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Erigu said:
To be fair, you didn't say "I LIKE THE WIRE", you said that it is an example of a show that doesn't use the 'cliffhanger' to commercial/credits like LOST.

That post didn't scream "I LIKE THE WIRE".

Erigu said:
Yes, I'm sure that's all you wanted. It's not like you wanted to make it all about me once again, and to portray me as someone who simply doesn't like TV shows (which would explain why I don't like Lost... what else would there be?). Or if it was, it was so subtle no one could possibly notice.

Oh come off it. Like you haven't once, twice, three or four million times (pretend those are links to some of your replies that I don't care enough to look for) made a point, and then thrown in unnecessary 'flair' to pile on.

If you didn't do that, this thread would have half as many replies.

Real talk.
 
Didn't anyone ever teach you guys that you should never feed the trolls?

It took just one exchange with Erigu for me to figure out that even though he's seriously lacking in the strength of argument department, he more than makes up for it with pure relentless attrition. I was faced with the choice of spending the the next hour+ reading & responding to his drivel or letting him keep his bad opinions and doing something more productive with my time(which is pretty much anything).
 
Nameless said:
Didn't anyone ever teach you guys that you should never feed the trolls?

It took just one exchange with Erigu for me to figure out that even though he's seriously lacking in the strength of argument department, he more than makes up for it with pure relentless attrition. I was faced with the choice of spending the the next hour+ reading & responding to his drivel or letting him keep his bad opinions and doing something more productive with my time(which is pretty much anything).

My role is exclusively feeding him now. It's actually quite fun. Just think of what will make him throw a hissy fit, and post it. Then wait for the postgasm where he flips the fuck out.

Oh and BTW, he's going to post this soon:

Erigu said:
Nameless said:
even though he's seriously lacking in the strength of argument department, he more than makes up for it with pure relentless attrition.
WAAAAAAAH YOU R A BULLY
 
oatmeal said:
To be fair, you didn't say "I LIKE THE WIRE", you said that it is an example of a show that doesn't use the 'cliffhanger' to commercial/credits like LOST.
That post didn't scream "I LIKE THE WIRE".
It also said it was compelling. But yeah, you're right: so many possible interpretations.


Nameless said:
he's seriously lacking in the strength of argument department
If you say so.
 
oatmeal said:
Oh and BTW, he's going to post this soon:

JUDGES, LET'S SEE HOW OATMEAL DID...

Oatmeal says...
Erigu said:
Nameless said:
even though he's seriously lacking in the strength of argument department, he more than makes up for it with pure relentless attrition.
WAAAAAAAH YOU R A BULLY

...

SURVEY SAYS!!!!

Erigu said:
Nameless said:
even though he's seriously lacking in the strength of argument department, he more than makes up for it with pure relentless attrition.
If you say so.

OH! No...it was "If you say so."

Darn.


Erigu said:
It also said it was compelling. But yeah, you're right: so many possible interpretations.

I think videos of people of people throwing up are compelling, but I don't consider myself a fan and watch them all the time.

There's one interpretation for you.

If only you could interpret LOST correctly...used that giant cranium of yours to figure out a show that REALLY isn't that complex. If only...

*waits to refresh*
 
Solo said:
Thread is worse than Across the Sea.
No shit. This thread is garbage. I post a long interpretation of the ending on the last page and I didn't get a single response. Erigu trolls the thread and gets a ton of responses, deflecting away from real discussion by going around and around in circles with the same 3 or 4 people. Why even come in here if it's just an Erigu vs. Rest of Thread back and forth? I wanted some honest discussion about the show and it's just a troll-a-thon. I think this thread should be shut down, it's garbage.
 
UraMallas said:
No shit. This thread is garbage. I post a long interpretation of the ending on the last page and I didn't get a single response. Erigu trolls the thread and gets a ton of responses, deflecting away from real discussion by going around and around in circles with the same 3 or 4 people. Why even come in here if it's just an Erigu vs. Rest of Thread back and forth? I wanted some honest discussion about the show and it's just a troll-a-thon. I think this thread should be shut down, it's garbage.

It's not like he won't follow everyone into that one.
 
UraMallas said:
No shit. This thread is garbage. I post a long interpretation of the ending on the last page and I didn't get a single response. Erigu trolls the thread and gets a ton of responses, deflecting away from real discussion by going around and around in circles with the same 3 or 4 people. Why even come in here if it's just an Erigu vs. Rest of Thread back and forth? I wanted some honest discussion about the show and it's just a troll-a-thon. I think this thread should be shut down, it's garbage.

Sorry dude, come back when the battle is won!
 
Salmonax said:
I'd almost forgotten what a great time people had watching this show.
Yeah, it really was great. I don't know if its because of the the greatness of that finale or the change in tone and quality of the last two seasons, but Lost threads haven't seen that kind of unanimous enthusiasm in a long ass time.

