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I just finished watching the show after taking a break from mid-season 4. The show was great for the reminder of season 4 but then it became odd, almost an entirely different show. It suddenly became more about "magic" and "believing" to the point that it felt like I was watching some religious drama with the cast of Lost. Season 5 worked but season 6 excluding the last episodes was total trash, it just felt so bad that all these people are connected and of course they all meet etc. I almost felt tricked to believe that there was some greater explanation behind the show other than what everyone had just assumed from the start.
I might have felt different if I had watched it from start to finish in a short period or even followed the show as it aired. It just felt odd coming back expecting something and then being given something else.
I might have felt different if I had watched it from start to finish in a short period or even followed the show as it aired. It just felt odd coming back expecting something and then being given something else.
InaudibleWhispa
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Really? That's pretty much been one of the common themes of the show from the beginning.rezuth said:
Everyone assumed at the start that they died in the plane crash and the island was purgatory. That wasn't the case.rezuth said:
StuBurns said:
I thought that opening scene was ridiculously awesome, but I never thought about it again. All it did was show "this is a separate reality". It never really got me into a train of thought that would consider the island being underwater being important beyond that.
The key to enjoying Lost.Willy105 said:
Yeah, islands sink like that all the damn time. Why would one take notice? It's just another case of some viewers (haters!) seeing mysteries where there aren't... Oh.
So either they blatantly lied or they changed their mind late in the game (I'd bet it was the latter, myself). Either way, they're hacks.
And yet, you'll still find "hardcore fans" (read "suckers") to defend those guys and their show... "Lost", indeed.
That's part of what made Lost so hilarious. "Oh, shit, science vs. faith, you guys! So deep!"Blader5489 said:
Say, why was Jack, the guy who chose to ignore all the weird stuff happening around him for the most part of the show (from some gigantic pilot-munching thingy to a whole island disappearing before his eyes) referred to as "a man of science", again? What was scientific about that attitude?
And how was it "faith" to acknowledge all that stuff (pretty hard not to when you instantly recover from severe paralysis right off the bat) and try to understand what's going on?
But hey, never mind that.
InaudibleWhispa
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And yet, most of these "hardcore fans" have moved on and you're still the "sucker" googling interview snippets to try and belittle the show and the opinions of only the most ardent of fans for months on end.Erigu said:
Seriously I have never happened upon someone on the internet so vehemently hostile about a piece of entertainment to so few for such a long period of time. You have seriously wasted more time disliking Lost over the past few months than I have spent liking it. It is perhaps more futile, useless and sad than even the worst trolls that spring to mind.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't know, I kind of agree with him. The ending was just a series of asspulls which only made any kind of sense if you just intentionally willed yourself to not notice how terrible they were. I felt pretty cheated after spending a lot of time thinking about what was going on to figure out that neither Damon nor Carlton had thought about it much at all.InaudibleWhispa said:
I can at least see why you'd have an extended period of being pissed off.
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Dislike show immensely.
Continue to care about it almost a year after it's over.
Continue to care about it almost a year after it's over.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Personally, I was pretty pissed off at the time the finale aired, but I haven't really thought about it until I saw this thread bumped back up. I just came in because I figured maybe Lindelof shed some light on the millions of loose ends they never bothered to fix.SpeedingUptoStop said:
faceless007
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Oh hey, Erigu's still here. I would have thought when the smilies were taken away he would have found it difficult to find a reason to keep going.
InaudibleWhispa
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You can dislike the ending all you want. I have zero problem with that. Lord knows how many hours I've spent debating Lost over the years. It is the fact that he has been here since the show has finished, ripping into any kind of discussion. Not just the finale, but pretty much any character or concept from the show. He hates it. And he has been talking about hating it every time the thread is bumped for months. You'd think wasting so much time watching a show you hate would be bad enough...Angry Grimace said:
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Naw, I was addressing Erigu with that. It's past being obsessive with him.Angry Grimace said:
Nowadays, with time to really reflect on season 6 , I just get a bad taste in my mouth whenever I read any Darlton interviews. Whether or not they succeded at ending the show right, you have to agree they come off as smug douches with all the answers they give. I never noticed it before, but now I can't read them without rolling my eyes.
