LOST 06.17/18/18.5: "The End" (Everything Else Was Just Progress)

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brandonh83 said:
I just think people too often undermine how difficult writing something like Lost actually is. It's easy to shit on something but writing or creating anything like this must be a heavily daunting task and I'm pretty sure they're extremely proud of themselves for getting it through to the end. I'm not saying that's an excuse for flaws. It's not. Lost certainly has a few of them. However, I don't think it has a lot of them and I tend to focus on what they did right-- which for me was a great deal.
I get what you're saying... but I do think it has lots of flaws. Like... lots. Really.
And it wouldn't bother me so much if the series didn't take itself so seriously, if the writers weren't so damn smug about it all, or if the fans (or a bunch of them, anyway, I don't mean to make hasty generalizations) weren't so vocal about it being the greatest TV show ever.

Oh hush the only thing that matters right now is this apparently botched piece of shit "soundtrack"
Hey, I never said the music was a botched piece of shit! :lol
I'm just talking about the writing, here, really. I don't have anything against those who worked on the other aspects of the show.
 
That wasn't meant as anything about the soundtrack related to anything you've said about it

WHY IS MOVING ON A BONUS TRACK

WHY IS IT A BONUS TRACK

OH

THIS IS THE BEST TRACK FROM THE ENTIRE FUCKING GODDAMN SERIES

but its just a bonus we threw in

WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THIS AND HOW CAN I CONTACT THEM

I know they usually royally fuck up movie/TV soundtracks. I know. I'm a fan of musical scores, so I know all about it.

BUT THIS IS A WHOLE NEW FUCKING REALM OF SHAME

When I find out who did this I am going to throw them in a river that flows through my body and out of my asshole
 
DeathNote said:
what si your avatar brandonh83? looks like... camron diaz?

I'm about to get a new avatar

one that depicts the people responsible for this tragedy being thrown into the cave and shat out the other end

in half

its from Metroid Other M
 
brandonh83 said:
I'm about to get a new avatar

one that depicts the people responsible for this tragedy being thrown into the cave and shat out the other end

in half

its from Metroid Other M
oh, haven't been following Wii at all. I need a new HDTV cause it looks like poop on it. 720p rear proj.
 
threenote said:
soundtrack is kinda disappointing. I want more The End songs. WTF.

kinda disappointing

my god

it's like they invited Giacchino to a party, and after he passed out from being drunk they drew penises on his forehead with a permanent marker and little squiggles for pubic hair around the balls and said "thanks for the music for the last season shitface, your music for The End sucked so we'll just include those as BONUS tracks to make them feel lucky like a dog getting table scraps"

god I want to fight someone and burn down houses

DeathNote said:
did they leave out songs on previous season soundtracks?

It's rare that you get soundtracks with all the music from something included. But here, they literally STOP at episode 14, and include music from the finale, arguably the best, most powerful music in the entire series as fucking bonus tracks. No music at all from Across the Sea or What They Died For seems to be included but maybe they're in one of those "bonus" tracks.
 
brandonh83 said:
That wasn't meant as anything about the soundtrack related to anything you've said about it

WHY IS MOVING ON A BONUS TRACK

WHY IS IT A BONUS TRACK

OH

THIS IS THE BEST TRACK FROM THE ENTIRE FUCKING GODDAMN SERIES

but its just a bonus we threw in

WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THIS AND HOW CAN I CONTACT THEM
:lol :lol :lol
 
brandonh83 said:
kinda disappointing

my god

it's like they invited Giacchino to a party, and after he passed out from being drunk they drew penises on his forehead with a permanent marker and little squiggles for pubic hair around the balls and said "thanks for the music for the last season shitface, your music for The End sucked so we'll just include those as BONUS tracks to make them feel lucky like a dog getting table scraps"

god I want to fight someone and burn down houses



It's rare that you get soundtracks with all the music from something included. But here, they literally STOP at episode 14, and include music from the finale, arguably the best, most powerful music in the entire series as fucking bonus tracks. No music at all from Across the Sea or What They Died For seems to be included but maybe they're in one of those "bonus" tracks.
I'm guessing some of the tracks are combined (especially the long ones). So here's hoping we get all the good stuff. WTDF and AtS had amazing music, so I'd be EXTREMELY disappointed if Youg Giacc screws us over.

edit: I want to add that I listen to the opening scene for The End multiple times per day. I watch the final scene (mostly for the music) twice a week. It's been routine ever since Lost ended.
 
threenote said:
I'm guessing some of the tracks are combined (especially the long ones). So here's hoping we get all the good stuff. WTDF and AtS had amazing music, so I'd be EXTREMELY disappointed if Youg Giacc screws us over.

