DeepEnigma
Gold Member
That's not how it works.
Saudi = Country of origin, just like Egyptian or Lebanese or Jordanian. All potentially Arab, but all not Saudi.
Arab = Race.
Looks like Assassin’s Creed Red’s protagonist is an African Samurai
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Saudi = Country of origin, just like Egyptian or Lebanese or Jordanian. All potentially Arab, but all not Saudi.
Arab = Race.
ZoukGalaxy
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Hosam6xavi
Banned
I'm not the kid one who is crying about someone not liking the design of one of his toys so i wonder who can tie his shoelaces
Hosam6xavi
Banned
Who are the Arabs ?
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
You've been crying for 3 pages about a game without any info other than "they picked a black samurai" lmao.
Sleepwalker
Member
Oh boy wait till he finds out the other protag is potentially a female samurai
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Frexerik88
Member
I could be down for this, sounds super cool
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
There are a lot of Arabs. Iranians, Jordanians, Egyptians, Sudanese, Yemeni, Bahraini, Kuwaiti, Libyan, Moroccan, Algerian, etc..
Which one do you want me to pick?
Reizo Ryuu
Member
No, it isn't, this is a historical figure in a game franchise about historical figures/events
You have thousands of other japanese samurai games to choose from if you don't want to see Yasuke, since there's apparently only:
That has him playable, you can't just go on to cry whatever ridiculous argument you think you had when this (yasuke) hasn't really been done before, and doesn't affect the hundreds of upcoming japanese samurai games where there's no yasuke.
You're like, super racist; or maybe just supremely stupid, either or take your pick.
Fuz
Banned
Fbh
Member
Could be cool, the character is certainly interesting and I think they also needed something to set themselves apart of Ghost of Tsushima (2).
Shame they can't just tell his story and have to instead focus on the boring templar plot and aliens.
I think you are mistaking what woke is.
This isn't any more woke than Nioh or The last Samurai (movie) being loosely based on real white guys is "racist" or a form of "white supremacy".
What IS woke is that the same publications and individuals that whined about Nioh and The Last Samurai will probably praise this. What is is woke is the mentality of "it's ok for this game set in japan to have a non japanese main character...as long as they aren't white".
If you were upset about Nioh and are also upset about this I guess I can see your point.
If you weren't upset about Nioh but are upset about this then maybe you are just racist.
Shame they can't just tell his story and have to instead focus on the boring templar plot and aliens.
I think you are mistaking what woke is.
This isn't any more woke than Nioh or The last Samurai (movie) being loosely based on real white guys is "racist" or a form of "white supremacy".
What IS woke is that the same publications and individuals that whined about Nioh and The Last Samurai will probably praise this. What is is woke is the mentality of "it's ok for this game set in japan to have a non japanese main character...as long as they aren't white".
If you were upset about Nioh and are also upset about this I guess I can see your point.
If you weren't upset about Nioh but are upset about this then maybe you are just racist.
Topher
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Aren't you conflating geography and demography though? Doesn't Yemen have nearly as many people as Saudi Arabia? And then there are the populations of Qatar, UAE, Yemen, Bahrain and Oman. Not sure how you come to the conclusion that "Saudi = Arab, Arab = Saudi".
Dream-Knife
Banned
Iranians are Persian/Aryans, Egyptians are Egyptian.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Oh no, not at all. The comedy would be deliciously fun.
I mean, we know they're intellectually stunted when it came to FF16 and they were projecting their bigotry and racism all over the place, even the same with Ghost of Tsushima dev studio with the manufactured retardism, but I do not think this is a response to that.
Do I think the current year we live in possibly paved the way for someone to have that little light bulb go off, sure, maybe, possibly, but it's still a historically unique figure that does exist and has not had many works done. So I am down to see what they do.
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Punished Miku
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I'm half Libyan so I'm allowed to use this gif. It's our greatest moment in the entertainment industry.
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FingerBang
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Right. Just one of the many Japanese historical figures with such a rich history and background that deserves to be the main fucking character of a game that takes place in a culturally homogenous place like Japan.
Assassin's Creed games don't star major historical figures, they star someone who can be placed in the vicinity of them.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's not like historical Japanese figures have been starved nor non-romanticized in media, from Japan to the the US of A.
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Honey Bunny
Member
No thanks, I want to play as a Japanese samurai.
