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Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD |OT| Tingling with HD excitement...only 398 Rupees
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If this happens, there's a lot of stupid padding I hope gets taken out of the main quest
Whiskeymatt
Member
I'll pass.
I see that term thrown around a lot, but honestly I don't really think they come even close to TWW's padding.
-The bug-stuff/wolf-sections that happen before the first three dungeons wear you down by the last one. But a couple of the bugs were necessary for introducing the environments/characters and aren't necessarily that bad.
-Some of the Lost Woods stuff with Skull Kid was tedious.
-The Sky chart/symbol stuff maybe before the City in the Sky maybe, but this didn't really bother me. And it didn't really last too long either.
Unless you think a Zelda game should just be dungeon-dungeon-dungeon, TP is not that bad.
oh, i didn't know about that. i just did it because i thought i had never done it before. actually the hide and seek stuff was something i thought i had started, but abandoned in 2003 or 2004.
yeah i got to a point right after tower of the gods where i was just checking everything out and letting curiosity get the better of me. it was pretty great. so much was unfortunately rushed though, and i think this will be the last time they touch this game, which is unfortunate.
one thing i didn't touch upon was the design of the game, and i think it's clear they were still in a oot mindset. the puzzles are kind of hypercharged oot puzzles. pushing blocks? well now you push triangle blocks! hookshot and iron boots? now you must combine them! but there aren't a whole lot of wholly new tricks in the game. the ones that are were incredibly minor, although they worked incredibly well. there's no one telling you that you have to destroy the big wooden barricades with an enemy's sword, and you might not get that phantom ganon's sword points to the right way.
i feel like it's more of the final evolution of oot's puzzles than tp was. actually, tp felt like it introduced a ton of new ideas like the spinner, fuckin' magnets, the double clawshot (the almighty double clawshot), and the old ball 'n chain. the puzzles there were a huge step up over nearly a decade of similar ideas. tww's best addition was the way the boomerang worked.
there are a lot of minor things to improve in tp. i think they learned how to make the tear quests work in skyward sword, where it's a test of your knowledge of the level design instead of your introduction to a town area. there are probably a lot of things they would have you skip, and removing text prompts and giving rupees a greater purpose would certainly help. it doesn't feel like there's anything honestly missing from the game though. whatever problems they had, majora's mask, twilight princess, and skyward sword felt like the design choices were deliberate and made without time constraints (although that's probably not true of everything except ss).
The best pacing in Zelda is when you're not in a dungeon and they tell you to go somewhere or to talk to someone, and you get something genuinely useful/interesting. In OOT, they tell you "before you can enter this dungeon, can you go get this thing?" plenty of times, but nine times out-of-ten, it's stuff like the Hookshot, or a song, or the Lens of Truth. Meaningful stuff you can actually use. It's either that, or really critical or interesting story stuff.
In TP, there's the stupid bug sections which drag on forever. There's long moments of "go do this random kinda meaningless task with these statues, or go talk to this doctor guy for some reason, go to this pointless town full of cats" etc. Alot of it could've easily just been sidequests, and that would've been fine. You could then choose to engage or not engage with that stuff if you want. And when you do it, you would feel rewarded with a heart piece or maybe a neat little item you wouldn't otherwise have. But no, they felt this stuff was so critical that it just had to be part of the main quest.
SS had the same problem.
I used to be bad at these but I worked out the trick to them and I can do them relatively quickly. I basically do a few at a time so the next time I venture to the cabana I'll probably finish the last four off.
What I do is complete the bottom row and then the row above. Then I make sure the top left most piece and the piece below it are in the right place. So basically
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The last six pieces are just a case of mixing around until you solved it. The top right corner is always blank.
Yeah, with the exception of the Deku Leaf, WW's items and puzzles really feel like they are redos of OoT, especially the Earth Temple's mirror mechanic, which might as well have been the Spirit Temple part 2. And, in general, the dungeons are simple one-room affairs that end relatively quickly, with few dungeon-spanning puzzles like you see in TP and SS. The only major way it differentiates itself from OoT is in the partner mechanic, which sadly isn't explored enough (and is a little tedious to manage).
I agree that TP had really neat dungeon ideas and items that broke from the OoT tropes and felt like real innovations. The spinner and double clawshots alone deserve entire Zelda games devoted to them; it's brilliant how they added so much speed and verticality. And the dungeon designs (despite some criticism that the are simply go right, go left, go to the middle route affairs) actually have a long-running theme/puzzle you must work on, which was pretty cool.
