LOST 06.17/18/18.5: "The End" (Everything Else Was Just Progress)

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From Jack's Lostpedia entry:

Family membersRay Shephard - Grandfather
Christian Shephard - Father
Margo Shephard - Mother
Claire Littleton - Half-Sister
Aaron Littleton - Half-Nephew
Sarah Shephard - Ex-Wife
Kate Austen - Ex-Fiancée/Soulmate
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Awwww.....

Edit, also no David. Poor figment of Jack's psyche.
 
rocksteady1983 said:
This made me laugh quite hard. I'm sure this has been posted several times but I'll post it again for the few that may have missed it. How lost should have ended
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:lol
 
Archaix said:
I agree that it's something supernatural. I can't reconcile the smoke monster without an element of supernatural, and that's where the whole EM theory falls apart in my eyes. Some people are okay saying that EM heals people and causes time travel and smoke monsters, I think those people are batty.
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I don't think the light is anything. It's whatever you want it to be. Like the final scenes, I think it was intentionally left ambiguous so that the audience can make up their own mind and define it with whatever they're comfortable with. Some people will side with Dharma and decide for themselves that it was EM Energy, some will decide it's a magic light as described by the mother and take the "it's found in all of us" line literally. There are a few theories that try to define it as something Scientific, like this one, and I think it's unfair to say "Yeah but this part makes the theory fall apart". It's a magic light... nothing fits. Personally I haven't subscribed to any theory yet, I'm happy for it to be left ambiguous for now.
 
Saying it's just electromagnetism doesn't work at all for me. It doesn't begin to explain any of the supernatural phenomenon. Had they just said it's a large quantity of electromagnetism, I would have been effectively disappointed with the entire show. It was clear to me that the electromagnetism was nothing more than a defensive mechanism surrounding whatever power lies within the island. I don't see how electromagnetism can create smoke monsters, cure cancer, allow a paraplegic to walk, let someone travel through time, etc.

Earlier in the show when I was under the impression that it was just electromagnetism, I was crossing my fingers that I was wrong. That would have sucked some serious shit.
 
Archaix said:
Unless you're existing outside of time, when the series ended there were still characters alive.
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Ah, but who's to say Jack didn't have another few seconds of life after he closed his eyes!
 
InaudibleWhispa said:
Some people will side with Dharma and decide for themselves that it was EM Energy[.]
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If you are a man of science.

InaudibleWhispa said:
ome will decide it's a magic light as described by the mother and take the "it's found in all of us" line literally.
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If you are a man of faith.
 
GatorBait said:
If you are a man of science.


If you are a man of faith.
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For those two, yes, but there are many theories and some don't fall comfortably under either category and there are some that are, for example, pure science with no mention of EM energy. I'd say in real life I'm most definitely a man of science, and though I'd lean towards supernatural goings on for many of the islands mysteries as our info stands right now, I could also happily conclude, as the prior theory I linked to did, that the light is some undiscovered exotic particle that appears to behave - to present day man - supernaturally; as if often the case before Scientific discoveries are made. Dharma's studies obviously didn't get anywhere near to defining or explaining the light in full, but if they were to continue, maybe one day they could and it wouldn't have had to use the term "magic".
 
I think the island's alive. The heart of the island is literally its heart, and it pumps the water around like blood.

Or something. I dunno.


Have there been any good theories on what the hell the healing pool was and why it was dirty?
 
KevinCow said:
I think the island's alive. The heart of the island is literally its heart, and it pumps the water around like blood.

Or something. I dunno.


Have there been any good theories on what the hell the healing pool was and why it was dirty?
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healing pool was definitely related to that stuff that came from the heart of the island.

I guess it went dark because the balance had shifted to Smokey.
 
Solo said:
Shit, there IS a volcano on the island. Yeah, the volcano erupting would have been a cool backdrop.
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Uhhh I thought the volcano is under the cork that Desmond took off. Then it started rumbling and shit came crashing down, and it got all red under the place where the cork was. So I'd assume that's the volcano right?

I thought you guys would have figured this out by now.
 
MMaRsu said:
Uhhh I thought the volcano is under the cork that Desmond took off. Then it started rumbling and shit came crashing down, and it got all red under the place where the cork was. So I'd assume that's the volcano right?

I thought you guys would have figured this out by now.
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it's HELLLLLLL

ACTUALLY since there are no more spoilers anymore, I read some of the leaked script pages and for those cave scenes it's written as

INT. HELL
 
So, how's this for a fanwank:

In S4, the mercenary that was injured by Smokey and brought back to the freighter by Keamy wasn't actually the merc, but Smokey in disguise. Then in the finale, Smokey, playing dead, shapeshifts into Christian in order to tell Michael that he "can go now."
 
Blader5489 said:
So, how's this for a fanwank:

In S4, the mercenary that was injured by Smokey and brought back to the freighter by Keamy wasn't actually the merc, but Smokey in disguise. Then in the finale, Smokey, playing dead, shapeshifts into Christian in order to tell Michael that he "can go now."
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Bleh!!

I'm just going with the theory that it was Christian on the freighter telling Michael to essentially "Let Go." It's riddled with plot holes but makes the most sense.
 
Blader5489 said:
So, how's this for a fanwank:

In S4, the mercenary that was injured by Smokey and brought back to the freighter by Keamy wasn't actually the merc, but Smokey in disguise. Then in the finale, Smokey, playing dead, shapeshifts into Christian in order to tell Michael that he "can go now."
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We have officially gone to the height of convolution.
 
I wonder if What Kate Does would still seem so shitty and wasteful if we went back and watched it now, knowing what we know.

Probably.
 
Zeliard said:
I wonder if What Kate Does would still seem so shitty and wasteful if we went back and watched it now, knowing what we know.

Probably.
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Not sure why, since it was never shitty to begin with. What happened, happened.
 
Zeliard said:
I wonder if What Kate Does would still seem so shitty and wasteful if we went back and watched it now, knowing what we know.

Probably.
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I think I'll happy to just not be scoffing at all the guests showing up. Makes a lot more sense now.
 
Zeliard said:
I wonder if What Kate Does would still seem so shitty and wasteful if we went back and watched it now, knowing what we know.

Probably.
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Any kate episode is automatic shit IMO. Sorry but i cant stand her at all.
 
PM me for a cool Damon interview from Saturday, the day right before the finale.

Edit: Damon says we never got specific info on "the rules" is so that the audience mimics the Losties.
 
Willy105 said:
I've noticed that more and more scripts are becoming more vulgar to express emotions in the scene.
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I'd read that they'd long used "blue" or "off" "color" language in scripts. Jorge mentioned that he often has to throat clear instead of using "swears" in dialogue.
 
Damon: Me and Carlton knew we had a "Walt" problem since the word go.

Malcolm just got too old to realistically address him. :lol

Walt
will be in the bonus stuff.
 
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