Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
He is also covers linux as well sometimes, mostly manjaro/system76 stuff tho.
He is also covers linux as well sometimes, mostly manjaro/system76 stuff tho.
Giantbomb gave impression of Control running on it. It basically runs around 30fps low settings at native resolution with a few drops below 30fps here and there. Giantbomb even said they lowered the resolution slightly for much more stable framerate. Control runs like shit on base PS4 and Xbox One S.
Based on all the test we are looking at Xbox One S level performance on a targeted resolution of 800p with games that are CPU intensive running better on the Deck than the Ones S but overall the best way to describe this is it's a One S in handheld form targeting 800p. Of course u can get more juice out of it by adding extra performance saving with lower 500p resolution, dynamic resolution, FSR and etc.
Dusktildawn48
Member
Exactly this, doesn't he have like 20 people on staff that need to be paid?
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
My first MSP job we would sit and watch his videos during slow days. He has a good way of delivering knowledge to people young and old. That's a hard skill if you watch some of the IT related videos out there. Ad sense is just part of the job. They get money for promoting a sponsor. That's how they put food on the table. I liked his Steam Deck video because he went in with peripherals and other handhelds for comparison. That felt more genuine than a lot of other videos out there. It wasn't just a bunch of glamour shots of the Steam Deck. I know more about the device than I did during the reveal after watching his video.
Daymos
Member
Its exactly what I thought it would be, no surprises. It's a $500 handheld without enough space for games, 2 hours of battery life, and questionable playability depending on HUD scaling and steam OS compatibility.
Don't get me wrong, the thing has GREAT promise if they work out the kinks and make the 512gb model with the faster SSD the standard. It's going to have some growing pains though.
Good video by the way, I enjoyed watching it while hacking away at some turned based battles in trails in the sky2... game gets tedious in dungeons.
Don't get me wrong, the thing has GREAT promise if they work out the kinks and make the 512gb model with the faster SSD the standard. It's going to have some growing pains though.
Good video by the way, I enjoyed watching it while hacking away at some turned based battles in trails in the sky2... game gets tedious in dungeons.
I like Linus too. His channel has some great reviews.
I also like the Linux videos from the fat guy on Linus' channel.
Mr Hyde
Gold Member
Looks like a very cool piece of tech. Both versatile and powerful. I don't like the design though and it looks cumbersome. Questionable battery life too. But it sure does pack a punch. Gonna stick to my Switch though for my handheld fix, but Steam Deck seems like a breakout hit. It will probably review very well.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
"I'm gonna be one of the first people in the world to touch RDNA2 hardware running on an APU."
Uhhhh, there are these 3 consoles that were released last year...
Uhhhh, there are these 3 consoles that were released last year...
fatmarco
Member
All the bullshit in this thread and finally someone pointed that out lol.
Saber
Newd Member
One thing I saw I find interesting was he playing Doom. I kinda get a glimpse of it visually and it looks sharp enough, I could see pretty much the details of it. Not that retarded blurry shit Nintendo have for instance. I notice though that the controls might not be that much of deal, felt like he was struggling a bit fighting monsters and moving around. Could be that he is not a video-game player at all though.
The criticism is totally understandable. The guys looks way deseperatly excited, which could mean he is nothing but a cheap seller for the company. But there are nice tests here in there(even for a guy like me who don't care much about that stuff, still find interesting) if you ignore all that dumb shit.
The criticism is totally understandable. The guys looks way deseperatly excited, which could mean he is nothing but a cheap seller for the company. But there are nice tests here in there(even for a guy like me who don't care much about that stuff, still find interesting) if you ignore all that dumb shit.
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YCoCg
Member
Pretty sure he said HANDHELD APU.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Just watched that part again, and nope, he didn't.
Anyway, this thing seems really cool for current games, but I'm concerned (yes, concerned!) about how future proof it will be. Doom Eternal at 720p and medium settings can't hit 60fps...
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Jaysen
Banned
Mouse pads are back in stock!
im not joking. Halfway through the video he stops to inform you that mouse pads are back in stock.