I agree that whatever problems TP and SS have are clearly design decisions that didn't pan out, while TWW is unfortunately a game clipped of its ambition. Without even knowing the development history behind it, you can sense moments were resources/time just fell short. They are the "wuhhh, huh?" moments. Going to the Greatfish Isle to come up empty-handed, the cutscene where Jabun gives you a pearl just because the KORL asked, the mini-dungeons, characters just outright handing you vital items with barely any legwork, etc. In spite of that, it's still a much better game than maybe it should be on paper (I still like it a whole lot), but it's sad this is probably going to be the final word on a game that had so much more potential.
But some of that stuff fleshes out the world and leads to interesting gameplay scenarios. Defending the carriage from attack for example, or fighting through the desert camps of bokoblins before Arbiter's Grounds, or the boss fight with King Bulbin on the bridge were all things that gave some diversity to the game, and weren't tedious at all. Hell, you phrasing the western shootout as "go to this pointless town full of cats" really diminishes what (to me) was a cool, inspired action setpiece.
I think that SS went too far with some of this stuff (escort mission especially), but TP had more hits than misses. And, unlike SS, it didn't feel intentionally game-y; it added to the narrative and characters of Hyrule.
That was all one arc though, you might have seperated the tasks, but they are still, by and large, the very same "mission". It's not like the entire game was like that. I agree on the bugs part, but other than that TP was was really a game of Dungeon>Quest>Dungeon>Quest, etc. And no dungeon played like any other in the game, ditto for the quests.
I'd buy SS and TP.
I would appreciate HD remakes of any of my old favorite games heh.
As long as the proper effort is put into making them a streamlined experience, then I have no objections.
As long as the proper effort is put into making them a streamlined experience, then I have no objections.
timetokill
Banned
Are you talking about the Link on Red Lions figurine? I got that before I beat the game.
Yeah I think that I just have to wait another day after completing the rest of them to get it.
The Mana Legend
Banned
No thanks. TP is way too fucking long with nothing at all interesting about it.
Skyward Sword might be way too long with lots of filler, but the dungeons are the best in the series, and the world is a lot more interesting than TP's.
My 3d zelda remains:
Ocarina/MM > skyward sword > wind waker > TP
WW came close to beating ocarina, but the two biggest flaws for me were too great - the lack of challenge (which hero mode doesn't rectify) making items seem valueless and the general feeling that it's incomplete.
SS feels like a good balance between TP and SS, while mostly busy work, it did keep up the interest and pacing. I simply prefer the big over world style. The main flaw for me is that it really should have had more discoverable 'Islands' in the sky. If the exploration up there were more like wind waker, it would be near perfect for what it was trying to be.
TP is a great epic, but the beginning of the game feels way too long and a lot of the busy work between dungeons didn't feel fun. I'd have to replay to judge properly though.
Ocarina/MM > skyward sword > wind waker > TP
WW came close to beating ocarina, but the two biggest flaws for me were too great - the lack of challenge (which hero mode doesn't rectify) making items seem valueless and the general feeling that it's incomplete.
SS feels like a good balance between TP and SS, while mostly busy work, it did keep up the interest and pacing. I simply prefer the big over world style. The main flaw for me is that it really should have had more discoverable 'Islands' in the sky. If the exploration up there were more like wind waker, it would be near perfect for what it was trying to be.
TP is a great epic, but the beginning of the game feels way too long and a lot of the busy work between dungeons didn't feel fun. I'd have to replay to judge properly though.
ss's dungeons were fine- by no means bad in comparison to most of mm's, tww's or even oot's. but the puzzles were basically how your motion-controlled weapon affected the enivornment, instead of implementing motion controls into solving puzzles themselves (like zack and wiki's approach). it was standard zelda with a new zelda coating. very bizarre. it also has a great final dungeon which i honestly find to be one of the best in the series.
compared to tp? nah, twilight princess has phenomenal level design. each one has a great atmosphere and presentation, memorable boss fights, and unique twists to the formula. it also has city in the sky, which was a two-hour epic capped with a fight in the sky against a dragon. fucking rad.
a remake of that could clean up some of the intro stuff, adjust the hint system, remove some of the prompts, add miiverse, and maybe offer some sort of quest (like a nintendo gallery thing), and it would be a more streamlined experience, but the game doesn't need a whole lot of extra work like tww did (and frankly still does).
compared to tp? nah, twilight princess has phenomenal level design. each one has a great atmosphere and presentation, memorable boss fights, and unique twists to the formula. it also has city in the sky, which was a two-hour epic capped with a fight in the sky against a dragon. fucking rad.
a remake of that could clean up some of the intro stuff, adjust the hint system, remove some of the prompts, add miiverse, and maybe offer some sort of quest (like a nintendo gallery thing), and it would be a more streamlined experience, but the game doesn't need a whole lot of extra work like tww did (and frankly still does).