Yeah I mean you know that fucking pimp theme at the end of What They Died For when Desmond gets everyone together at the end? Another one of the absolute best new themes and one of the best pieces of music in the last season down the fucking shitter.

I listen to a shitty recording of the final sequence on my ipod when I'm out as well as the beginning montage of Christian's casket being unloaded quite frequently.
 
brandonh83 said:
It's rare that you get soundtracks with all the music from something included. But here, they literally STOP at episode 14, and include music from the finale, arguably the best, most powerful music in the entire series as fucking bonus tracks. No music at all from Across the Sea or What They Died For seems to be included but maybe they're in one of those "bonus" tracks.
... Doesn't it kinda look like you guys should expect a separate release for those last episodes?
 
Erigu said:
... Doesn't it kinda look like you guys should expect a separate release for those last episodes?

Like I said, it seems like this may happen, but there's no indication of that on this release. Usually when they do that, it's signified by a "vol. 1 and vol. 2" release, like the Halo 2, Metal Gear Solid 2, etc. soundtracks. But there is nothing in the title of this soundtrack release that indicates that it's incomplete, even though it cuts off at the end of The Candidate with an additional two bonus tracks that looks like music from the final scene in the finale "Moving On" and something else which could be anything.
 
Blader5489 said:
The Christian-casket-unloading piece is there, it's called LAX.

That track is from the first episode, right near the beginning of disc 1, when Oceanic 815 lands in L.A. I'm talking about the opening scene from The End.
 
brandonh83 said:
Yeah I mean you know that fucking pimp theme at the end of What They Died For when Desmond gets everyone together at the end? Another one of the absolute best new themes and one of the best pieces of music in the last season down the fucking shitter.

I listen to a shitty recording of the final sequence on my ipod when I'm out as well as the beginning montage of Christian's casket being unloaded quite frequently.
This?

fucking awesome song, man.
 
brandonh83 said:
That track is from the first episode, right near the beginning of disc 1, when Oceanic 815 lands in L.A. I'm talking about the opening scene from The End.

Yeah I know, but it's the same piece, isn't it?
 
threenote said:
This?

fucking awesome song, man.

Yes. It's some of the best shit Giacchino has ever did. Love the sense of urgency and playfulness to it and it also carries the vibe that the story is about to reach its climax.

Blader5489 said:
Yeah I know, but it's the same piece, isn't it?

I don't recall it being but... hell you might be right.

edit: it is the same music. I still hate them.
 
brandonh83 said:
Yes. It's some of the best shit Giacchino has ever did. Love the sense of urgency and playfulness to it and it also carries the vibe that the story is about to reach its climax.



I don't recall it being but... hell you might be right.

edit: it is the same music. I still hate them.
Yep. I remember watching that scene now. My blood was rushing, and I was absolutely pumped in anticipation for the finale. I wish I can relive that again.
 
Erigu said:
I get what you're saying... but I do think it has lots of flaws. Like... lots. Really.
And it wouldn't bother me so much if the series didn't take itself so seriously, if the writers weren't so damn smug about it all, or if the fans (or a bunch of them, anyway, I don't mean to make hasty generalizations) weren't so vocal about it being the greatest TV show ever.

So you're doing this because there are lots of people who find LOST to be their favourite show.

Its just an opinion, ive watched all of The Wire and i think LOST is way better, but I next to never shit on a wire(or other favourite shows) threads
 
It's clear that there's another soundtrack release coming. I mean...if you actually think they're going to not release anything from the finale or the three episodes leading up to it save for two 'bonus tracks', you need your head examined. The term 'bonus tracks' sort of gives the whole thing away, I would have thought.

As much as I love the sheer volume of music that we'll eventually be getting, it still kind of pisses me off that I'm going to have a longer wait to hear the finale score (which was what I was most looking forward to from this release). I'm angry and ecstatically happy at the same time, and for the same reason. It's an unusual feeling. :D
 
Guys what happened to solo?


I really hope I can wait til a good sale on the complete collection.. I was going to buy it day 1 but decided not too, because I'm not going to watch LOST for a few years...
 
Hey guys.. we probably should make a separate thread for the dvd/blu-ray release of season 6.. easier to moderate..

I could do it but I'm sure someone could do a better job plus I'm waiting until it goes down in price anyways.
 
neoism said:
Guys what happened to solo?


I really hope I can wait til a good sale on the complete collection.. I was going to buy it day 1 but decided not too, because I'm not going to watch LOST for a few years...

BANNED
 
Erigu said:
That they knew it wasn't a mini-series, that they knew that if the show proved successful, it would be picked up.
They didn't consider that possibility, really?

I just gave you a fucking interview where they say they never thought that would happen. Seriously, are you claiming you know their intentions better than they do?
 
