LTTP: Dark Souls (PS3)

I have a Balders side sword +5 that still doesnt do as much damage as the drake. Close but not as much. Of course the Balders has a far better move set and lighter weight.

Some people dont get good drops. In my case the best weapons I had at that point were a longsword, a shortsword, and a short bow. It's a very handy weapon for people that got unlucky with their drops. Especially the stingy black knight that didnt give me anything. Nor did the second one.

Now a question. Should I go through The Depths first or Darkroot Garden?

If you go to the Depths you can get a special ember rather quickly that will allow you to upgrade your Balder Side Sword to +10 (provided you have the materials for it). Give the ember to Andre the blacksmith.
 
I have a Balders side sword +5 that still doesnt do as much damage as the drake. Close but not as much. Of course the Balders has a far better move set and lighter weight.

Some people dont get good drops. In my case the best weapons I had at that point were a longsword, a shortsword, and a short bow. It's a very handy weapon for people that got unlucky with their drops. Especially the stingy black knight that didnt give me anything. Nor did the second one.

Now a question. Should I go through The Depths first or Darkroot Garden?

Get it to +10, then +15 and pump dex. Combined with weapon enchantments/resins its amazing.
 
If you go to the Depths you can get a special ember rather quickly that will allow you to upgrade your Balder Side Sword to +10 (provided you have the materials for it). Give the ember to Andre the blacksmith.

Yeah I want that far through it, then fell through a hole in the same spot and got a shield. Wandered around back there long enough to kill a Channeler before I decided I'd better use a homeward bone and quit for the night.
 
I hate this game...

But only because I sunk 80 hours into the PS3 version when it was first released, and now, I'm replaying it on the 360, even though I have a stack of new games to play.

That all said, it is still so very addicting the second time around.
 
Besides, Drake Sword isn't even the most overpowered weapon at that specific point. Kill off the 2H sword Black Knight in the tower and hope for his rare drop - THAT weapon is overpowered and actually useful to the end.

Is that the Black Knight (Claymore) Sword?

I got that and boosted my strength up enough to one-hand it, however it has broad swings, isn't fast, and opens me up to attacks.
Is it recommended that I work towards juicing it up? (I'm a Knight class, btw)
 
What is this Drake Sword? Don't answer if its a spoiler, and don't tell me where it is :)

Does it inflict Bleeding or something?
Look up how to get it, its absolutely essential and will save you upgrade stones which in turn will save you souls. Its easy to get fairly early in the game but you could miss it, nonetheless the game was made to be played using it so why they tucked it away is puzzling.

Whatever you do though, dont upgrade it as itll become useless when you get to Sen's Fortress at which point youll soon enough get the Lightning Spear. The weapon you want after that is Queelags Sword which is so good that itll carry you through NG+, you can even upgrade it and IIRC it scales to your Strength stat. Again read up on getting it when you get around 2/3s of the way to the end.

The important thing about Dark Souls is that equipment and to lesser extent stats arent a huge factor, those three weapons i listed will be more than enough to get you through. IIRC, i was using my starting armour until about 2/3s of the way and even then it was still useful. Also whatever you do, DO NOT ever use an item without consulting what its for online.
 
Is that the Black Knight (Claymore) Sword?

I got that and boosted my strength up enough to one-hand it, however it has broad swings, isn't fast, and opens me up to attacks.
Is it recommended that I work towards juicing it up? (I'm a Knight class, btw)

There are few weapons that won't be useful throughout the game if you upgrade them, and they fit your character build. Just find a weapon with a moveset you like, and upgrade it.
Look up how to get it, its absolutely essential and will save you upgrade stones which in turn will save you souls. Its easy to get fairly early in the game but you could miss it, nonetheless the game was made to be played using it so why they tucked it away is puzzling..

I really don't think the game was made to be played with the Drake sword early on. Almost everything dies in one or two hits, and completely adjusts the difficulty of the game until you get to Blighttown. It's much more beneficial in the long run to get through the first 10 hours without using the Drake sword because its effectiveness falls off extremely quickly around Sen's Fortress, and if you've gotten used to destroying everything in a few hits, you are going to be in for a rude awakening.
 
Not a chance in hell that you will find it on your own. I'm not even sure how people figured out to get it in the first place, since it is very hidden away.
I happened upon it on my first play simply because
the dragon's trail was the easiest thing to hit with my arrows when I was trying to figure out how to kill it.

I never used it though.
 
I happened upon it on my first play simply because
the dragon's trail was the easiest thing to hit with my arrows when I was trying to figure out how to kill it.

I never used it though.

That makes sense. Someone was probably just trying to find an easy way to kill it, then BAM, Drake Sword.
 
