Mango The Magician
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Are we sure it's clouds? Because to me it just looks like a raised area that dips into a sunken area, and considering it's placement it'd make sense if it were Gerudo Desert/Lanayru Gorge.
Legend of Zelda Wii U Gameplay Demo
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Are we sure it's clouds? Because to me it just looks like a raised area that dips into a sunken area, and considering it's placement it'd make sense if it were Gerudo Desert/Lanayru Gorge.
A Demise render made its way online a day or so before launch. Before that, Nintendo had released images of nearly every boss and dungeon in the game.
Herb Alpert
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I will avoid any zelda information after E3. For ALBW and especially Skyward Sword, the last weeks were the worst. I played SS unspoiled, and I am sure I appreciated it much more this way.
"A long time ago, I told a young man clothed in green that it's dangerous to go alone... what became of him I do not know, but I won't let you go until you take this."
That would mean that this iteration of Link would have to be a total badass. I'm not sure if Evil stood even the slightest of chance against that Link, tbh
They did that? Wow...
Yeah, after Skyward Sword being spoiled to hell before its release by Nintendo, I don't know how they're going to handle this one.
Didn't Aonuma say the game was looking "even better than that" now? That's the weird thing.
Maybe they decided to show the roughest part of the game they had, for some reason, but the E3 footage looked much more polished.
...really? Wow, I didn't read that manual, apparently.
I'm wondering how this game will handle objects being loaded in from a distance. I imagine that's a functional aspect of the mountainous geometry; many objects are probably loaded in beyond the horizon or behind a ridge. I didn't notice any crazy pop-in during the demo, although scenery in the distance obviously has noticeably less texture detail.
Or its just an old build? Who knows when it was recorded.
There could be a lot of reasons.
A. It's an old build.
B. It was last minute and they were taken aback by the sudden request.
C. They didn't exactly know what to show due to the world being so big. (Aside from just how big the world is.)
D. All of the above.
E. None of the above.
F. The game really is gonna suck.
If you don't pay attention to it, you might miss it:
Easy to miss her if all you look at is the foreground.
Where?
Edit: oh ok, the timestamp didnt work the first time.
Ah, you're right. I wonder how elegantly they'll address problems like this in the final version. It's not the first Zelda to have noticeable pop-in, at least.
If that's the worst pop-in in the game then I think we'll be OK. Plus this game is pretty much a full year out. The sparseness of the footage and technical issues, like really simple LOD when placing the marker, are not really a concern for me since it's this time remaining when they'll really start adding all the content to the game and optimizing the engine. Things should really only improve from this point on.
The first thing I did after I got this game was check out the manual (which is always the first thing I do, if possible), and I didn't even make the connection between Midna and that depiction until after I finished the game.
Orakio Rob
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If I'm playing this thing and suddenly it starts snowing I swear I'm gonna cry.
I agree. Zelda was their big announcement for E3 2014, now there's no reason for them to wait for E3 2015 to show us more. They will probably have some other big game to show us this time, like Star Fox, or maybe Met... no, no, not again, I won't fool myself again.
I might actually be cool with no overworld music. Sometimes music is more effective as punctuation. The main theme could kick in during combat or moments of grand scenery. I know it's a tired comparison, but Shadow of the Colossus gets pretty far on its sparse, dynamic soundtrack.
So far all the music has been simple piano (in the First trailer) and violin.
Hmmmmmmm...
If that's the musical direction for this entry, I'd be stoked.
ReyVGM
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Zero²;142809064 said:
Yes, but people are judging the graphics of the game from that offscreen low quality gameplay video and are assuming the game looks worse than the E3 reveal.
Also, I don't believe Aonuma ever said it looked better 'graphically', he could have meant it looks better because there are more details, or more animation, or more objects (rocks, trees, rivers, etc) in the map.
I just want the original theme orchestral remix Nintendo did for the 25th anniversary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxEyzxJ4NGI
Or some more up-tempo version of it. I really really want the Zelda 1 overworld theme in at least PART of the overworld. Especially the middle, in what is presumably hyrule field.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxEyzxJ4NGI
Or some more up-tempo version of it. I really really want the Zelda 1 overworld theme in at least PART of the overworld. Especially the middle, in what is presumably hyrule field.
I...
I want a full symphony orchestra.
With a bunch of authentic world music type instruments.
Though, I'm sure it will be nice with whatever they use.
Astral Dog
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There are too many trees on this game, they should cut some and improve the rocks instead
There's value in making it grand and stuff, but at the same time, they have to keep it consistent and have something that works well with the tone of the game. Piano and violin are perfect for creating epic pieces and more quaint and peaceful tracks too.
Honestly, I'm loving the direction if this is where they're going with it. As long as it's all performed live, I don't care about it lacking the epic stuff. Obviously there will be some, but it's better not to over saturate it.
Lorule field is the best rendition of the Dark World theme, so I'm very okay with a simpler piece of music for the overworld.
Yeah, I have complete trust that the soundtrack will be amazing, but I wouldnt be against another version of this song if they decide to make it
Trees > Rocks
Mato
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That's something I'm definitely interested in. I've kind of outgrown loud, melodic music in games. I'd be infinitely more interested to see what they can do with soundscapes, pads, reverb/delay, quite time and so on. I'd rather they'd hire high-end sound engineers to do some research on how to enhance the general ambiance of a gameworld. This is what really matters. The world, the atmosphere. I'm tired of traditional, heavily structured, looping music. It doesn't make sense anymore, especially in open world adventure games where immersion is key. I don't even care about the Zelda theme, they might as well not include that. I hope they don't force me to explore all the fields with the Zelda theme looping endlessly. Ugh.
