Dead Prince
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well i broke stage 1 lol. gretelbot didn't follow and i just kept going.
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LittleBigPlanet 2 |OT| A Platform For Games
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Of course it had to be something obvious. lol Thanks for the tip, it completely solved the problem. The beep was just because I forgot to turn it's settings to: subtitles on. What's a little tricky now is getting the flow on time, considering how lbp records. And when I would move the magic mouth on either the music sequence or the gp sequencer the clip stopped playing. :|donkey show said:
scotcheggz
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I still haven't played this yet, but I just saw the dragon quest-ish level someone made on mixi. Has it been posted yet? I haven't really followed LBP2 at all, but this shit is crazy!
When using the controllinator is there anyway to differentiate between left and right? Basically I have created some sprites which I'm emitting and would like to emit a different version if the player is moving left than if they are moving right.
A workaround is to use L1 and R1 for movement instead of the analogue stick but i'd prefer to keep the movement controls to the stick so as not to confuse people.
A workaround is to use L1 and R1 for movement instead of the analogue stick but i'd prefer to keep the movement controls to the stick so as not to confuse people.
Confidence Man
Member
Not sure if there's a way to do it with logic alone, but with a rocket rotator you can create a simple mechanism to trigger different emitters depending on which way you're moving.
donkey show
Member
It's all PSEye.Teknoman said:
jump_button
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Teknoman said:
its just the PSeye
like this
LittleBigPlanet 2 Patch notes:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-18-littlebigplanet-2-glitches-patched-up
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-18-littlebigplanet-2-glitches-patched-up
I've found a LBP1 level that reliably crashes my PS3 when played in LBP2. I've submitted a bug report for them ( http://getsatisfaction.com/littlebigplanet/topics/semi_repeatable_crash_bug_in_user_level ) - but I'm curious if this is something unique to my setup or true of everyone. Anyone here able to play through the level ( http://lbp.me/v/q85yrz ) successfully?
Part 1 was a blast, and what I've seen of Part 2 was similarly brilliant; the level deserves to work!
Part 1 was a blast, and what I've seen of Part 2 was similarly brilliant; the level deserves to work!
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
I've just started re-making my first level (Faux City). Having completed two levels and making art direction tests for three new levels I've learned alot. Putting all that knowledge back into a published levels feels great.
I still can't get over the satisfaction of creating levels and getting better at it. Hopefully the result will be available for all to see at the end of the week.
I still can't get over the satisfaction of creating levels and getting better at it. Hopefully the result will be available for all to see at the end of the week.
Andvary
Member
Hi guys! This is my firls LBP2 creation, It's a short level but I think it's funny, please check it out, any comments would be appreciated. =)
The Sackboy In The Mirror
http://lbp.me/v/x1mvtb
The Sackboy In The Mirror
http://lbp.me/v/x1mvtb
I made a really complicated level with thousands of holograms and got a warning saying that it was getting too complicated. Fair enough, so I optimised it and got the number of holograms down to about 100. Instead of fixing it, the problem got much worse. So I loaded up an old save that I know had no problems and for some reason this time it was unplayable with objects not appearing due to it being too complex.
I then started a brand new level from scratch and after a few minutes received the same message saying my level is too complicated and when I switch to play mode many parts of the level will disappear because of this. The thing is it's a very simple level that doesn't even reach the first notch of the thermometer, so I think it's a bug caused by my previous level rather than my current level being too complex.
Has this happened to anyone else? I was wondering whether deleting my LBP2 game data will fix it, but not sure if I'd lose anything else by doing that.
I then started a brand new level from scratch and after a few minutes received the same message saying my level is too complicated and when I switch to play mode many parts of the level will disappear because of this. The thing is it's a very simple level that doesn't even reach the first notch of the thermometer, so I think it's a bug caused by my previous level rather than my current level being too complex.
Has this happened to anyone else? I was wondering whether deleting my LBP2 game data will fix it, but not sure if I'd lose anything else by doing that.
jump_button
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satriales said:
alot of holograms in one area will drop the frame rate alot nothing you can really do other then cut down on holograms
satriales said:
This might happen for other reasons than the thermo. It can be too complex because there's too many objects, too many stickers, too many collectables, to many vertices (in you shapes), etc. Each of those things have their own "thermo" and the the thermo you see on screen is only sort of an overall / average one.
So if your thermo does not look full and you get that message, it must mean there's a region that is too complex in your level. Do you fix most your stuff with dark matter? Each part/section of a level should be glued to dark matter. This prevents you stuff from being calculated as "moveable objects with physics". Dark matter is physics -less and takes alot less memory because of that --- and so is the stuff stickied to it.
Yeah, I was just experimenting with sprite animation, not too bothered that I lost that level.jump_button said:
My problem is that for some reason my new level doesn't have any holograms and only some very basic geometry yet I'm once again getting warnings about the complexity of the level.