1-2 hours battery for high performing games. It's all about expectations if you knownformgames like Control you will only be playing 30fps with 2 hour battery life but then a game like Shovel Knight will go foraybe 6 hours. If there is a market for a handheld PC only time will tell. For me personally I was always interested in something like this but the price has always been very high with Win GPD, and always read stories about faulty devices. If Valve can pull off a relaible device without it being faulty and that price range I think they can go far with this.
As for HUD if you watch the Giantbomb impression they stated the small text was readable. That's one of the advantages of going for low resolution.
I think the main 2 things for Valve to succeed is comparability without installing windows as well as hardware relaibility. If they manage to deliver on these 2 things I really see handheld PCs taking off. It's only going to get cheaper and more energy efficient chips will keep releasing while the Steam game library will keep growing
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
It's looking better and better unlike this thread which has taken some stupid irrational turns.
If you planning to buy this device to play future next gen only games then you should be dissapointed. This device is for current gen games, cross gen games, all previous generatuons, emulation and indie games. It will also make a decent streaming device for Xcloud and remote play I guess.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
That's like buying a console right at the end of its life, when support for it is slowly dying. Yeah, that's just not an attractive prospect to me.
There will always be games targetting lower specs. Even 5 years from now. Indie games and AA games are more popular than ever I can't see indie games targeting next gen only all the time. GaaS games will also target more machines like Fortnite and Minecraft. That's the reason why Halo Infinite is cross gen so they can target Xbox One and lower powered PCs and Laptops.
The PC market has always been like this, while you have a 3090 there will always be a newly produced PC that's much weaker and new games will still run on it just not the big AAA games.
There are not many next gen only PC games out. I think we have Flight Simulator and The Medium. So I guess those 2 games would be the big test for Steam Deck. Perhaps they can be playable at low settings, 500p, FSR, 30fps limit.
But yeah it's probably not for you, what your asking for is probably not feasible maybe in a successor Steam Deck in a few years it might. If you are interested in AAA next gen only games portable I'd go for a gaming laptop.
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Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Sorcerer
Member
I don't know, Linus ripped Steam Machines, Steam Controllers, and Steam OS apart back in the day.
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Kenpachii
Member
Well the PS4 drops as low as as 13 fps,, so for its resolution it beats those consoles considerable then.
Still 30 fps low is impressive to say the least.
I think if you don't mind doing some crazy lower specs you can run bug games like Red Dead 2 and Cyberpunk.
For example if you drop the resolution down to 480p, limit the framerate at 30fps, and have everything on low I think Cyberpunk and Red Dead 2 can easily be playable at a stable framerate of 30fps. That's the beauty of PC gaming you can change things around to get things to run the way you want.
I'm actually wondering how games would look at exactly half the resolution of Aya Neo. 640x400 for 16:10 and 640x360 for 16:9. I wonder if a even upscale wouldn't make it look too bad.
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Sean Mirrsen
Banned
With a really good upscaler, it might not be too bad, yeah. FSR may be far inferior to DLSS, but it can work on a general basis, like when implemented into the Proton window compositor (an ongoing development that may allow games running through Proton to use FSR regardless of whether it's implemented in the game itself).
Also the Aya Neo can already more or less play RDR2 on all low settings, at 720p and 30-ish FPS. With more power on the Deck, I'd expect you'll be able to keep that 30 locked and even push some of the settings to medium.
DigitalScrap
Member
I don't think so. I think there are just a lot of miserable people here that hate successful people for some reason.
I don't watch many of his videos, but this was infinitely better than the IGN First coverage...
Lupin3
Targeting terrorists with a D-Pad
No sir, you're not. Linus is great. People calling him a cunt and wanting to punch him should probably log off for a while.
I know we have controller attachments for phones but a Steam Deck would make a decent remote play device for PS5, Xbox Series or Steam Link if you have a powerful gaming console. So you can still atleast stream games and use the decent controls
So the latest AAA games that are hard to run natively you can stream and games that are easy to run you can run natively.
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driftshake
Neo Member
Wow. You guys must be extremely insecure if you shit on LTT because he is actually making a great living doing this stuff. He is informative without making drama as many other tech youtubers are doing. And if you actually listen to what he as to say, you might learn something. But this is a console forum, so maybe you are shitting on him because this product is shitting on your super cool boxes. Please get a life, and maybe don't click on threads with Linus in them if you are offended that someone way less alpha than you are more successful than you.