BTW for woke points - it feels like asian protagonists are way less common than black.
BTW for woke points - it feels like asian protagonists are way less common than black.
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Badlucktroll
Member
Hope this new one is more 
and less 
and less
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
While true, there are ethnic and racial Muslim Arabs in those countries. We are a great big mixed world, innit.
Sleepwalker
Member
Exactly and it works way better this way. The assassins are meant to operate in the shadows but present during major historical events. The game will feature many major historical japanese figures that will be central to the main plot, 100%.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
In western games they certainly are.
Red5
Member
Iranians are Persians/Azeris/Arabs/Afgani/Balosh, only around 60% of Iranians are Persians, Iranian isn't a Race, it's a national identity encompassing millions of non Persians and Persians as well. While Egyptians are mostly descendents from a Myriad of colonizers from Romans to Greeks, Arabs, Mamluks, Nubeans and Ottomans but modern Egypt is a leader of Arab nationalism and has the greatest contribution to modern day Arabic literature.
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Reizo Ryuu
Member
..like Nioh?
Also, sure why not? What exactly is wrong with that when all the other figures have had their stories told a million-fold, telling the story of yasuke is not going to kill your parents and burn your house down.
VolticArchangel
Member
So, we're supposed to see "woke" in NioH, where Team Ninja, out of all the famous Japanese Ninja folklore, chose a white Dutchman (Irish in the game's lore) named William Adams, and not because of the merits he brought to the game's narrative the team wanted to tell their story, as a character?
William Adams (samurai) - Wikipedia
Both, William and Yasuke, are important parts of the Sengoku/Edo periods of Japanese history, serving two of the most popular Shogunates, under Tokugawa and Nobunaga.
Game devs flock to these characters, not because they're "woke", but because of what they ended up doing for their Shogunates/Daimyo, which would later influence not just Japan but it's surrounding regions as well. Actions speak louder than words.
It's not their fault that they were born black and white, and we're immigrants to Japan.
Try to count your total functional braincells next time, on one hand, and use them, to not look like a clown on the internet, for the world to see.
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Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Of course it is.
Kurotri
Member
Don't think there's a movie based on him, there's an anime however. If I remember correctly it sucked.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
read my whole post in one go bruv, I wasn't referring to you.
Fuz
Banned
That ban is, imho, uncalled for and we're risking to go back to 2018. 
You're only HALF allowed.
I'm half Libyan so I'm allowed to use this gif. It's our greatest moment in the entertainment industry.
Dream-Knife
Banned
Before Persia was renamed to mean "Resting place of the Aryan", it was called Persia, the homeland for Persians.
Egypt is a bit different, but there is still a distinction between Egyptians and Arabs.
Yes, I am aware of pan-arab nationalism and the Baath party.
There was a game called afro samurai which was on ps3/360 days and was actually very enjoyable
lughnasadh123
Member
I'm down for it. It'll give an interesting side to his story.
Otherwise I'm really in for the kneejerk reactions of calling something an agenda when a black character is introduced along with those who suddenly turn a blind eye to their usual "cultural appropriation" rhetoric.
Oh, and yeah, hope the game is fun.
Otherwise I'm really in for the kneejerk reactions of calling something an agenda when a black character is introduced along with those who suddenly turn a blind eye to their usual "cultural appropriation" rhetoric.
Oh, and yeah, hope the game is fun.
GrayChild
Member
If they/them are not vegan as well, I won't even bother.
Red5
Member
Honestly last Ubisoft game I really enjoyed were Rainbow Six Raven Shield and Ghost Recon 1, 2 and GRAW and Far Cry 2 is probably the best written game to every come out of Ubisoft. AC always felt like a chore to play and complete, but I loved the historical set pieces so suffered through them.
Joshmyersbv
Member
The term wokeness has ruined everything and the term is so overused now its becoming cringe. Here you a genuinely interesting character that would have been intriguing as a main character an like the early 2010s of gaming. However, because of all this woke anti woke bullshit that has infested the industry he's automatically dismissed because he's a black character in feudal Japan.
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DevilMayFlyForAWhiteGuy
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It's an interesting enough premise, but will probably be a wasted opportunity seeing as it's a modern AssCreed game. I'd rather play an action game like Nioh (yes I know they have that guy in it already) game with said figure/character than open world slop.
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