. There was rioters talking about his staff changes (the thing i was talking about) ages ago before even trinkets

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-update/viktor-machine-herald

Though maybe you don't consider this a deep enough of a change. ;o

 

[Prototype Viktor]

viktor TU/and kit update was on last PBE cycle tho.

i've been playing Path of Exile hardcore all month and having the stream going while i played. much easier to do then playing and getting my league fix. Tho i did get a good 2 days out of that modified Dominion map

I'm more then happy that Viktor is better now and Prototype Viktor is still his only skin that matters

 

[bokn]

I have to say, I think the pick+b variety this worlds has been better than any other year (dont remember season1)

 

[Sofo]

As a person that plays Thresh but is nowhere near good, that Heart blind hook was just <3

 

[Prototype Viktor]

i think Cyanide will choke on a crucial kick

also League will be back to perfect whenever Cho comes back to relevancy (in pro scene)

 

[Leezard]

This is really grim for Fnatic. Some good plays, but Dade knows how to solo kill Zed with Talon.

 

[bokn]

This is really grim for Fnatic. Some good plays, but Dade knows how to solo kill Zed with Talon.

IE + QSS is a GG for that matchup.

Farewell Fnatic. :<

and ohboy i hope white learn how to beat blue

 

[Nekofrog]

if you get lee sin, DO something with it. he is going to bring nothing to the table if you just play passive

if you are 2 inhibs down and they are pushing the mid inhib turret, HARD ENGAGE FFS BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT WIN IF YOU DON'T

 

[bokn]

C9 have went all in on the midgame with them picks

 

[Sofo]

I hate Rumble and that particular Rumble skin. It just looks so clunky ._. (that's the point I guess)

 

[Leezard]

C9 seems to be holding out decently here.

NWS still has the initiative though.

 

[bokn]

Janna is a great pick against twitch with all that free movement speed