Also, I guess props should go out to manabyte for being the first to call Locke being in the coffin. But I guess at that point we barely had anything to go on so it was just pulling names out of a hat. I remember those times, coming up with crazy predictions all the time. I remember some people thinking Michael was in the coffin because the funeral home looked like it was in an African American neighborhood :lol.
 
Calcaneus said:
I remember some people thinking Michael was in the coffin because the funeral home looked like it was in an African American neighborhood :lol.

Speaking of which, why didn't the writers explain WHY Locke was in that particular funeral home? It's incredible how much important information they left out of this show. Charlatans.
 
Catalix said:
Damn, stole my answer :) I've always had a soft spot for Catch 22, often dubbed 'the weakest Desmond episode.'

I dunno, I just thought there was a lot more to chew on in that 44 mins than most people gave it credit for. Desmond investigating the helicopter crash from his vision, along with wrestling over the issue of sacrificing Charlie, kept me hooked throughout. A lot of fun little moments too, like: Jin's ghost story, the Superman vs. Flash debate, and finally getting a sense of how Desmond's visions worked. Plus, the Naomi reveal at the end was highly intriguing. I remember it being a turning point in season 3 for me.

Oh yeah, Des and Penny also meet for the first time. Lovely.
I miss Lost so much. :(
 
threenote said:
I miss Lost so much. :(
those were the days...

goddam
 
Anyone else listening to the Jay And Jack rewatch?

It's fun to listen, I'm not doing the rewatch, but still nice to hear about certain things I may have forgotten about.
 
Thanks for reminding me of that awesome episode Catalix (Catch-22). I'd rather have posts reminiscing about those good moments than Erigu's bickering ruining the thread.

One of my new favourite moments in the show is when Jacob says: "Now that, I can do." I told my brother, who's only seen a couple of episodes of Lost (and who doesn't plan on watching the show), about Richard Alpert, and about how he doesn't age. Then I showed him the youtube video where Jacob and Alpert meet for the first time. We both were beaming profusely once Jacob said "Now that, I can do." I love it.

"Bring my wife back!"

"Can't do that."

"Absolve me of my sins!"

"Can't do that either."

"Fine, I want to live forever!"

*puts hand on Alpert's shoulder with a grin*

"Now that - (insert awesome pause) - I can do."
 
Hey Erigu, what did you think of that part when they're talking about how they have no food and they're all worried but then all of sudden Locke chucks a knife and tells motherfuckers what is up?

Pretty cool?
 
Snuggler said:
Hey Erigu, what did you think of that part when they're talking about how they have no food and they're all worried but then all of sudden Locke chucks a knife and tells motherfuckers what is up?
Not much?
 
I still listen to "Locke'd Out Again" every few days or so.

Kind of annoying how they have the suspenseful, scary part at the very end. I know it made sense during the episode airing, but now it kind of gets in the way.
 
Montresor said:
Thanks for reminding me of that awesome episode Catalix (Catch-22). I'd rather have posts reminiscing about those good moments than Erigu's bickering ruining the thread.

One of my new favourite moments in the show is when Jacob says: "Now that, I can do." I told my brother, who's only seen a couple of episodes of Lost (and who doesn't plan on watching the show), about Richard Alpert, and about how he doesn't age. Then I showed him the youtube video where Jacob and Alpert meet for the first time. We both were beaming profusely once Jacob said "Now that, I can do." I love it.

"Bring my wife back!"

"Can't do that."

"Absolve me of my sins!"

"Can't do that either."

"Fine, I want to live forever!"

*puts hand on Alpert's shoulder with a grin*

"Now that - (insert awesome pause) - I can do."

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Oh hai guys, can someone explain the cabin to me. They gave it so much attention, I must've just missed the episode where they explained the origin all of it's mystical powers. KTHNXBAI
 
cnizzle06 said:
Oh hai guys, can someone explain the cabin to me.
Well, it really isn't that complicated.

For a long time, Jacob lived under the statue because why not.
But then, Horace Goodspeed from the DHARMA Initiative decided to build a cabin. And it was so sweet that Jacob decided to move there, presumably after Horace's death (could it be the reason for the Purge? was Jacob interested in real estate? speculation time!).
The cabin was surrounded by a ring of magical ash (like regular ash, except magical... isn't that all you need to know about it?) as a measure of protection against the Man in Black (of course, it's not like Jacob could be killed by his brother, but hey, maybe he had a cat and didn't feel like turning it into a Man-in-Black-proof candidate).
Chances are Ben knew where the cabin was because he used to come there with Richard (only to be told to stay outside and play in the dirt while the grown-ups are talking, as that is the Leader's Sacred Duty... understandably, Widmore was pissed about having been robbed of that and would plot his revenge for years).
But then, one day, Jacob decided to move back to the statue and aren't we glad we bothered with that cabin in the first place?