What the hell is the point of crystal weapons
They are stronger than +15 weapons before they are even upgraded fully. They can still be enchanted. If you PVP and you've got tons of materials and souls, they're viable. also, if you're in anor londo and you don't have a good weapon yet, the crystal halberd you can get there is a pretty good choice against O&S.
You can't repair crystal weapons but the durability is reset each time you upgrade it.


Also drake sword is far from "essential". I don't recommend it at all.
 
This makes me feel better, because I really like the halberd.


Halberds are easily my favorite weapon type in Dark Souls. I like being able to poke the shit out of everyone. And then poke them some more.

Get yourself a nice Lightning Halberd +5, and watch the sparks fly. I also adore the Black Knight Halberd and Black Knight Great Axe.
 
So since I've already gotten the large ember and the shield close to it should I double back and go through Darkroot Garden instead of The Depths? Seems to be a lot of poisonous stuff down in The Depths and I'm not sure if I should be down there yet. Currently at Firelink Shrine so going to either place is pretty easy.
 
So since I've already gotten the large ember and the shield close to it should I double back and go through Darkroot Garden instead of The Depths? Seems to be a lot of poisonous stuff down in The Depths and I'm not sure if I should be down there yet. Currently at Firelink Shrine so going to either place is pretty easy.

Yeah hit up Darkroot Garden first and stock up on purple moss before heading to the Depths.

As far as the drake sword goes I think if you don't care about absolutely maximizing your damage (which really isn't necessary unless you want to PvP) then you're better off avoiding it altogether for an overall better game experience and feeling of progression. You'll waste a few more souls and lower level titanite shards without it as you upgrade other weapons but like I said before, PvP has pretty much become a case of who can land a single killing blow the fastest so unless you're interested in researching that perfect weapon to upgrade just right with the correct amount of stats to out-damage the other guy on the draw then don't sweat it and experiment with the other weapons.
 
So since I've already gotten the large ember and the shield close to it should I double back and go through Darkroot Garden instead of The Depths? Seems to be a lot of poisonous stuff down in The Depths and I'm not sure if I should be down there yet. Currently at Firelink Shrine so going to either place is pretty easy.


I would advise the Depths first. Although there is no right way. Make sure that you stock up on anti curse and anti poison items, you can get some of them from the NPC in the same building as the first Bell that you rung,

Have you fought the punk ass Frank Capra demon yet?


I'm second guessing myself now. Maybe Darkroot Garden would be a tad easier?

If you want an easy way to power level, and have 20000 souls to buy the Crest of Artorias from the Undead Parish Blacksmith, watch this video for how to do it.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=s-ObDIG4aTc&desktop_uri=/watch?v=s-ObDIG4aTc
 
So since I've already gotten the large ember and the shield close to it should I double back and go through Darkroot Garden instead of The Depths? Seems to be a lot of poisonous stuff down in The Depths and I'm not sure if I should be down there yet. Currently at Firelink Shrine so going to either place is pretty easy.

Boss in darkroot is harder. If your BSS is still at +5 you might have a hard time with it. Boss in the depths has a ton of HP but is easy otherwise. Depths are also totally optional. No wrong way to go though

I would advise the Depths first. Although there is no right way. Make sure that you stock up on anti curse and anti poison items, you can get some of them from the NPC in the same building as the first Bell that you rung,

Have you fought the punk ass Frank Capra demon yet?


He must have, you can't get into the depths without killing Capra

Yeah hit up Darkroot Garden first and stock up on purple moss before heading to the Depths.

As far as the drake sword goes I think if you don't care about absolutely maximizing your damage (which really isn't necessary unless you want to PvP) then you're better off avoiding it altogether for an overall better game experience and feeling of progression. You'll waste a few more souls and lower level titanite shards without it as you upgrade other weapons but like I said before, PvP has pretty much become a case of who can land a single killing blow the fastest so unless you're interested in researching that perfect weapon to upgrade just right with the correct amount of stats to out-damage the other guy on the draw then don't sweat it and experiment with the other weapons.

But, at the same time, drake sword is an absolutely horrible choice for PVP. You'll get destroyed. I know you didn't recommend it for pvp or anything.. just saying again that the drake sword is poop. No reason to use it. If you wanted to get the highest possible damage early in the game, drake sword isn't the way to go either.
 
I don't really like the sound of the way Sorcery works now. Think I'll save the souls

Decided to explore the lower level of Undead Berg and found a fog gate. Carried on exploring and unlocked the shortcut between Firelink Shrine and the lower level, so called it a day at the bonfire at the Shrine which is Kindled, so I have 10 Estus flasks. Will see what's behind the fog gate tomorrow.

Is there always a boss behind the fog gates?
 
This makes me feel better, because I really like the halberd.

