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[Solo]

Knocked out on a sinking sub? Seems clear cut to me.

 

[InaudibleWhispa]

Knocked out on a sinking sub? Seems clear cut to me.

Typically if someone dies on the show, we watch them die. This was more of an extreme example of Desmond in the well. You might have been certain that Lapidus perished, but it is certainly up for debate for most people. Only 38% of DarkUFO users believed he drowned as a result of the door hitting him.

 

[Solo]

Lapidus is a minor character. I never expected the Life and Death treatment for him. Shit, Sayid didnt get it - for either of his deaths. So theres no reason to expect it for Frank.

 

[InaudibleWhispa]

He doesn't have to have a dramatic death like Sun and Jin, but they would almost certainly have made it clear that he died and wasn't, as we last saw, just unconscious for an unknown length of time. I'd be debating this regardless of the spoiler; I don't think many people at all had accepted that his death was a certainty. The tagged clarification in and of itself shouldn't have implied anything.

 

[Arment]

I liked Lapidus but

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it's really stupid that he isn't dead. They got some 'splainin to do.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

I liked Lapidus but

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it's really stupid that he isn't dead. They got some 'splainin to do.

Agreed.

 

[oatmeal]

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Not like we saw them crying on the beach for too long. He will probably just wash up seconds later down the beach a bit.

 

[Yaweee]

1) I still don't fucking get how anyone could think that Lapidus is dead. He's been around for three seasons, and is conveniently the only pilot currently on the island that has a parked jetliner, and they didn't show his death, nor even mention his name in the immediately following scene when the other characters are mourning the people who drowned in the sub. I'm not talking from any sort of spoiler perspective, I just would be shocked by normal TV-death standards. If a liked but somewhat minor character is implied to die, you freaking show it, and/or have the characters react, and not some half second clip of him falling backwards into an inch of water after getting hit by a door.

EDIT:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/146855/lost-recap-the-candidate#s-p1-sr-i1
The Official ABC recap doesn't even acknowledge that Frank was in the episode at all :lol :lol :lol
Every single scene that they could have potentially showed him in has been edited so he just doesn't appear, not even for a single frame.

2) Clearly the Kate thing will be addressed. They made a pretty big point of saying she was crossed off on the Cave list, but that her name was written and not crossed off on the Lighthouse list.

 

[Catalix]

1) I still don't fucking get how anyone could think that...

Well I did still have doubts either way... until your post :lol

 

[Joe]

is there a Kate as WiB theory?

 

[Solo]

1) I still don't fucking get how anyone could think that Lapidus is dead. He's been around for three seasons, and is conveniently the only pilot currently on the island that has a parked jetliner, and they didn't show his death, nor even mention his name in the immediately following scene when the other characters are mourning the people who drowned in the sub. I'm not talking from any sort of spoiler perspective, I just would be shocked by normal TV-death standards. If a liked but somewhat minor character is implied to die, you freaking show it, and/or have the characters react, and not some half second clip of him falling backwards into an inch of water after getting hit by a door.

Nobody reacted to Sayid's death, mang.

 

[Yaweee]

Nobody reacted to Sayid's death, mang.

There is no Sayid!

 

[Jocchan]

There is no Sayid!

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

I still don't fucking get how anyone could think that Lapidus is dead. He's been around for three seasons, and is conveniently the only pilot currently on the island that has a parked jetliner

Best in Texas!

Nobody reacted to Sayid's death, mang.

Don't worry. Sayid will be back for Locke's Balls!

 

[Dead]

On the ABC site, Sayid, Sun and Jin all have had their bios updated to say they died during The Candidate.

However Frank's bio simply says "he was last seen" in the submarine

 

[Blader]

There is no Sayid!

Second best line of the ep.

 

[ZeoVGM]

So we have confirmation that a cast member will NOT return by the end of the series:

Spoiler

_____Mr. Eko

.

 

[Blader]

So we have confirmation that a cast member will NOT return by the end of the series:

Spoiler

_____Mr. Eko

.

That's been known for a long time.

Although to explain why would be an even bigger spoiler. :lol

 

[Catalix]

Second best line of the ep.

:lol yup. and "John Locke told me!" takes first?

Jack was on a roll that ep

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

That's been known for a long time.

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Although to explain why would be an even bigger spoiler.

:lol

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Wait, so you know of the show's literal reason why that person is not returning? Like, the in show reason, not the IRL reason?

 

[Jocchan]

.

 

[ZeoVGM]

That's been known for a long time.

Huh? Not really, there's been hope that he would return for quite a while.

Although to explain why would be an even bigger spoiler. :lol

What?

 

[Blader]

Huh? Not really, there's been hope that he would return for quite a while.

It was said a month or two ago that

Spoiler

he

wouldn't be returning.

Kristin from E, or someone like her, answered a question a long while back about two actors,

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and said one would definitely return and one definitely wouldn't. She then said the one who definitely wouldn't return is Eko, citing all the behind-the-scenes drama as the reason why.

 

[InaudibleWhispa]

Hmm, Jeff Fahey seems to confirm the exact opposite to the earlier "Is Frank dead or alive?" spoiler in this interview. He could just be messing around, or DarkUFO's source could be wrong. I guess we just don't know now.