Transcript of the Black Rock letter, from the complete series box:

Front:

adequately portray the horrors of this fearful night. A strange mist has enveloped the ship. It is unusual and has put everyone ill at ease...

December 15? - The mist has totally disappeared and it is broad daylight. Despite best efforts to navigate away from the island, we cannot seem to escape its pull, and anxious rumors are spreading. Our compasses are rendered inert for reasons that mystify me.

Incomprehensible altogether is the conduct of Captain Hanso he prattles away the merest nonsense about the island and writes in his journal senseless equations. He was overheard asking Mhifield, "Is it 1881?" I cannot bring myself to the conclusion that the man is mad.

December 16? - The first to abandon his past was Thayer, a man I mentioned before as exhibiting something of a mutinous spirit. After complaining for days of headache and hallucinations, it would appear he has suffered a malady of the brain as blood rushes from his nostrils with no hope if stopping the flow. Before he explained in the doctors arms, he spoke as if a ten year old boy asking his mother for sweets.

Other members of the crew have begun to complain of similar headaches. The island is now off the port... was it not just starboard?

December 18? - An away team of six men was launched at first light in an attempt to get to the island with hopes of determining our location.

Only one returned alive. He seems in a deep shock, muttering about exchanging musket fire with another vessel which promptly disappeared in a flash of heavenly light. He went on to claim that after hours of traversing the island, his five crewmates simply jumped overboard as if lemmings and no degree of coaxing could persuade them back into the boat. They drowned. Every one.

There will be no more away teams.

Back:

December 19? - I awoke paralyzed by fear. Amidst the sounds of the night, there was something else. Though faint it sounded like the whispering of voices seemingly all around me. Then a scream froze in my throat - In the doorway to my cabin stood a shape -

It was Captain Hanso. Pale and fearful as if he'd seen the devil himself. I provided him a whiskey with h opes of putting him back in bed should any crewmember see him in this state, but the poor man seemed beyond calming. His mind was beset by conspiracies involving a man he called "Jacob" who Hanso believed commissioned this very expedition with the intention of bringing us to this maddening place.

Once Hanso was back in his quarters, I immediately reviewed the shipping receipts, but found no mention of any "Jacob"

If anyone is to get us out of this, it will not be that fool.

December 22? - Our lookout claims he has spotted two men on the shore of the island at the foot of the statue that has the crew so concerned. Another hallucination, no doubt. The wind freshened considerably... it appears a storm is imminent.

God save us all.
 
Desiato said:
Holy shit.:lol

I think it's pretty cool myself, though people have went to many lengths to debunk the logic :lol

personally, I think based on what we do know about the time-traveling properties and how it works, I don't have a problem with it.
 
bogg said:
Is lost-gaf going to have a S6 re-watch?

The last rewatch thread was a bit of a miss with how few people stuck to any kind of schedule.

The "LOST |OT|" thread is going to be the evergreen discussion thread whenever it gets made, including people watching whatever episodes they liked.

I think BB should do it. It needs a hell of an OP.

Oh, and a james sinclair spoiler warning or eight :lol :lol :lol



Anyhow, I'm okay with the Black Rock outrigger explanation. It's not their original intent with the scene, but because there was never an answer it isn't a retcon, either.
 
Does anyone know if The Complete Collection on Blu-Ray is region free at all? I know some, but not all of the normal box sets on Blu-Ray were region free. Doesn't look like us in the UK are going to get the sweet looking box set that you Americans are getting! :(
 
Merovin said:
Does anyone know if The Complete Collection on Blu-Ray is region free at all? I know some, but not all of the normal box sets on Blu-Ray were region free. Doesn't look like us in the UK are going to get the sweet looking box set that you Americans are getting! :(

I would answer that but it will just lead to another question
 
brandonh83 said:
I think it's pretty cool myself, though people have went to many lengths to debunk the logic :lol

personally, I think based on what we do know about the time-traveling properties and how it works, I don't have a problem with it.
Of course it's cool, clever even. Still full of holes.

but if that's what they're officially going with, I'm ok with that.
 
But... wait. They found the outriggers in 2007 or later, because there was an Ajira bottle in one of them. Then they didn't flash again until after the outrigger shootout. So how could it possibly be guys from the Black Rock? Unless there was a time flash offscreen.
 
KevinCow said:
But... wait. They found the outriggers in 2007 or later, because there was an Ajira bottle in one of them. Then they didn't flash again until after the outrigger shootout. So how could it possibly be guys from the Black Rock? Unless there was a time flash offscreen.

it is polarizing
 
KevinCow said:
But... wait. They found the outriggers in 2007 or later, because there was an Ajira bottle in one of them. Then they didn't flash again until after the outrigger shootout. So how could it possibly be guys from the Black Rock? Unless there was a time flash offscreen.

Oh, I think you're right.
 
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