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Put me in the camp that Wind Waker is probably the worst of the 3D console Zeldas. It's still a good game, but replaying it just cements my opinion that almost everything it does (in terms of gameplay and design) has been done better in other Zeldas. It really does have the most forgettable, rushed feeling dungeons in the 3D series, something both Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword avoid by having wonderfully designed dungeons. Replaying Twilight Princess in Dolphin a couple of years ago, and (almost finishing) a Dolphin replay of Skyward Sword over the last couple of months, gave me a massive appreciation for the things they did right.
Skyward Sword is a weird game, and its filler is really obnoxious, but it puts puzzle solving right at the forefront (if at the cost of free adventuring). It hinges a lot of enjoyment on how much you enjoy the motion controls, and if you do there's a really great layer of player driven interaction and puzzling in almost everything you do (exploring/puzzles/combat/etc). Ani is right in that it's less Zack & Wiki using tools that happen to be motion controlled to solve complex puzzles, and more the act of using motion controls is the puzzle, but I don't consider that a bad thing. That was just Skyward Sword's vibe, even if it did make/break the game for players.
Twilight Princess, on the other hand, might even be my favourite of the 3D games. The filler, in my opinion, isn't really all that bad for most of the game. There's some padding stretches, and the overworld is bare bones, but it almost always gives you something to do. It's dungeons are easily my favourite. Each has a really distinct visual theme, excellent use of the dungeon item, and proper puzzle solving. And each finishes with a fantastic, if painfully easy, boss fight. It's a surprisingly big game with a lot of traditional Zelda diversity, and I think really nails the concept of being a sequel to Ocarina of time, thematically at least.
Wind Waker just constantly feels like it's missing something to me. Except in the presentation, which is glorious. Like a game full of ideas that were, for either time or talent resources, never fully explored amidst an unfinished game. I do have a lot of respect for the Zelda team for making it though, because coming off the back of Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, making a Zelda game that was set on a sprawling ocean littered with islands was a refreshing change for the series.
Skyward Sword is a weird game, and its filler is really obnoxious, but it puts puzzle solving right at the forefront (if at the cost of free adventuring). It hinges a lot of enjoyment on how much you enjoy the motion controls, and if you do there's a really great layer of player driven interaction and puzzling in almost everything you do (exploring/puzzles/combat/etc). Ani is right in that it's less Zack & Wiki using tools that happen to be motion controlled to solve complex puzzles, and more the act of using motion controls is the puzzle, but I don't consider that a bad thing. That was just Skyward Sword's vibe, even if it did make/break the game for players.
Twilight Princess, on the other hand, might even be my favourite of the 3D games. The filler, in my opinion, isn't really all that bad for most of the game. There's some padding stretches, and the overworld is bare bones, but it almost always gives you something to do. It's dungeons are easily my favourite. Each has a really distinct visual theme, excellent use of the dungeon item, and proper puzzle solving. And each finishes with a fantastic, if painfully easy, boss fight. It's a surprisingly big game with a lot of traditional Zelda diversity, and I think really nails the concept of being a sequel to Ocarina of time, thematically at least.
Wind Waker just constantly feels like it's missing something to me. Except in the presentation, which is glorious. Like a game full of ideas that were, for either time or talent resources, never fully explored amidst an unfinished game. I do have a lot of respect for the Zelda team for making it though, because coming off the back of Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, making a Zelda game that was set on a sprawling ocean littered with islands was a refreshing change for the series.
Opinions, opinions ... For me it's on the same level as OoT. Incredible game.
I prefer the art direction of WW to both TP and SS though.
It felt so strange playing TP where all the colors suggested a dusty dead atmosphere. Even the lake and riversides looked dreary.