I really liked using the halberds too. The great scythe and lifehunt scythe are unbelievably good. I'm not sure if it's great in PvP but the lifehunt has to be one of the best PvE weapons in the game, you'll need the bloodbite ring from the guy in the belltower though. The running attack on both of those is great as well.
I don't really like the sound of the way Sorcery works now. Think I'll save the souls

It gets extremely good later on. Early in the game it feels very restrictive because you don't have very many attunement slots, but that becomes less of an issue later on. There are also some rings and armor you can use that can increase stuff like the amount of times you can cast each spell and spell power.
 
Sullichin said:
Also drake sword is far from "essential". I don't recommend it at all.
I didn't find it "essential" at all personally. It's nice for a little while but became pretty useless for me once I upgraded the Zweihander. I stuck with that as my primary weapon throughout most of the game since I liked the attacks and boosted my strength enough to one hand it. Once I got the Zweihander to +15 and added Lightning it was beastly. It's served me well throughout my NG+ also.

If I needed something with quicker attacks, I also became fond of the Great Sword of Artorias and Queelags Fire Sword.
 
Boss in darkroot is harder. If your BSS is still at +5 you might have a hard time with it. Boss in the depths has a ton of HP but is easy otherwise. Depths are also totally optional. No wrong way to go though




He must have, you can't get into the depths without killing Capra

Yeah, but he's at the Firelink Shrine. I'm unsure of whether he's cleared the way to the Depths, or he just knows of their existence and the general area to go to get there.

There is a nice ember in the Depths, right next to the Butcher, so I would definitely tackle this area sometime in the near future.
 
Played through Dark Souls: Prepare to Die using Durante's patch at 1080p, 60fps.

Best JRPG I've played in years and years. It was incredible in every way. Easy GOTY 2011.

After playing through Dark Souls on PC I tried to go back to Demon's Souls on PS3, but I couldn't.

I've yet to play my PS3 copy, but do you guys think the PC version (with patches) is the version to go with?
 
No I've already been in the depths and got the ember and a shield from the area. Capra Demon is easy once you eliminate the dogs.

Sounds like the moss from Deeproot makes that area a more natural choice to go to first before I go through the Depths.
 
No I've already been in the depths and got the ember and a shield from the area. Capra Demon is easy once you eliminate the dogs.

Sounds like the moss from Deeproot makes that area a more natural choice to go to first before I go through the Depths.

I was dreading that fight as a sorcerer. However, I just cast Hidden Body, then went through the fog and the dogs did not attack me or notice me at all.
 
But, at the same time, drake sword is an absolutely horrible choice for PVP. You'll get destroyed. I know you didn't recommend it for pvp or anything.. just saying again that the drake sword is poop. No reason to use it. If you wanted to get the highest possible damage early in the game, drake sword isn't the way to go either.

Oh I agree with you completely. But if you chose to use the drake sword for the first third of the game or so you can save a ton in upgrade shards that can be put towards a good PvP weapon. You won't be winning any PvP duels until then but chances are even with a good weapon you won't be winning much either without a specific build.
 
There's a mini-boss sorceror in the church just before the gargoyle who I killed, but I died straight after I landed the killing blow. Did he drop anything good that I can't get now?
 
No I've already been in the depths and got the ember and a shield from the area. Capra Demon is easy once you eliminate the dogs.

Sounds like the moss from Deeproot makes that area a more natural choice to go to first before I go through the Depths.

Once you avoid them, that is. Bastards always blocked me from heading up the stairs, and cost me a couple of deaths (with like 4 humanity to go along with it).

Fuck that boss fight.
 
There's a mini-boss sorceror in the church just before the gargoyle who I killed, but I died straight after I landed the killing blow. Did he drop anything good that I can't get now?


That's a channeler and he will sometimes drop a Trident. From what I've read that is pretty rare though. That said, I just killed the second one I've come across in the game and he dropped it even though I had no humanity.
 
That's a channeler and he will sometimes drop a Trident. From what I've read that is pretty rare though. That said, I just killed the second one I've come across in the game and he dropped it even though I had no humanity.

The drops are really goofy in this game. Some of the craziest shit I've found dropped when I had no humanity and yet if I go farming for an item with 10 humanity and the serpent ring I can go forever turning up jack shit.
 
While in Demon’s I went with a mage style kind of character, I mainly used a sword style melee type of character in Dark. I’m probably going to start a new game with the sorcerer starting class soon.

Go Pyromancer if you care about min/maxing. I went Pyro as my first character thinking that I was getting a "Fire Mage" type character, but what I got instead was the new Royal (nearly a blank slate) that also had the ability to learn a bunch of fire spells...on top of being able to be any other style at the same time. The fire spells are incredibly strong, and don't require an investment in INT or FA at all. Their only downside is that they are more range limited and obviously won't work on enemies resistant/immune to fire. Every character can eventually learn Pyro spells if you want, but nowhere near as fast as the actual Pyro class, plus they just offer way more customization through stats.

Edit: Hah, just looked at the start date of this thread. I'm sure he's beaten the game again at least once more, if not twice.
 