I'm wondering if my game data is bugged. Would I lose anything if I delete it?
I used to glue stuff to dark matter but with recent levels I've just been sticking anti-gravity tweaks on objects. I'll try using dark matter instead and see if that helps.Ranger X said:
I was purposely trying to make the level as simple as possible to start with but maybe it's these ladders that are causing the problem. This is the most complex part of the level: http://i3.lbp.me/img/ft/003f7ed656dce58415aea147043eac45ca7cf3bd.jpg
jump_button
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satriales said:
well looks like you have alot of little blocks on they own
if you going to do animation sprite you going to have to think 8-bit not 16-bit
Yeah, it was mainly just an experiment and it worked fine for ages. That screenshot has 13 sprites on screen (7 at the top and 6 layered on top of each other for the animation) each with over 100 holograms, plus a huge level that is currently offscreen and I had no problems at all the whole time I was creating it.
When I did start getting problems I deleted the seven sprites at the top of the screen and everything that is offscreen, plus I optimized the animation so that holograms that are reused everytime (such as the head and the cape) only appear once leaving me with a final animation of little more than 100 holograms total for six sprites. (Before and after) So I had reduced the complexity of my level to less than 10% of what it was, but the errors only got worse.
Like you say 16-bit is too much and after my experiment I realised it would never work in an actual level, so I'm not bothered that I lost that level, it just seems to have somehow affected new levels I'm building.
When I did start getting problems I deleted the seven sprites at the top of the screen and everything that is offscreen, plus I optimized the animation so that holograms that are reused everytime (such as the head and the cape) only appear once leaving me with a final animation of little more than 100 holograms total for six sprites. (Before and after) So I had reduced the complexity of my level to less than 10% of what it was, but the errors only got worse.
Like you say 16-bit is too much and after my experiment I realised it would never work in an actual level, so I'm not bothered that I lost that level, it just seems to have somehow affected new levels I'm building.
Looks like I have 2 problems when trying to create my new level. If I can't sort this out, I will not be able to attain my desired quality and that would be really deceiving (we need to bring our creation to a new level in this new game don't we? 
Anyhow, first prob is:
1- I need to be able to switch from one remoted controlled controlinator to another remote controlled controlinator. (back and forth).
I don't know if it's doable but I does sound like it is. There's just something I can't put my finger on, I am blocked right now. Anyways, my goal is that sometimes I will switch from Sackboy to a Sackbot for a while and then back to Sackboy later on. My Sackoy is always remote controlling a controllinator because he's having some new moves I made.
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2- Is it possible to make a hud that doesn't follow the player but follows the screen?
Right now I obviously know how to make some hud follow the player (some holo + player follower) but I really really don't like that it jumps and move with me. I wish it would appear to the player like it's fixed on the screen, just like any traditionnal huds...
I hope I am not hitting LBP2 limits there...
Anyhow, first prob is:
1- I need to be able to switch from one remoted controlled controlinator to another remote controlled controlinator. (back and forth).
I don't know if it's doable but I does sound like it is. There's just something I can't put my finger on, I am blocked right now. Anyways, my goal is that sometimes I will switch from Sackboy to a Sackbot for a while and then back to Sackboy later on. My Sackoy is always remote controlling a controllinator because he's having some new moves I made.
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2- Is it possible to make a hud that doesn't follow the player but follows the screen?
Right now I obviously know how to make some hud follow the player (some holo + player follower) but I really really don't like that it jumps and move with me. I wish it would appear to the player like it's fixed on the screen, just like any traditionnal huds...
I hope I am not hitting LBP2 limits there...
Lance Bone Path
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You can put receiver controlinators on a chip and then connect something to the chip to activate/deactivate that chip (and thus the controlinator) as needed. Also, you're allowed to have multiple controlinators on the same circuit board.Ranger X said:Looks like I have 2 problems when trying to create my new level. If I can't sort this out, I will not be able to attain my desired quality and that would be really deceiving (we need to bring our creation to a new level in this new game don't we?
Anyhow, first prob is:
1- I need to be able to switch from one remoted controlled controlinator to another remote controlled controlinator. (back and forth).
I don't know if it's doable but I does sound like it is. There's just something I can't put my finger on, I am blocked right now. Anyways, my goal is that sometimes I will switch from Sackboy to a Sackbot for a while and then back to Sackboy later on. My Sackoy is always remote controlling a controllinator because he's having some new moves I made.
In theory you could do this if you use a movie camera that doesn't follow players at all, fix the camera onto the HUD or an object that has the HUD welded to it. (I haven't tried this and my track record for answering questions about things I haven't tried is so far terrible.)
The game camera might be able to do the same thing but my experience with it is that it seems to want to react to the players even when player tracking is turned off.
rubbishmonkey
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I've just published my second level, although its still a work in progress, I think I am at the point where I could do with other peoples plays and comments.... since im the only one to have played it and its sending me a bit mad.