Coming from the extraordinarily colorful previous Zelda games it just felt odd that even Link's green tunic looked like it was dipped in elbow grease before he put it on. lol
It felt so strange playing TP where all the colors suggested a dusty dead atmosphere. Even the lake and riversides looked dreary.
Coming from the extraordinarily colorful previous Zelda games it just felt odd that even Link's green tunic looked like it was dipped in elbow grease before he put it on. lol
I just love the feeling of being on the great sea, sailing the big waves, watching the weather change, traveling from island to island, and playing within this charming world that Nintendo created in Wind Waker. It is unique among 3D Zelda games. No other 3D Zelda gives me those same warm and fuzzy feelings. SS comes close with flying through the sky but it doesn't feel quite the same way. I agree that technically WW is not the best 3D Zelda and it is possibly near the bottom. But from a practical fun factor point of view, which to me is the most important point of view, I like it the best personally.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Do we have any idea how much longer the special bundle will be available?
Looking at the leaked Gamestop Black Friday flyer I'm kinda worried there aren't gonna be any crazy good Wii U deals and I'd like to grab the Zelda console if available.
Do you think there will still be Zelda bundles around Black Friday?
Looking at the leaked Gamestop Black Friday flyer I'm kinda worried there aren't gonna be any crazy good Wii U deals and I'd like to grab the Zelda console if available.
Do you think there will still be Zelda bundles around Black Friday?
Who can say one way or the other honestly? Does entirely depends on how many people feel compelled to pick up a WiiU and how many bundles Nintendo manufactured and shipped.
Refreshment.01
Member
In terms of mechanics the sailing is very well executed. But it all falls down due to the game not having interesting land masses to explore. The ocean feels like a blue layered void with some grotos to fall down into.
A problem with the Zelda team is that when they come up with a solid mechanic or idea there's a good chance it might not come up in the following game. Imagine Wind Waker sailing returning in a similar overworld to the one in Adventure of Link.
In relation to the SS comparison. I think is less bad than WW since the forest, volcano and desert are quite big and open areas to explore. Skyloft (while not close to Clock Town) was a a bit more interesting than Wind Fall i think.And you got that little side quest that defined the inhabitants better.
Mentioning "fun", SS has the WW beaten also i think since it has the most interesting control method and setup.
Hobbestetrician
Member
I really wish there was a fortune teller-like person from Twilight Princess in this game that could give you an idea where Heart Pieces are located. I am one Piece short and have seemingly gone over every Piece twice and can't find what one I am missing.
Edit: Found it! Didn't realize you got a second piece from
, thought you only got one from the Treasure Chart they give you.
Edit: Found it! Didn't realize you got a second piece from
the couple on Windfall Island that you set up on a date
Completed it, not yet 100% but getting there.
I feel all discussion of TWW must begin with its presentation. There are very few games with such a unique, consistent and simply beautiful look and feel, a perfect marriage of graphics, animation and character. No other Zelda has been anywhere near as successful in this department. Back when the game first appeared, there was a small boom of celshaded imitators -- if only they'd had anywhere near the level of style and art direction of TWW, celshading might have been as huge as it deserves to be.
I must say, some of the lighting and shading, esp. on Link's model, was significantly 'flatter' in the GameCube version, which therefore had an even more consistent look. Of course, this is compensated richly by the HD resolution.
Content-wise, let's just say that it's obvious TWW was only the third 3D Zelda and that TP and SS took some things - mainly the dungeon design, variety of items (though the leaf is fantastic), between-dungeon content and combat - to higher levels. (I agree with AniHawk that TP has the best dungeons overall, but SS is no slouch and both were clearly built with the dungeons as a primary focus). TWW really has only two, maybe three dungeons that are up there with Zelda's best, with only a few truly inspired puzzles and boss battles that are mostly just okay.
Sidequest-wise, I do like TWW better than most (I actually think SS is the best one in this regard, though ike TWW and perhaps MM it suffers from the problem AniHawk described: assignments that would have been great sidequests but are actually mandatory). WIndfall is amongst the better towns in the series: large and varied enough but not too big to overwhelm. Sailing also remains the best way the series has managed to emulate the sense of adventure and freedom that, in truth, only the very first Zelda game really had. Still, none of the islands - while fun and varied - ever quite become the mini-dungeons they should have been (unlike the best optional content in TP). Had they been that, TWW would have become a spin on the franchise that would have been as successfully realized as it is unique.