At some point during the series, Ben showed the cabin to Locke and pretended Jacob was there and invisible. See, Ben was acting like he knew a great deal about the mysteries of the island and what was going on, but he was actually pretty damn clueless and Locke kept pestering him for answers, so he decided to just come up with some nonsense in order to shut him up for a while. Only dicks would do that, but then again, only extremely gullible people would fall for it, right?
Anyway, the circle of ash had been broken (which makes no sense to me, really: a circle of ash sounds like a perfect barrier and I can't for the life of me imagine how such a thing could have happened, unless there was a windy day or the Man in Black realized he could just blow on it or use some basic tool), and the Man in Black was also there. He pulled some kind of poltergeist act with his seldom-used telekinesis and told Locke "help me". Because that's... beneficial? Well, we should just trust the guy: he's been trying to leave the island for thousands of years, so he probably had his reasons to do apparently random shit like that.
Of course, Ben went "what the f... I mean, yeeeeeah, that was just Jacob, ha ha ha!"

Then, the cabin started moving around.
Hurley stumbled upon it once, and the Man in Black was in it, both as Jack's father and as another figure that gave Hurley a good scare (yes, the Man in Black can also do that). There again, it was all part of the Plan.
Then, Locke had a dream that told him how to find the cabin (just get Horace's map and follow it! after all, how else do you find moving cabins?) in order to talk to Jacob (as said above, Jacob hadn't been using that cabin for a while, so one has to assume that was just yet another of the Man in Black's abilities... and yes, it still took two thousand years for that guy to finally manipulate a sucker into killing Jacob... poor social skills, presumably?). Of course, that wasn't Jacob but the Man in Black, still posing as Jack's father (Claire was there, too, and didn't seem to mind Aaron's absence... possibly drunk?). He told Locke to move the island, because Widmore killing everybody on the island would get in the way of his plans to kill everybody on the island.

Stuff happens, Ilana crashes on the island, sees two Lockes and realizes what's going on. She has to warn Jacob!
As she trained for this her entire life, she immediately comes up with the perfect plan: let's put the corpse of the real Locke in a box and carry it to the cabin, so that Jacob would know what his enemy looks like (because simply saying "like Locke" wouldn't be enough). "But the Man in Black can shapeshift, right?" Not once Jacob's dead, and Ilana knows that. So if you assume the worst case scenario (Jacob is already dead... oh, and the Man in Black looked like Locke when it happened... so let's say "really-quite-bad-yet-somewhat-convenient case scenario"), it makes perfect sense to carry that corpse to Jacob in order to warn him so he wouldn't get killed. I mean, killed even deader. She trained for this her entire life.
But even the best plans have flaws, and how could Ilana know that Jacob had moved back to the statue? Well, okay, Jacob could have told her. But it's not that bad: Ilana finds some tapestry depicting the statue and uses her years of training and playing Resident Evil to immediately deduce that that's where they have to go, now. Phew. Of course, one could consider the code they were using ("what lies in the shadow of the statue?" / "he who will save us all") a pretty big hint already, but nothing's quite as decisive as abandoned bits of tapestry.
And before leaving, they burn the cabin down because... I dunno, maybe they brought marshmallows.

And that's the story of the cabin. Makes sense to me!
 
Erigu desperately wants more Lost.

It's like a widow with a missing husband, and she just can't stop complaining that he is no longer around to explain that one time he said he dated other women.
 
Erigu said:
Well, it really isn't that complicated.

For a long time, Jacob lived under the statue because why not.
But then, Horace Goodspeed from the DHARMA Initiative decided to build a cabin. And it was so sweet that Jacob decided to move there, presumably after Horace's death (could it be the reason for the Purge? was Jacob interested in real estate? speculation time!).
The cabin was surrounded by a ring of magical ash (like regular ash, except magical... isn't that all you need to know about it?) as a measure of protection against the Man in Black (of course, it's not like Jacob could be killed by his brother, but hey, maybe he had a cat and didn't feel like turning it into a Man-in-Black-proof candidate).
Chances are Ben knew where the cabin was because he used to come there with Richard (only to be told to stay outside and play in the dirt while the grown-ups are talking, as that is the Leader's Sacred Duty... understandably, Widmore was pissed about having been robbed of that and would plot his revenge for years).
But then, one day, Jacob decided to move back to the statue and aren't we glad we bothered with that cabin in the first place?

