LOST 06.17/18/18.5: "The End" (Everything Else Was Just Progress)
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Anton Sugar
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YoungHav said:
Yeah, it just doesn't add up for me, especially since he visited them in, what was it? Season 5? Didn't they supposedly have everything on track/figured out by this point?
Why was the "real" ghost of Christian visiting Michael?
StuBurns said:
I said I would hate a reset. What we got is anything but. What we got was a very profound and touching epilogue wherein all the people whose lives had been ruined and lost could come together again and be at peace finally. All these people had something missing in their lives when they came to the island, and now they all finally seem whole.
Of course I loved it.
Erebus
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Finally got to see it.
It wasn't as terrible as I expected it to be but still can't say it left me overly satisfied. In fact, if it weren't for all the nice little flashback moments and the characters getting so emotional, I think it'd have been a disastrous way to end Lost with all the unexplained stuff and loose ends still lingering all over the place.
Farewell, Lost. Time to move on!
It wasn't as terrible as I expected it to be but still can't say it left me overly satisfied. In fact, if it weren't for all the nice little flashback moments and the characters getting so emotional, I think it'd have been a disastrous way to end Lost with all the unexplained stuff and loose ends still lingering all over the place.
Farewell, Lost. Time to move on!
DjangoReinhardt
Thinks he should have been the one to kill Batman's parents.
Here's what I saw in Lost:
1. Trying to find answers in the random variation and chaos of the world is largely futile.
2. The majority of value in life is in the connections you make with other people.
1. Trying to find answers in the random variation and chaos of the world is largely futile.
2. The majority of value in life is in the connections you make with other people.
Nameless said:
The thing is, people didn't want those answers in the finale; they wanted them BEFORE this point. The finale was fine as a stand alone episode, but there were still unanswered questions in previous seasons that were left hanging, and it would have been nice to have them resolved before the finale, so we wouldn't have all this talk of the show feeling like a cocktease.
Again, I think the finale works as a bookend to the characters' stories, but in no way does it negate the narrative flaws and choppy plotting of previous seasons.
thekad said:
How are you exaggerating? Find my post where I said no one cares about the characters.
I've been saying the mythology and mysteries were the core of a lot of peoples interest in the show, and by not fully addressing them the writers have let down a large part of their fanbase. The shows early success was propelled in large part due to the mysteries, but that doesn't mean the characters had absolutely nothing to do with it. You're blowing my posts out of proportion and acting like I think the show could function with no characters at all.
Kitschkraft
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This was always a favorite gif of mine, knowing what we know now takes it to another level...
Emerson
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I'm sure this has been discussed, but what the hell is the significance of the cut on Jack's neck?
Also, some straight up lies by the producers just prior to the finale. They said we would see Walt again and that mirrors would be important, but neither of those is correct in the last episode.
Also, some straight up lies by the producers just prior to the finale. They said we would see Walt again and that mirrors would be important, but neither of those is correct in the last episode.
echoshifting
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Man I hated the last 15 minutes. There wasn't a single episode of any season I didn't enjoy in some way (including this one). I don't see how anyone can look at every red herring thrown our way this season and then act like they did us some big cosmic favor with this ending.
The sensitivity in this thread is mind-blowing. This was the very definition of deus ex machina, and a lot of people dislike deus ex machina. It's a perfectly valid reaction to the ending for the X timeline that they chose to throw at us. From my point of view they just couldn't come up with a way to bring the two timelines together and at some point they gave up. I can't wait for them to try and justify all of the false "hints" implanted in the alternate timeline.
I can't wait until this season comes out on DVD and the people caught up in the emotional weight of the show ending and "the characters" have a chance to go back through S6 episode by episode...do you really believe you'll still be satisfied with the ending? Personally I feel this will make S6 extremely difficult to watch again (and I LOVED it unlike many here).
I so desperately wanted to be satisfied by the finale. I was ready to accept just about anything. Not this, though, and not presented in this fashion. Deus ex machina just sucks.
The sensitivity in this thread is mind-blowing. This was the very definition of deus ex machina, and a lot of people dislike deus ex machina. It's a perfectly valid reaction to the ending for the X timeline that they chose to throw at us. From my point of view they just couldn't come up with a way to bring the two timelines together and at some point they gave up. I can't wait for them to try and justify all of the false "hints" implanted in the alternate timeline.