As it stands, it's still the best-looking Zelda with the weakest content. It's all relative, of course: there's still plenty to do. And it is giving me high hopes for the dedicated Wii U Zelda: it has set a standard for how good a HD Zelda can look even with only a fraction of the polygons the Wii U should be able to handle, while talk by Aonuma about increased freedom has me dreaming of a more fleshed-out version of the Great Sea (or some variation thereof).
I feel all discussion of TWW must begin with its presentation. There are very few games with such a unique, consistent and simply beautiful look and feel, a perfect marriage of graphics, animation and character. No other Zelda has been anywhere near as successful in this department. Back when the game first appeared, there was a small boom of celshaded imitators -- if only they'd had anywhere near the level of style and art direction of TWW, celshading might have been as huge as it deserves to be.
I must say, some of the lighting and shading, esp. on Link's model, was significantly 'flatter' in the GameCube version, which therefore had an even more consistent look. Of course, this is compensated richly by the HD resolution.
Content-wise, let's just say that it's obvious TWW was only the third 3D Zelda and that TP and SS took some things - mainly the dungeon design, variety of items (though the leaf is fantastic), between-dungeon content and combat - to higher levels. (I agree with AniHawk that TP has the best dungeons overall, but SS is no slouch and both were clearly built with the dungeons as a primary focus). TWW really has only two, maybe three dungeons that are up there with Zelda's best, with only a few truly inspired puzzles and boss battles that are mostly just okay.
Sidequest-wise, I do like TWW better than most (I actually think SS is the best one in this regard, though ike TWW and perhaps MM it suffers from the problem AniHawk described: assignments that would have been great sidequests but are actually mandatory). WIndfall is amongst the better towns in the series: large and varied enough but not too big to overwhelm. Sailing also remains the best way the series has managed to emulate the sense of adventure and freedom that, in truth, only the very first Zelda game really had. Still, none of the islands - while fun and varied - ever quite become the mini-dungeons they should have been (unlike the best optional content in TP). Had they been that, TWW would have become a spin on the franchise that would have been as successfully realized as it is unique.
As it stands, it's still the best-looking Zelda with the weakest content. It's all relative, of course: there's still plenty to do. And it is giving me high hopes for the dedicated Wii U Zelda: it has set a standard for how good a HD Zelda can look even with only a fraction of the polygons the Wii U should be able to handle, while talk by Aonuma about increased freedom has me dreaming of a more fleshed-out version of the Great Sea (or some variation thereof).
Correct. You have to remember that it's a zoom camera, not a rotating vertical camera. It'll be fine.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
So I just bought the private oasis...every guide says I have to grapple the switch in the middle but the grappling hook icon is greyed out...what am I doing wrong?
Just finished Tower of the Gods, man I thought I was playing good games this gen, and this comes along...
The music, the sense of adventure and exploration, the people, it's just freakin amazing.
I skipped all the Wii Zelda's , cause I really hate motion controls, but damn, this is really on another level.
Nothing feels illogical so far, the combat is amazing fun.
I did play the Cube version, but quit at the Tower of Gods, I can't even remember why.
I even have my copy, with Ocarina of time with it, man I feel dumb now.
I think Im finally understanding what they meant with Nintendo magic, from back in the day.
So glad I sprung for the CE on this one.
I know it's frivolous posting, but I mean this thing of wanting to play more, of just listing to the music, just sailing around, and just looking at Link's face and everything.
This is want I want out of next gen! Not now already, not with such an old game. =)
Amazing game, making me think of going back and playing Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess, and just putting up with motion controls.
The music, the sense of adventure and exploration, the people, it's just freakin amazing.
I skipped all the Wii Zelda's , cause I really hate motion controls, but damn, this is really on another level.
Nothing feels illogical so far, the combat is amazing fun.
I did play the Cube version, but quit at the Tower of Gods, I can't even remember why.
I even have my copy, with Ocarina of time with it, man I feel dumb now.
I think Im finally understanding what they meant with Nintendo magic, from back in the day.
So glad I sprung for the CE on this one.
I know it's frivolous posting, but I mean this thing of wanting to play more, of just listing to the music, just sailing around, and just looking at Link's face and everything.
This is want I want out of next gen! Not now already, not with such an old game. =)
Amazing game, making me think of going back and playing Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess, and just putting up with motion controls.