... I don't think you understand the meaning of "sucker".InaudibleWhispa said:
Well, it's not like I'm pissed off at the outcome: I saw it coming pretty early on. But the show getting praise for its writing? Get outta here.Angry Grimace said:
I wish more people realized how stupid (and yet hilariously pretentious) the whole thing was, so we could kiss good bye to the wave of idiotic shows it inspired.
No, I think it's completely stupid on pretty much every level, that's different. What I would "hate" is the fact it passes for great (or even decent) writing. Now, that's just fucking sad.InaudibleWhispa said:
But hey, if you think I'm wrong about that, what's the problem, right?
And of course, you're also free to explain how/why I'm wrong; it would certainly be more interesting than what you're doing right now.
ThLunarian
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Lost is an awesome show.
I have nothing but positive (and bittersweet) memories associated with it.
I <3 Lost. Can't wait til it feels right to do a rewatch.
I have nothing but positive (and bittersweet) memories associated with it.
I <3 Lost. Can't wait til it feels right to do a rewatch.
njean777
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Ahh Lost my favorite show that I have ever watched in its entirety still have the avatar also LOL
But anyways TBH Eringu what other show that is not on cable has had writing anywhere near the work that was put into Lost? I would really like to know cuz TBH i can not think of one.
But anyways TBH Eringu what other show that is not on cable has had writing anywhere near the work that was put into Lost? I would really like to know cuz TBH i can not think of one.
Catalix
And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
I know what you mean, I've been feeling the itch lately. But the longer I dwell on the thought, the more I realize it's still way too soon for me. No re-watch in my near future.ThLunarian said:
When the time comes, I'm diving back in head first.
Just what amount of work was put into Lost, writing-wise? What amount of work -or skill- does it take to simply add more and more characters and nonsensical "wouldn't it be cool if..." twists for years without bothering to have it all fit together?njean777 said:
(also, "that is not on cable"? why?)
njean777
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Erigu said:
cuz believe it or not some people do not have cable nor do they want it. Plus Lost was available / mass market to everybody not just subscribers. Im pretty sure most Tv shows on cable are given more time/money to develop the plot or whatever I may be wrong but I assume they do.
Also they answered all the important questions, whether you like how they did it or not. A good story has certain parts where you are suppose to fill in the gaps. All the important plot points I feel they answered.
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Deleted member 22576
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Sweet, just put on "I do." One of my favorite episodes ever.
Er... Yeah, but it's not like that should really prevent you from watching cable shows?njean777 said:
Really, now?
What was up with Jacob's brother? Why was it so important that he didn't leave the island? How would that be "the end of everything"? Why was he killing people left and right if he just wanted to leave? Why did he suddenly decide to destroy the island when his adoptive mother told him that would end all life?
What was up with Jacob? Why didn't he simply pick a successor off-island? Why didn't he simply make it a rule that the light couldn't be approached? Didn't he say he was bringing all those people in order to prove a point to his brother? What happened to that?
And of course, what took those two so long before getting off their asses?
Just a few examples off the top of my head regarding the big picture. There would be so much more.
I guess writing a bad story actually takes more work/skill than writing a good one, then. That's a convenient little principle. A tad simplistic, perhaps.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think what annoyed me the most about it was that it felt like they were taking these well-loved characters they had developed from S1-4 and turned them into weird symbolic concepts.rezuth said:
I suppose I don't mind that there was a lot of symbolism involved in the storyline. What I do mind is that the show's actual story resolution was all symbolism and metaphor. It ended up feeling like the TV equivalent of the Matrix sequels.
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Ha! Totally forgot it's the taco night episode!threenote said:
I just wanted to watch for Kate talking to Jack on the radio and retelling him the story he told her in the pilot.
That's definitely on the shortlist for my favorite moments of the entire show.
njean777
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Erigu said:
1. He was suppose to be the next protector not jacob, but he turned on mother and killed her for lying to him about "end of everything" and not letting him leave the island.
