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League of Legends World Championships 2015 |OCT 1-OCT 31|

Nekofrog

Banned
She can't really find and kill a squishy when there's a morgana with black shield that would block her stun and a lulu who would ult anyone.

Irelia isn't really a tank so building a second damage item instead of a tank item would blow her up in team fights. Building a tank item would delay her power spike after the trinity so. I dunno she has to snowball if she wants to be relevant all throughout the game.

wut

she hits her powerspike at trinity. she can afford to build tank after it and get a second damage item as 3rd or 4th and be just fine.
 

killatopak

Gold Member
wut

she hits her powerspike at trinity. she can afford to build tank after it and get a second damage item as 3rd or 4th and be just fine.

She hits it but you see all their games tend to go to late game so after mid game she wouldn't really be relevant anymore at the super late game stage. They have to end early on. She's not a bad champ. Just a bad pick at this comp.

Edit: 3 kills on steak already. He's super relevant right now which is good. This makes her transition to late game much much better.

Edit: sigh. he's late to team fights. Her being fed doesn't matter if she's not in the right fights.
 
They have the only Drag that truly matters and neither team is going to realistically get to 5 stacks. Trying to take Drags at this point is just giving carte blanche for Origen to burn Baron down

Flash Wolves had plenty of chances to get dragons when Origen weren't around. Had enough vision too.

They just didn't bother to get it for free. They could be at 3 now.
 

Ambition

Member
And this is why Lulu is perma banned
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Newt

Member
Deals loads of dmg and near unkillable, that's disgusting. Nothing strange about well supported adcs not being hard to play.
Oh, I thought you meant Niels was playing really well or something.

All of these games are being carried by the ADCs. Who's the one who said ADCs aren't relevant anymore?
It's not ADC being irrelevant that's the issue, it's that ADCs have very little independence right now.

Early game, there's no room to be aggressive in botlane. The meta caters to braindead farming, basically what Niels did for the first 25 minutes of the game.
 

Nekofrog

Banned
She hits it but you see all their games tend to go to late game so after mid game she wouldn't really be relevant anymore at the super late game stage. They have to end early on. She's not a bad champ. Just a bad pick at this comp.

Edit: 3 kills on steak already. He's super relevant right now which is good. This makes her transition to late game much much better.

Edit: sigh. he's late to team fights. Her being fed doesn't matter if she's not in the right fights.

in pro plays a lot of it falls on the player as well as the champion. you can be fed out of your mind but never in position to take advantage of it.
 

Neol

Member
Don't fancy OG over SKT though reaching Top 4 is an achievement by itself considering their initial expectations.

For sure.

Everyone's expecting SKT1 to faceroll everyone no problem. Its just nice to see a non-asian team get out of groups especially upsets like Origen.
 

killatopak

Gold Member
Oh, I thought you meant Niels was playing really well or something.


It's not ADC being irrelevant that's the issue, it's that ADCs have very little independence right now.

Early game, there's no room to be aggressive in botlane. The meta caters to braindead farming, basically what Niels did for the first 25 minutes of the game.

you have a point there but lane swaps make this a lot easier to work with. To be fair, you can't really do it in solo q. I feel that Riot doesn't want the adc to be independent anyway. It's either early game bully and late game noodle or vice versa. Those champs that are mediocre the whole game seems to be the healthy champs in riot's head. Plus those tp ganks really hurts them right now.

yeah he was horrible.


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lol
Literally no one

Having no agency until late game =/= not being relevant
heh. you should go to reddit.
 

Leezard

Member
Don't fancy OG over SKT though reaching Top 4 is an achievement by itself considering their initial expectations.

Yeah, SKT is probably gonna roll straight over OG. (edit for clarity)

OG looked quite sloppy this series and SKT are looking really dominant.
 

Newt

Member
you have a point there but lane swaps make this a lot easier to work with. To be fair, you can't really do it in solo q. I feel that Riot doesn't want the adc to be independent anyway. It's either early game bully and late game noodle or vice versa. Those champs that are mediocre the whole game seems to be the healthy champs in riot's head. Plus those tp ganks really hurts them right now.
What? Laneswaps exacerbate this problem even more.
 
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