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Lizard Squad DDOS Brings Down multiple Daybreak Studios titles
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Not to mention sexual exploitation, they were asking women on twitter to post photos with their bras or nude to bring back PSN.
Ravensmash
Member
I'd love to see someone argue against a "punishment" following the above.
So you shoot down several people, get pressed for an answer, and then do this:
so you don't have to actually explain yourself? LOL Good grief man.
So the fact that this kid got off easy and now is an example of why they shouldn't care about punishment, is a good thing? Now more of them are going to do this in the belief that they will get away scoff free. Yeah, maybe in small cases this would make sense. But this is Cyber terrorism, not stealing a candy bar at a store.
Typically there are consequences when you ruin people's lives, put people's lives in danger, and cause millions of dollars in damage via lost revenue. I know, it's a really hard concept to understand.
Nobody is saying this dumbass should be executed at dawn. We're saying people aren't going to stop doing this shit if the consequence is nothing but some harsh words and a slap on the wrist. I guarantee you that not a single one of his fuckstain friends are looking at this and thinking "oh man better get out before that happens to me." At a certain point the risk does not outweigh the lulz.
Thankfully he's probably going to face a harsher sentence once other charges are brought against him.
Actually, I couldn't agree more! I think the guy in question needs to learn some hard lessons, but gamers aren't the people to determine them.
WTF!
Pathfinder
Member
There are already plenty of people saying we should let these little pricks off with a warning, and try to rehabilitate them.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1076662
LookAtMeGo
Member
Man. I hope they catch the rest of these guys and have them all sit in a corner and think about what they have done!!
Personally these little shits deserve to have their life's fucked up.
While it's annoying when they bring down an entire gaming network, that's passable I suppose, but when you start messing with someone's livelyhood and family you deserve to have the same if not worse done to you. This swatting shit needs to end and some of these "kids" need to get some real sentences already to shut them the fuck up.
While it's annoying when they bring down an entire gaming network, that's passable I suppose, but when you start messing with someone's livelyhood and family you deserve to have the same if not worse done to you. This swatting shit needs to end and some of these "kids" need to get some real sentences already to shut them the fuck up.
"Rehabilitate"? I don't understand. These people are very smart and technologically gifted. They are not mentally ill. They are people who cause this kind of shit specifically because they know nothing is going to happen to them in the country that they operate.
Pathfinder
Member
Exactly.
LookAtMeGo
Member
Sadly it will probably take someone to get killed from a swatting before they start taking it more seriously.
Can we not assume that the "US system" is the only alternative? There are also harsher punishments within the Finnish system obviously. Saying they were too light on him doesn't automatically mean he should be in some US prison.
I also find it funny how foreigners seem to think all US prisons are bleak, gang-infested death centers.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Idk about a warning. They did things against the law and should pay the consequences. Yes, ideally we should try to rehabilitate them or what's the point?
That's where im sure its heading, getting a bunch of pumped up cops together is eventually going to lead to an accident.
Hip Hop
Member
Not just any corner though, they deserve "prison cells" that resemble a nice little vacation hotel room, with a bunch of entertainment at your disposal! That way they will definitly learn the consequence of what they truly have done.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Appealing to authority is not a very good argumentative tactic.
You could try to dissuade the concerns of people, or at least attempt to make an argument other then saying "I'm sure they know better".
LookAtMeGo
Member
Overall maybe its a good thing but in this one instance, it seems to have failed. They are laughing about it. Looks like its really working wonders.
Is this a serious post? Their crime isn't only bringing down PSN, they did much more, like:
- Credit theft.
- Bomb threat.
- Bogus income tax filing.
- Sexually exploiting women on twitter.
- Doxxing.
But yeah, it's just a bunch of angry gamers.
Pathfinder
Member
I keep waiting for Anonymous to step in again and start teaching these little shits a real lesson they'll never forget.
Permanently A
Junior Member
I dunno what you guys are arguing about. Like Smedley said the 2 years thing is only for DDOS, the more serious stuff like the false bomb threat and credit fraud does not yet have a verdict.
So basically "this thing is good and therefore it can never ever be not good."
ArchedThunder
Banned
World War 3 will not be fought with guns or nukes, but with keyboards and cans of Monster energy drink.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Wait what? They only give verdicts on one thing at a time, or are they trying him separately for other things?
Typically related charges are brought together.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I'd rather they be in cushy prison cells than actively destroying lives, yes. I don't care if they have PlayStation and blowjobs every day, just get them the fuck off the street until they aren't a threat to society.
There's no reason prison has to be brutal, that's not what it's there for. That is the only defense of the Finish justice system you'll see from me on this matter.
Please enlighten me then.
LookAtMeGo
Member
Wow.
Can't rehab those that show no remorse. Or, alternatively, the punishment was nowhere near severe enough to cause them to be remorseful.
BumblebeeCody
Member
Out of curiosity, why are they targeting this dude?
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I don't know if "can't" is the right word, but incredibly difficult if not impossible would fit.
Remorse really is a key indicator if someone can be rehabilitated, and for the record I think the US Prison system should be more focused on rehabilitation then it is now.
what if their parents are poor?? you will be left worse off than when you started
Thornton Reed
Member
Society's overpopulation will be fine without these worthless pieces of shits taking part in it. They had their chance just like everyone else, but they decided to terrorize people with the potential of someone being murdered/injured.
It's disgusting and amazing how many people defend these scumbags like all they need is a hug and a good therapy session.
It's disgusting and amazing how many people defend these scumbags like all they need is a hug and a good therapy session.
& they're having a laugh about it too.
well. i guess they were taught a lesson.
It's amazing how there's a defense force for everything on the internet.
chrisPjelly
Member
Sorry if I appeared rude and presumptious, since that is something that people have the gall to assume. That said, defensive much? Not gonna go on debating the poltical and moral ethics of prison systems (this thread is going to go there regardless
), but I never said the (american?) prison system was perfect. I don't want the brat to come out of prison a scarred thug convert, but 2years in a pampered prison (as in more than what you see in a motel, not just comfortable and safe unlike certain prisons) and doing some service which could be done facetiously isn't going to do jack shit to rehabilitate either. Something needs to keep him faaar away from his peers for enough time for the group to be weakened into irrelevancy and for him to be completely cleared of bad influences (considering the prison is not the type you despise), and he needs what clearly needs to be a new brand of intensive psychological treatment, since cyber crimes seem to be so impersonal for offenders. Wasted time towards THAT is enough punishment and reason for fear, and that's a leverage that needs to exist so efforts can be made into stopping others. Idk, but asking companies to " get good" seems a little unfair as wellIt's not really an argument I'm trying to make, the recidivism rates speak for themselves.
There's no verdict for those other crimes yet, so yes.
Never wrote that, but good on you for making the connection.