I can't wait until this season comes out on DVD and the people caught up in the emotional weight of the show ending and "the characters" have a chance to go back through S6 episode by episode...do you really believe you'll still be satisfied with the ending? Personally I feel this will make S6 extremely difficult to watch again (and I LOVED it unlike many here).
I so desperately wanted to be satisfied by the finale. I was ready to accept just about anything. Not this, though, and not presented in this fashion. Deus ex machina just sucks.
Cool, glad you enjoyed it. I guess I misunderstood your issue with the reset/epilogue idea. Because of course it could never have been a true reset anyway, given we know the characters had experience of the original timeline.Solo said:
Locke didn't save the day by the way...
I liked it. I think if you just liked the general story and characters, it was a very satisfying ending. If you were into the mystery and mythology of the island, maybe not so much.
I think the main thing that disappoints me is that I was rooting for Locke to kinda become the man he was was "destined" to be. He was a sad, pathetic, loser before the crash, he got to start again and became the first believer on the island, and then it ended with him becoming getting killed and being the bad guy. I was kinda hoping he would be vindicated in some way, that he would get some sort of vindication.
I guess with the way they ended the series, everyone got a happy ending, but I was hoping he would get a happy ending in the real, island world.
I think the main thing that disappoints me is that I was rooting for Locke to kinda become the man he was was "destined" to be. He was a sad, pathetic, loser before the crash, he got to start again and became the first believer on the island, and then it ended with him becoming getting killed and being the bad guy. I was kinda hoping he would be vindicated in some way, that he would get some sort of vindication.
I guess with the way they ended the series, everyone got a happy ending, but I was hoping he would get a happy ending in the real, island world.
Damn, they're dropping bombs over at E! right now.
It turns out that Eko was supposed to be in the finale, but the actor asked for five times the money that was offered to appear in the scene, so the producers bailed.
Also, MIB had a name! Kristin says what it is in the second video. It was
. In the end Damon and Carlton decided that it would be cooler if we never found it out.
It turns out that Eko was supposed to be in the finale, but the actor asked for five times the money that was offered to appear in the scene, so the producers bailed.
Also, MIB had a name! Kristin says what it is in the second video. It was
Samuel
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Emerson said:
MIB sticking a knife to his neck in the final showdown.
emomoonbase
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I'm gonna predict at least two Lost big screen movies in the future.
Has anyone noticed the strong similarity between the flashsideways conclusion and the ending of Titanic?
Main guy dies and is left behind by lover. Years later, after age has caught up with the survivors of the island/the Titanic, they all reunite amicably, frozen in time as they were during the most important experience of their lives. Fade to white.
I mentioned it on the last page but had to flesh it out a bit more. Obviously there's more to the Lost finale than that, but I think it's clear that the L/C were going for a similarly reassuring, transcendent conclusion.
Main guy dies and is left behind by lover. Years later, after age has caught up with the survivors of the island/the Titanic, they all reunite amicably, frozen in time as they were during the most important experience of their lives. Fade to white.
I mentioned it on the last page but had to flesh it out a bit more. Obviously there's more to the Lost finale than that, but I think it's clear that the L/C were going for a similarly reassuring, transcendent conclusion.
Yup. Thats what the apologists don't get. No one wanted a 2.5hr power point presentation on answers, thats what you have an 18 episode season for. Instead we spent half the time watching silly flash sideways. The flash sideways did nothing for me for the most part and could have been handled better. Recon, What Kate Does, Across the sea were pretty bad/unnecessary episodes and the temple crap was nonsense.Alucard said:
echoshifting said:
Yup.
I accepted the misdirection with the flash backs (forwards) in the season 3 finale because the payoff was so good. and, hey, it was only one episode and the reveal meant that there were more complex stories awaiting in season 4.
but this entire season was about misdirection and throwing us off the true purpose of LA X. not one episode. an entire season of cheats and half truths and false emotion in LA X.
that will never sit well with me.
I guess nobody who made it off the island had anything else important happen to them in their lives since they made this "church" to meet up with old friends and to revisit the most import thing that happened in their lives.
I was okay with the end. Kind of stunk that we never really learned what the island was or the importance of it or what would've happened if it were destroyed, but the show was more about the characters and their journey anyway. I'm surprised they didn't even resort to the old "the island is the heart of the world and if it blows up, so does everything else" gag...
I was okay with the end. Kind of stunk that we never really learned what the island was or the importance of it or what would've happened if it were destroyed, but the show was more about the characters and their journey anyway. I'm surprised they didn't even resort to the old "the island is the heart of the world and if it blows up, so does everything else" gag...
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