The thing about the Drake Sword is that you probably won't be able to upgrade it fully in a single game, so pretty much whatever you do, other weapons will overcome it very quickly using quite cheap materials (800 souls for a shard is NOTHING). Also, it borks the difficulty scale as stated as you'll kill simple enemies without learning the flow of battle. Also, it's a noob flag. I specifically do NOT summon people with it, especially if I see them in Anor Londo. In fact, I try to drop good weapons at people who run around with it (BSS, Uchigatana, Washing Pole) and they tend to not even notice.

Ah... probably time to make that chart...
 
Do you get enough Humanity to Kindle and Reverse Hollow without too much care, or should I only do that at bonfires that I know I'll use a lot?

I can only speak from my own exp, probably not too much ahead of you, but save it for the bonfires you know you will use a lot.

So at this stage in the game (just beat Capra Demon and the can also now enter Deeproot Garden) are there any weapons similar to the Balders Side Sword coming up soon? I want to be able to 1 hand mostly so I can keep my shield up and I'm starting to really push dex in the skill build. If there is anything really nice coming up soon I think I will save this ember instead of upgrading the Balders any further.
 
Do you get enough Humanity to Kindle and Reverse Hollow without too much care, or should I only do that at bonfires that I know I'll use a lot?

If you do coop and help people, sure. The bonfire at the smith is a major waypoint so max that out if you can. Others, sure, if you have some humanity to spare that you might lose anyway.

The only time you really need lots of humanity is when farming for rare drops or
when doing the chaos
covenant.
 
I can only speak from my own exp, probably not too much ahead of you, but save it for the bonfires you know you will use a lot.

So at this stage in the game (just beat Capra Demon and the can also now enter Deeproot Garden) are there any weapons similar to the Balders Side Sword coming up soon? I want to be able to 1 hand mostly so I can keep my shield up and I'm starting to really push dex in the skill build. If there is anything really nice coming up soon I think I will save this ember instead of upgrading the Balders any further.

You don't waste the ember, once you give it to him you can upgrade all weapons past +5. That said, BSS is a very solid sword and very good for dex builds.

Similar weapons are Uchigatana (you can go back and kill undead merchant now), Long Sword (buyable) and Iaito (treasure in Blighttown, after Depths).

Also, now that you can go to Deeproot you should look around the upper parts for a really neat armor set and find the secret path to a good ring (which is essential for 2H or strength builds).
 
Go Pyromancer if you care about min/maxing. I went Pyro as my first character thinking that I was getting a "Fire Mage" type character, but what I got instead was the new Royal (nearly a blank slate) that also had the ability to learn a bunch of fire spells...on top of being able to be any other style at the same time. The fire spells are incredibly strong, and don't require an investment in INT or FA at all. Their only downside is that they are more range limited and obviously won't work on enemies resistant/immune to fire. Every character can eventually learn Pyro spells if you want, but nowhere near as fast as the actual Pyro class, plus they just offer way more customization through stats.

Edit: Hah, just looked at the start date of this thread. I'm sure he's beaten the game again at least once more, if not twice.

Haha yeah, I've already done several different playthroughs. I wouldn't mind trying Pyro out sometime though; seems like a lot of fun.
 
I just got back into the game and i ran the drake sword until i got the BSS. Im running a dex build so it is perfect for me. Also im at the Gaping Dragon any advice? Im SL 41 running Longbow +5 and BSS +6.....
 
Do you get enough Humanity to Kindle and Reverse Hollow without too much care, or should I only do that at bonfires that I know I'll use a lot?

You can farm it with relative ease at a certain, somewhat reachable point in the game. So far I'm not having any issues.

Then again, I'm just now a few steps into (the fucking awesome) Sen's Fortress, so....
 
I just got back into the game and i ran the drake sword until i got the BSS. Im running a dex build so it is perfect for me. Also im at the Gaping Dragon any advice? Im SL 41 running Longbow +5 and BSS +6.....

Go human and summon Solaire outside, he keeps it busy for you to shoot it. Just hack away at the back of it and try to cut the tail. Make sure to kill the sorcerer at the upper levels before entering too.

Another tip before you enter Blighttown in general: get your main weapon to +6 at Andre and buy a Weapon Smithbox. That way you can keep improving it as you go, and you'll probably find materials in Depths and Blighttown.
 
I just got back into the game and i ran the drake sword until i got the BSS. Im running a dex build so it is perfect for me. Also im at the Gaping Dragon any advice? Im SL 41 running Longbow +5 and BSS +6.....

Lighten your load (or use Havel's ring) so that you're as quick on your feet as possible and equip the glass crest shield to buff your stamina regen. Basically your first priority is to whack its tail off since without it it can't do one of its most dangerous attacks. Once you've done that it's just a matter of hitting it from the relative safety of its ass region until it dies.
 
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