2.The point Jacob was trying to make was that there was good in people, which the brother said alls people do is kill and destroy. Which in the end the point was moot since they both died.
3.I have no clue what you are talking about " what took so long getting those two off off their asses".
Now im not gonna argue all your arguments that you are gonna throw next Cuz its already apparent that whatever answer anybody gives, will not be enough for you. You are simply a hater, which needs to just let it die. We know you do not like Lost WE GET IT.
Erigu said:
I don't mean any hard feelings, just a knee jerk reaction.. to be honest, I would rather see a love fest in this thread.. but I think your well thought out criticisms are valuable for a couple of reasons.
LOST represents a sizeable influence to me as an amateur/aspiring writer. I'm taking part in this years scriptfrenzy and the screenplay I'm working on is influenced in no small part by this show. I'd love for you to look it over, once its done, and see if and how it resonates with you.
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It's not the criticism, its the douchiness.
I'm ALL FOR reading opinions about LOST's shortcomings. [Let's face it, as great as the show is, there are tons.]
I just don't want to be called a dumbass for still loving it while I do so.
I'm ALL FOR reading opinions about LOST's shortcomings. [Let's face it, as great as the show is, there are tons.]
I just don't want to be called a dumbass for still loving it while I do so.
Er... No, he was pissed off at her because she hid his true origins from him and destroyed his magical wheel.njean777 said:
So again:
Why was it so important that he didn't leave the island? How would that be "the end of everything"? Why was he killing people left and right if he just wanted to leave? Why did he suddenly decide to destroy the island when his adoptive mother told him that would end all life?
I've seen the episode: I know what point Jacob was trying to make. But what was up with that?
Why was he so intent on proving his point (which actually goes against what their adoptive mother taught them, but never mind that, I guess)? I mean, that's apparently why he was bringing a whole bunch of people on an island where a smoke monster was just waiting to kill them all (for some reason), so one would think he had a pretty good reason... But then again, in the end: "please find a way to kill my brother, kthnksbye!" ... Wut?
Let's forget for a second that Jacob could have opted not to bring his candidates to the island (why? so they'd have a shot at getting indirectly killed by his brother?)... Let's say he needed to bring them. For some reason. Why did he wait three years to finally approach them? If protecting the light is so damn important, why wait after his own death? "Gee, guys, now that I'm dead, you really, really need to volunteer, quick quick."
(and of course, there's the fact he just let himself get killed, too... sounds like a plan!)
Same thing for his brother: with all his powers, how come it took him thousands of years to get someone to kill Jacob? Same thing for the candidates: if the rules that prevented him from killing the candidates could be circumvented so easily ("sure, I planted the bomb, but you tried to defuse it, so there!"), what took him so long?
Shitty "answers" won't do, no. Sorry.
I wouldn't call you a dumbass for loving the show. I might call you a dumbass for saying it's well written though. Or I'd really want to see some arguments.Jtwo said:
Erigu said:
It's unhealthy when you do it for 6 months (and that's just this thread. I remember you posting in the season 6 thread, too). That's when it becomes an obsession. And I've never seen you post anywhere else on GAF. So you're only here to say how much Lost sucks. It's weird.
InaudibleWhispa
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It isn't a cheap shot. It really is weird spending so long disliking something and telling us over and over for months, tearing apart any conversation between fans. It's weird that you even watched hundreds of episodes of a show that you dislike so much. Sure, I spend quite a bit of time on GAF. But I spend it reading about and discussing things I am passionate about. Very, very little of my time is spent going into a thread for something I dislike to say "I didn't like this, here's why" and if I do, I'll leave it at that one interaction. Most things I dislike I just scroll past the threads avoiding even looking into them.Erigu said:
If you did what you're doing now in every thread for a video game repeatedly for months on end, I've no doubt you would have been banned a long time ago. And it isn't because you dislike it, which is fine, it's because you persistently dislike it for so long souring every interaction in the thread.
Guys it's not hard to press the Enter button.
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