JumbleCrab
http://lbp.me/v/x2405c
JumbleCrab
http://lbp.me/v/x2405c
TelemachusD
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Ranger X said:
If you look at the Vectroids level, http://lbp.me/v/xrebq7, it has a ships remaining display in the upper left that is entirely fixed, while the screen moves separately, so it's definitely possible.
Ship icons never move- VVV
rubbishmonkey said:
Just got through it, very fun level. gets real tough once you're near the top.
Some bugs I noticed was that sometimes I would get another ball on my tower and I guess that was too much weight for some other section of the tower and it would come toppling down. Also sometimes balls will hit but not stick or not stick immediately to where they hit.
Suggestions: I think it might be interesting to try giving the crab some articulation, just tilting his arms left and right with the right joystick would give the player more to do than move left and right. Also power ups that could be added and work alright would be moving faster, momentarily indestructible towers, and changing the camera angle for a while to let people see further up the playing field.
donkey show
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Thanks man! Glad you thought so. =)Blakero said:
And here's some stuff I was messing around with this weekend. It's more top down action stuff, but you're controlling a giant knight armor.
It's a little tough to see in the pics, but it's much better to see in motion anyway since the movement is leagues ahead of what I did in Fist of Craft Earth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoNuxKoHBlM
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
donkey show said:
Wow. Looks like you're really on to something. When I think about making more complicated levels than my platforming niche I get tired all over. Even when directing small cutscenes I get annoyed at how far it's between my imagination and the end-result. That gap has been narrowed in the last week but things like this... yikes. But "yikes" in a good way.
Was messing around and playing with a stranger, and he randomly picked Hansel and Gretelbot. I completely forgot about this, and wow was I blown away by that intro. The sheer creativity and polish that went into that alone is so impressive. I queued it so I could play the whole thing later. Damn.
Also, holy shit is acing LBP2 levels fucking HARD! I also spent the entirety of Sunday morning and afternoon finding every damn item in LBP1, and went so far as to ace every LBP1 level as well, so I feel like I'm more or less done with the first game now. I'm really not sure if that neon helmet was worth the pain and suffering of trying ace that stupid level.
LBP2's ace rewards aren't as awesome as I'd like them to be, though, I must say.
BTW, was the GAF's Contra collab thing ever updated with LBP2 level linking and whatnot?
Also, holy shit is acing LBP2 levels fucking HARD! I also spent the entirety of Sunday morning and afternoon finding every damn item in LBP1, and went so far as to ace every LBP1 level as well, so I feel like I'm more or less done with the first game now. I'm really not sure if that neon helmet was worth the pain and suffering of trying ace that stupid level.
LBP2's ace rewards aren't as awesome as I'd like them to be, though, I must say.
BTW, was the GAF's Contra collab thing ever updated with LBP2 level linking and whatnot?
rubbishmonkey
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Torillian said:
Wow, thanks for the feedback!
I am hoping that an object tweaker on the ball to change the gravity will fix the breaking tower problem.
Nice ideas with the power ups. I did think about having moving claws, but it I just never got round to it as the idea developed, I certainly will experiment with those suggestions at some point. Cheers
donkey show
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Haha thanks man, and I know what you mean. I never really liked making platforming levels, so it's been somewhat of a godsend with the way creating has moved beyond that. I want to move back into sidescrolling (which I will with Stem Cell Sackboy), but top-down has so much more freedom of movement. I honestly could care less if the kiddies don't like this non-platforming stuff. It's so much fun building what I want and how I want. =)kinoki said:
KittenMaster
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Hansel & Gretelbot coming out means that some of the most popular levels right now happen to be platforming, so hopefully everyone can be happy concerning the whole platformer vs. non-platformer controversy.
jump_button
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most of my are platformers but with LBP2 I can set my own gameplay and my own rules
donkey show
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^ And that's cool since the game gives you enough freedom to do that. Personally, my line of thinking is that there's enough creators out there who make platformers and make them great.
jump_button
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^ Well yeah im sure users will find what they like the most and really go for it, my sky town class as a platformer but i hope its unique too, and working on a idea of a action/platformer open worlddonkey show said:
still no Community Spotlight Episode 58 from LBPC I hope they not skipping this weeks too
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
donkey show said:
Well, that's what it's for. I like it that the tools they've given us can be used both for simple platforming and tons of other stuff and I'm glad they went in that direction. Alot of people like drawing outside the lines and do their damnedest to re-define what's a line and what's not.
Personally I was split with your Fist-level. I thought it was an awesome accomplishment but I thought it was too complicated. This knight level looks alot better and cleaner. Personally I hope you ditch all forms of UI and let my screen just take in the lush graphics.
And really? There's a controversy about the non-platform levels? Personally I'm a kill-your-darlings kind of guy so whenever an idea becomes to complex I start by killing off everything that doesn't pass the lowest possible denominator test. I can't build these huge complex levels because of this but I enjoy that others do.
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