At some point during the series, Ben showed the cabin to Locke and pretended Jacob was there and invisible. See, Ben was acting like he knew a great deal about the mysteries of the island and what was going on, but he was actually pretty damn clueless and Locke kept pestering him for answers, so he decided to just come up with some nonsense in order to shut him up for a while. Only dicks would do that, but then again, only extremely gullible people would fall for it, right?
Anyway, the circle of ash had been broken (which makes no sense to me, really: a circle of ash sounds like a perfect barrier and I can't for the life of me imagine how such a thing could have happened, unless there was a windy day or the Man in Black realized he could just blow on it or use some basic tool), and the Man in Black was also there. He pulled some kind of poltergeist act with his seldom-used telekinesis and told Locke "help me". Because that's... beneficial? Well, we should just trust the guy: he's been trying to leave the island for thousands of years, so he probably had his reasons to do apparently random shit like that.
Of course, Ben went "what the f... I mean, yeeeeeah, that was just Jacob, ha ha ha!"

Then, the cabin started moving around.
Hurley stumbled upon it once, and the Man in Black was in it, both as Jack's father and as another figure that gave Hurley a good scare (yes, the Man in Black can also do that). There again, it was all part of the Plan.
Then, Locke had a dream that told him how to find the cabin (just get Horace's map and follow it! after all, how else do you find moving cabins?) in order to talk to Jacob (as said above, Jacob hadn't been using that cabin for a while, so one has to assume that was just yet another of the Man in Black's abilities... and yes, it still took two thousand years for that guy to finally manipulate a sucker into killing Jacob... poor social skills, presumably?). Of course, that wasn't Jacob but the Man in Black, still posing as Jack's father (Claire was there, too, and didn't seem to mind Aaron's absence... possibly drunk?). He told Locke to move the island, because Widmore killing everybody on the island would get in the way of his plans to kill everybody on the island.

Stuff happens, Ilana crashes on the island, sees two Lockes and realizes what's going on. She has to warn Jacob!
As she trained for this her entire life, she immediately comes up with the perfect plan: let's put the corpse of the real Locke in a box and carry it to the cabin, so that Jacob would know what his enemy looks like (because simply saying "like Locke" wouldn't be enough). "But the Man in Black can shapeshift, right?" Not once Jacob's dead, and Ilana knows that. So if you assume the worst case scenario (Jacob is already dead... oh, and the Man in Black looked like Locke when it happened... so let's say "really-quite-bad-yet-somewhat-convenient case scenario"), it makes perfect sense to carry that corpse to Jacob in order to warn him so he wouldn't get killed. I mean, killed even deader. She trained for this her entire life.
But even the best plans have flaws, and how could Ilana know that Jacob had moved back to the statue? Well, okay, Jacob could have told her. But it's not that bad: Ilana finds some tapestry depicting the statue and uses her years of training and playing Resident Evil to immediately deduce that that's where they have to go, now. Phew. Of course, one could consider the code they were using ("what lies in the shadow of the statue?" / "he who will save us all") a pretty big hint already, but nothing's quite as decisive as abandoned bits of tapestry.
And before leaving, they burn the cabin down because... I dunno, maybe they brought marshmallows.

And that's the story of the cabin. Makes sense to me!

And that my friends, is Lost in a nutshell! Fuckin amazing analysis by the way.
 
Hai again guys, it's me, Cnizzle06, can someone explain to me why the producers placed so much speculation on the weather, like when Charlie labeled it as, "end-of-the-world type weather" or how Locke was almost psychic in his anticipation of storms?
 
cnizzle06 said:
Hai again guys, it's me, Cnizzle06, can someone explain to me why the producers placed so much speculation on the weather, like when Charlie labeled it as, "end-of-the-world type weather" or how Locke was almost psychic in his anticipation of storms?
Charlie saying "end-of-the-world type weather" is probably him describing something in a colorful way. I'm guessing he's describing the weather? In a colorful way?
As for Locke: that wasn't important at all. He called the weather a couple times. People can actually do that just by knowing more about weather.

Of all the criticisms of Lost this has to be one of the most retarded ones ever.
 
big ander said:
Charlie saying "end-of-the-world type weather" is probably him describing something in a colorful way. I'm guessing he's describing the weather? In a colorful way?
As for Locke: that wasn't important at all. He called the weather a couple times. People can actually do that just by knowing more about weather.

Of all the criticisms of Lost this has to be one of the most retarded ones ever.

Oh okay, thanks! I though it was curious how the writers placed so much emphasis on these occurrences what with other characters questioning Locke's ability to do so, but they just must be retarded too! At least that explains their inability to communicate with each other regarding things that happen on the island!

Next question, when Desmond went back in time after the hatch exploded and met Eloise Hawking, how did she know that the individual with the red shoes was going to die?! God, my retarded brain can't comprehend these complex narratives! Halp?
 
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