I really gotta ask...what is amazing about the combat? You're really only hitting A to hit enemies with the same swing every time or sometimes you press A to dodge and then auto attack.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
This game kinda ends on a down note
"This is the only world that your ancestors were able to leave you. Please forgive us" DAMN
What makes it fun for me is the movement and animation.
It's not the same way like a God of War is fun.
Porcile
Member
The whole game world is pretty tragic and downbeat. It starts on a total downer with the backstory tapestry at the start, continues through the game
Hyrule frozen underwater
other than the withered Deku Tree's
With the removal of the Tingle Tuner it is odd
that there is no ingame mention of the Tingle Statues. I've scoured around and I can find no hint of them and reading about it online others seems to be in the same boat. Most seem to conclude that Nintendo are relying on Miiverse to spread the word about them. I've done my part and posted clues of their locations and hopefully others will do that same.
I wonder if the Legendary Pages are still obtainable somehow
i always thought that was a reference to real life climate change/ rising sea levels .
I was going to make an entire topic out of this, but don't really have enough time to do it justice. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that one of the dungeons cut from wind waker and put into TP must have been the Temple of Time, and that it was in a fairly advanced state.
It's the dungeon you get the dominion rod in, which is so obviously missing from this game for the reasons you just mentioned.
It would fit in perfectly with the sunken hyrule, and seems to be kind of thrown into twilight princess. The dominion rod is even less utilized than the spinner in that game, and the temple of time is put in a random spot that is absolutely not congruent with Ocarina, whereas they actually modeled a huge area of undersea hyrule, but ended up with a straight corridor to Gannon's Tower.
Then there's this guy, who looks much more like he belongs in Wind Waker than TP.
I was going to make an entire topic out of this, but don't really have enough time to do it justice. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that one of the dungeons cut from wind waker and put into TP must have been the Temple of Time, and that it was in a fairly advanced state.
It's the dungeon you get the dominion rod in, which is so obviously missing from this game for the reasons you just mentioned.
It would fit in perfectly with the sunken hyrule, and seems to be kind of thrown into twilight princess. The dominion rod is even less utilized than the spinner in that game, and the temple of time is put in a random spot that is absolutely not congruent with Ocarina, whereas they actually modeled a huge area of undersea hyrule, but ended up with a straight corridor to Gannon's Tower.
Then there's this guy, who looks much more like he belongs in Wind Waker than TP.
good points all around. it's strange that they mapped it to a wind waker music thing from the beginning though. you'd think that's when they'd introduce such an item. it's such a cumbersome way of doing things too.
m.i.s.
Banned
I don't know if this has already been posted but this is probably one of the best -- if not the best -- in-depth review I've seen of WW. The review is fairly recent from 25 July 2012. It discusses the GCN version but the criticisms and comments may apply equally to the Wii U HD remake.
Matthewmatosis Wind Waker Review
I like his criticism about some of the more superfluous aspects of the game overworld. Eg "pointless filler" like the cyclops, two, three, four, five, six eyed reef. I would have preferred a smaller but a more densely packed overworld.
Personally, I would also have preferred just retreiving and powering up the master sword and going straight onwards to shatter the force-field and onwards to confront Ganon without the tri-foce fetch quest.
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Anyway, will give this remake a whirl, despite my misgivings about the graphics.
Matthewmatosis Wind Waker Review
I like his criticism about some of the more superfluous aspects of the game overworld. Eg "pointless filler" like the cyclops, two, three, four, five, six eyed reef. I would have preferred a smaller but a more densely packed overworld.
Personally, I would also have preferred just retreiving and powering up the master sword and going straight onwards to shatter the force-field and onwards to confront Ganon without the tri-foce fetch quest.
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Anyway, will give this remake a whirl, despite my misgivings about the graphics.
Just picked up the Wind Waker WiiU bundle. Excited for it and the new Mario next month. Let's hope I made a good decision.
You did.
The world of Wind Waker as one filled with climate refugees is my interpretation as well. (now updated with remake screenshots)
This is a pretty wonderful series of articles about the philosophy behind the game. There's a link to each separate part within the article, so this will just take you to the introduction. Pretty cool ideas in there, though.
http://www.zeldauniverse.net/articles/the-philosophy-of-the-wind-waker-part-one/
http://www.zeldauniverse.net/articles/the-philosophy-of-the-wind-waker-part-one/