You mean, like actually use the sound of the wind, the trees moving, little crickets? And use music only when something important happen?
Well I think its hard to pull off well, but I would certainly like it.
Yeah. I love the ambience introduced by OoT. The music so far in this is really staccato.
It's throwing off my groove.
ReyVGM
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I think that area from the E3 trailer doesn't exist anymore, or it was changed to what we saw at the beginning of the TGA gameplay video.
Why do I think that? Well, usually unique natural structures are only used once in world maps. So notice how in the E3 trailer there's a mountain cut in half by a waterfall?
It's easier to distinguish if you watch the video, but it's right above link way in the background.
Look at the same type of natural structure to the right, just as Link goes up the edge.
I really doubt they would use that twice in different parts of the map, for the reasons explained above.
So I wouldn't be surprised if that area was completely redesigned or removed by now. It wouldn't be the first time they've done that. Anyone remember the awesome dense forests from Ocarina and Twilight that never made it into the final game?
Why do I think that? Well, usually unique natural structures are only used once in world maps. So notice how in the E3 trailer there's a mountain cut in half by a waterfall?
It's easier to distinguish if you watch the video, but it's right above link way in the background.
Look at the same type of natural structure to the right, just as Link goes up the edge.
I really doubt they would use that twice in different parts of the map, for the reasons explained above.
So I wouldn't be surprised if that area was completely redesigned or removed by now. It wouldn't be the first time they've done that. Anyone remember the awesome dense forests from Ocarina and Twilight that never made it into the final game?
Yeah man, but imagine the impact it would be to be just calmly exploring around, and then BAM you find some ancient ruins with this song playing on the background... HNNNG
You might be on the overworld for hours...long hours.
The music will probably be really dynamic to match what you're doing. The reason Koji Kondo switched to ambience was because he knew how annoying and repetitive everything is without it.
LegendofLex
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On the music topic:
I do think there needs to be a series of "grandiose" epic-adventure-y overworld themes (mostly for relatively flat, open field-like areas), perhaps a handful of them that suit each of the major overworld areas - the Twilight Princess Hyrule Field and Gerudo Desert pieces strike the kinds of feels I'm getting at. Xenoblade Chronicles is also a great case study for how really grandiose music can still work for very large areas.
But I also think there needs to be some dynamic differences in mood for different areas. Some areas might have softer piano like the track we heard in the reveal trailer; tough battles should up the tempo, but remain more or less in line with the tone for the area (again, like the reveal trailer).
I do think there needs to be a series of "grandiose" epic-adventure-y overworld themes (mostly for relatively flat, open field-like areas), perhaps a handful of them that suit each of the major overworld areas - the Twilight Princess Hyrule Field and Gerudo Desert pieces strike the kinds of feels I'm getting at. Xenoblade Chronicles is also a great case study for how really grandiose music can still work for very large areas.
But I also think there needs to be some dynamic differences in mood for different areas. Some areas might have softer piano like the track we heard in the reveal trailer; tough battles should up the tempo, but remain more or less in line with the tone for the area (again, like the reveal trailer).
I think that area from the E3 trailer doesn't exist anymore, or it was changed to what we saw at the beginning of the TGA gameplay video.
Why do I think that? Well, usually unique natural structures are only used once in world maps. So notice how in the E3 trailer there's a mountain cut in half by a waterfall?
It's easier to distinguish if you watch the video, but it's right above link way in the background.
Look at the same type of natural structure to the right, just as Link goes up the edge.
I really doubt they would use that twice, for the reasons explained about.
So I wouldn't be surprised if that area was completely redesigned or removed by now. It wouldn't be the first time they've done that. Anyone remember the awesome dense forests from Ocarina and Twilight that never made it into the final game?
Those two structures are completely different. They both happen, possibly the first is quite hard to distinguish, water falls coming down them, but their overall shape and even placement of said waterfalls are completely different.
Edit: This image clearly shows your first image isn't actually a waterfall but a mountain slit in two, with likely a river running beneath/between it.
Errr they dont really look like the same montain? And I doubt they would have the effort to create all that, with the follow up chase scene, just for some moments of a trailer.
Simple, it keeps people from accurately dissecting thinks like resolution, framerate, texture detail, lighting effects, etc. When the product is still in a semi-early stage.
I think that area from the E3 trailer doesn't exist anymore, or it was changed to what we saw at the beginning of the TGA gameplay video.
Why do I think that? Well, usually unique natural structures are only used once in world maps. So notice how in the E3 trailer there's a mountain cut in half by a waterfall?
It's easier to distinguish if you watch the video, but it's right above link way in the background.
Look at the same type of natural structure to the right, just as Link goes up the edge.
I really doubt they would use that twice, for the reasons explained above.
So I wouldn't be surprised if that area was completely redesigned or removed by now. It wouldn't be the first time they've done that. Anyone remember the awesome dense forests from Ocarina and Twilight that never made it into the final game?
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There are two mountains (white = higher elevation) that are split in half by a river on the map they show.
plus, I don't know about you, but its cool seeing 2 of my favorite vg producers/directors/creators...legends, on screen playing the game and chatting it up. plenty of time for direct footage over the next year.
Yes, please.
Most of the console Zeldas with day/night cycles completely forewent music during nighttime. I've always thought that to be much more effective than an overbearing "this is how you should be feeling" musical theme.
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