Now to the Steam Deck. Seems very good. I'd buy one, but they are not offering it over here, so I guess I have to wait. As Linus said, and OLED display would have been really nice, so I hope that will come down the line.
Now to the Steam Deck. Seems very good. I'd buy one, but they are not offering it over here, so I guess I have to wait. As Linus said, and OLED display would have been really nice, so I hope that will come down the line.
ArtemisClydeFrog
Banned
My boy lay in waiting for 4 years not posting, biding his time till he could defend Linus' honor. What a fucking Chad.
SantaC
Member
It is the opposite actually. He built pewdiepie a computer so he ruffled feathers at era.
There is no reason this place should hate linus. He is a good guy (he isnt woke)
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driftshake
Neo Member
Nah, my man. There is just no a lot of interesting shit being posted there. It could have been a 20 year late post, but I bet you'd probably have been in dipers then. I lurk, because there isn't a lot of interesting stuff being posted that I want to give any energy typing a response to. I got the reaction I wanted though. Love the retarded energy.
driftshake
Neo Member
Tygeezy
Member
It doesn't, but wasn't the deck running at 60 +?
No. Linus clearly stated 40fps with drops to the 20s. He was one of the few to check fps while playing.
Doom is a last gen game. This would be like the Switch playing PS3/360 games at 720p, 30fps. I reckon the Deck will have serious troubles when current gen games start hitting. You will see all the same sacrifices ports make on the Switch.
Twinguistics
Member
What's soy mean in relation to this? I know what soy sauce is.
Also, first time I've heard of Linus or watched a video. I thought he was pretty good to be honest. Not too over-the-top.
Yes, the thumbnail isn't great but i don't blame them for going with that trend.
Also, first time I've heard of Linus or watched a video. I thought he was pretty good to be honest. Not too over-the-top.
Yes, the thumbnail isn't great but i don't blame them for going with that trend.
TheGodfather07
Member
fucking hell i dont know who this guy is but whats with the extreme hate and attacks? what did he do? it cant be healthy to have that much hate for some youtube guy you dont even really know.
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BlueMagpie
Neo Member
I have difficulty watching Linus because he talks to his audience the same way you to a toddler.
WitchHunter
Banned
SAVE LINUS! GIVE HIM FEEL!
driftshake
Neo Member
He is successful. Not a lot of the basement dwellers here can accept that. He does good work, and thorough work. I didn't think I would have to defend him here. But the insecurity of some people here is really bad.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
That's not what I understood him as saying. He was excited, maybe under a time limit, and saying a few things quickly. Some came out weird(i.e.- "I'm one of the first people to play on a RDNA 2 APU").
"The frame rate is anywhere from 40...well there's drops down to the 20s, which is to be expected." He was starting to give a frame range with "from 40fps" being the lowest bounds and then he would follow with the max, and then a general average. What happened was it dropped lower and he lost his train of thought while playing.
These were the segments that showed the fps counter and the general frame rate range...
0:00-0:03 -> 65-71fps
0:09-0:12 -> 71-79fps
8:54-9:06 -> 67-91fps
9:55-10:05 -> 58-59fps
11:23-12:38 -> 55-116fps
That last segment shows extended gameplay in combat and the average was above 60fps.
For a benchmark fixed res makes sense, but in real-world use you'd have dynamic res enabled to mitigate drops below 60fps.
TheGodfather07
Member
yeah i dont get the personal attacks. theres no need for that shit and i dont even know who this guy is. never heard of him but people attacking him for the way he is when he aint done anything to harm anyone aint nice. come on guys.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Something about a successful nerd brings out a lot of hate in less successful nerds.
Linus objectively provides useful, empirical data that is relevant to many power users, and packages it in a very user friendly video experience.
CitizenZ
Banned
I have followed Linus for I have no idea how long, but there is one declaration he made that has made me I guess a fan? During one of his vids, he said when he started the Co. one of his personal goals was that he would help ALL employees of buy or purchase their own home. On that video he said(at that time) that goal was reached with the intro of the employee. I dont know, an actual Co. doing something to help others is pretty OK in my book. That was a few years back Im sure and don't know if its different today, but if anything, he and all involved have built something pretty entertaining and educational. A helluva lot better than most of the trash in most schools today.