And with regards to MIB's name, E! Online earlier imply that tonight

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we won't hear it

.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Why wouldn't we

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hear his name

tonight? That makes no sense.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Hmm, Jeff Fahey seems to confirm the exact opposite to the earlier "Is Frank dead or alive?" spoiler in this interview. He could just be messing around, or DarkUFO's source could be wrong. I guess we just don't know now.
.

What the hell? He some how managed to contradict all evidence to the contrary. Now we truly don't know who the fuck is telling the truth, but I err on the side of

Spoiler

alive, because Damon and Carlton seem dodgy about answering that question.

 

[Dead]

On one hand, it kinda reads like Fahey is having a laugh

on the other, I don't know what to believe anymore.

Why would the ABC site update Jin, Sun and Sayid to "dead" but only say about Frank that "he was last seen" in the sub...?

 

[bachikarn]

Although to explain why would be an even bigger spoiler. :lol

yeah, what did you mean by this?

 

[Blader]

yeah, what did you mean by this?

See my last post.

 

[InaudibleWhispa]

Episode 6.6 – “What They Died For”

While Locke devises a new strategy, Jack's group searches for Desmond.

Written by Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz & Elizabeth Sarnoff
Directed by Paul Edwards

Cast
Naveen Andrews as Sayid
Nestor Carbonell as Richard Alpert
Emilie de Ravin as Claire
Michael Emerson as Ben
Jeff Fahey as Frank Lapidus
Matthew Fox as Jack
Jorge Garcia as Hurley
Josh Holloway as Sawyer
Daniel Dae Kim as Jin
Yunjin Kim as Sun
Ken Leung as Miles
Evangeline Lilly as Kate
Terry O’Quinn as Locke
Zuleikha Robinson as Ilana

Guest Cast

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Michelle Rodriguez as Ana Lucia
Mira Furlan as Danielle Rousseau
Alan Dale as Charles Widmore
Tania Raymonde as Alex
Mark Pellegrino as Jacob
Dylan Minnette as David
Sheila Kelley as Zoe
Kenton Duty as teenage boy
Wendy Pearson as Nurse Kondracki
Ashlee Kyker as student
Ernesto Lopez as LAPD cop

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Kenton Duty's continued role is quite interesting. I wonder if we'll learn tonight what young Jacob's role in the present is.

 

[VistraNorrez]

Maybe this is a silly question, but has MIB's name been spoiled yet? You'd think it be something almost too east to find.

 

[InaudibleWhispa]

Maybe this is a silly question, but has MIB's name been spoiled yet? You'd think it be something almost too east to find.

Not as far as I know, unless it's part of the leaked casting list or script pages which I don't know the contents of.

 

[Costanza]

Nice guest list for WTDF.

 

[Lafiel]

Maybe this is a silly question, but has MIB's name been spoiled yet? You'd think it be something almost too east to find.

Hmph, i think MIB name will unfortunately. (for some of you guys) most likely won't be revealed by the end of the series. I feel like it's trivial tbh. And it's something best kept open.

 

[Dead]

Yay

Spoiler

Ana Lucia

 

[Solo]

Guest Cast

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Michelle Rodriguez as Ana Lucia
Mira Furlan as Danielle Rousseau
Tania Raymonde as Alex

OMG

Did not know any of them would be back. So awesome.

 

[Lafiel]

Yay

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Ana Lucia

Yay

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Zoe

 

[Domino Theory]

My guess: Jack's ex-wife is

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Ana Lucia

. I mean, seriously, David is just

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the younger, male version of her (in terms of looks)

 

[Arment]

My guess: Jack's ex-wife is

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Ana Lucia

. I mean, seriously, David is just

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the younger, male version of her (in terms of looks)

David lacks a certain

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latino flavor

for that to be true. We'll see.

 

[Dead]

My guess: Jack's ex-wife is

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Ana Lucia

. I mean, seriously, David is just

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the younger, male version of her (in terms of looks)

That was one of my guesses as well.

 

[Solo]

David is just

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the younger, male version of her (in terms of looks)

No :lol :lol :lol

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

My guess: Jack's ex-wife is

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Ana Lucia

. I mean, seriously, David is just

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the younger, male version of her (in terms of looks)

They have the exact same line delivery as well.

 

[Catalix]

No :lol :lol :lol

It's in the eyes, dude. How can you not see it?

 

[Solo]

It's in the eyes, dude. How can you not see it?

Its in how hes white as a ghost, like Jack. Not a hint of flavour in him at all.

 

[Arment]

Its in how hes white as a ghost, like Jack. Not a hint of flavour in him at all.

Yep. Pasty.

 

[Catalix]

Combine that with lipstick lips. Odd-looking young lad.

 

[Dead]

What they died for sneak peek 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcElsT1oL14

 

[Lafiel]

My guess: Jack's ex-wife is

Spoiler

Ana Lucia

. I mean, seriously, David is just

Spoiler

the younger, male version of her (in terms of looks)

This is going end up like that guy in the promo of S5.15 being sawyer.

 

[ZeoVGM]

What they died for sneak peek 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcElsT1oL14

Hm..

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Hm..

Has officially become a fanfiction now...