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LTTP: Harry Potter (the film series)

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J_Viper

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After seeing the box set go on sale for $34 bones, I couldn't miss the chance to finally catch up.

I was in third grade when Sorcerer's Stone came out, and I loved it, as well as its sequel. However, for whatever silly reason, I later deemed myself too old for Harry Potter and left the series behind after Chamber of Secrets.

That was way long ago though, so I'm pretty much going into these fresh.

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I actually enjoyed this one much than I expected to. It seems like a solid intro to the series that introduces the characters and concepts very well.

I can rarely stand child actors, but all of them are solid here. One can say that Radcliffe is a bit stiff, but I could deem that fitting to the character, seeing as how he practically grew up inside a closet. Props to young Draco as well, he played that punk kid way too well.

The supporting characters are excellent too. Hagrid, Dumbledore, Snape, the cast is here is terrific.

The major downside here is the laughable CG. Many of its action scenes have zero impact because they look right out of a PS One cut-scene. It's understandable, given their age, but good god man

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Even despite that, I had a good time with it, even it was a bit lengthy.

Chamber of Secrets was next

Because introductions are out of the way, the plot can take center stage. Because of this, the film moves faster than its predecessor, despite running ten minutes longer.

The slightly darker tone is also interesting, given how lighthearted the first film was.

The effects are also a huge improvement. The giant spider sequence was particularly effective.

However, my big problem here was the reliance of slapstick humor that seemed to plague the first twenty or so minutes.

Once the first message in blood is discovered, the film finds its footing and doesn't really stumble afterwards.

Oh, and Ron was annoying as hell in this one. I enjoyed the kid's performance in Sorcerer's Stone, but it seems here he was asked to make this face

throughout the entire movie and it quickly becomes insufferable.

All in all, I had a fun time with these too, and I'm very interested to know where things go from here. A buddy of mine told me that shit gets loco later on in the series.

I'll be watching Prisoner of Azkaban tomorrow

This one seems to be declared as the best in the series. I can't wait to see what both Gary Oldman and Alfonso Cuaron.

I'm sure Oldman will be an excellent addition to the already strong supporting cast of actors, but it's Cuaron's presence that has me most intrigued.

Any big fans of the series here?
 
don't underestimate David Thewlis too. He's a great inclusion to the series as well in the third film, the best potter movie really.
 

Platy

Member
It is an awesome film series but I am really sad how they treated Neville ... the whole
"he can be the chosen one too and might as well be"
angle was practically ignored on the movies
 
The major downside here is the laughable CG. Many of its action scenes have zero impact because they look right out of a PS One cut-scene. It's understandable, given their age, but good god man

Oh no no, that's not Harry Potter in a PS One cut-scene.


THAT'S Harry Potter in a PS One cutscene. Seriously, those games have nightmarish paper-mache character models.

I get what you mean though.
 

Faddy

Banned
The 3rd one is the best one.

After that Daniel Radcliffe's bad acting stops being cute and starts to get distracting.
 

sphagnum

Banned
The first two have a comfy feel to them since the characters are still young and relatively carefree, learning about magic along with the audience, etc. Plus the very warm lighting and John Williams' score.
 
They are all great movies, but the tone of the movies completely change after the 4th movie. They go from being fun kids movies to being much more serious but still very enjoyable.
 

SpartanN92

Banned
Everyone of them is good except for Half Blood Prince IMO

So much cut and just weird and bad all the way around.
 
The first 3 were good. 4 was meh and the rest are total trash. Love the franchise but man the sheer cut content from the books in the later movies just killed it for me.
 
They are all great movies, but the tone of the movies completely change after the 4th movie. They go from being fun kids movies to being much more serious but still very enjoyable.

The series matured (in a sense) with it's fanbase so it made sense that the series would get darker as it went on. I would hardly consider it a negative to the series.
 
The series matured (in a sense) with it's fanbase so it made sense that the series would get darker as it went on. I would hardly consider it a negative to the series.

It makes sense in theory, but the last few books made little sense in the full context, so the cut down movie versions trying to be more serious are a mess.

The first four are pretty fun for what they are though. My daughter loves them, even if Professor Squirrel is a bit scary at the end.

Even at the time that troll looked dumb as fuck.

Not if it stood next to the whomping willow, or whatever that was supposed to be.
 

watershed

Banned
The CG in HP1 was rough even at time of release. Chris Columbus said they just ran out of time in post-production on the first movie. The second movie was better overall but the CG didn't really match contemporary efforts until HP3 imo.

Ron kind of goes nowhere as a character after the 1st movie. IIRC he kind of becomes comic relief and not much else.
 

Vashetti

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Ron kind of goes nowhere as a character after the 1st movie. IIRC he kind of becomes comic relief and not much else.

Blame the screenwriter (bar for the fifth movie) Steve Kloves, who is the ultimate 'Harmony' shipper.

As the movies go on, Ron fades into the background as comic relief, which certainly did not happen in the books

Escaping with the dragon in Gringotts in DH is Ron's idea in the books, not Hermione's
 
The series matured (in a sense) with it's fanbase so it made sense that the series would get darker as it went on. I would hardly consider it a negative to the series.

Rowling stumbled a lot in the transition where 4th book led to very dark tone with Harry's torture and the movies themselves suffered from that.
 

jrush64

Banned
Dude they are all amazing, except Order of the Phoenix. I hated the movie so much but loved the book.

The last two movies are so damn great.
 

Mr_Moogle

Member
I preferred the earlier Harry Potter films. They have a lot more charm. I still thought the child acting was god awful though, especially in the first two films.
 
Blame the screenwriter (bar for the fifth movie) Steve Kloves, who is the ultimate 'Harmony' shipper.

As the movies go on, Ron fades into the background as comic relief, which certainly did not happen in the books

Escaping with the dragon in Gringotts in DH is Ron's idea in the books, not Hermione's

To be honest the movies being pretty much "Harry x Hermione until oops we need to make it like the books at the last second" was something that I liked.

For all the crazy inconsistencies in the books, from absurd time travel to plot holes about death to constant dumb decisions by Dumbledore it was Ron that always bothered me most. Hermione choosing a guy with red hair just makes absolutely no sense.

So the contrast was nice. That way everyone is happy in a small way.
 

TheXbox

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Prisoner of Azkaban is a masterclass. Cuarón, Williams, and Oldman combine like Voltron and it's fucking brilliant. I love, love, love the movie, and I don't have nearly as much affinity for the rest of the series.
It's better than the book.
 
don't underestimate David Thewlis too. He's a great inclusion to the series as well in the third film, the best potter movie really.
Yup. Oldman and Thewlis absolutely killed it in PoA. Has my favourite Dumbledore performance too.
Blame the screenwriter (bar for the fifth movie) Steve Kloves, who is the ultimate 'Harmony' shipper.

As the movies go on, Ron fades into the background as comic relief, which certainly did not happen in the books

Escaping with the dragon in Gringotts in DH is Ron's idea in the books, not Hermione's
Hermione getting Ron's good moments still annoys me a lot. Started back in the first film with the Devil's Snare.
 

oti

Banned
Oh no no, that's not Harry Potter in a PS One cut-scene.



THAT'S Harry Potter in a PS One cutscene. Seriously, those games have nightmarish paper-mache character models.

I get what you mean though.

Bruh, this was the shit back then.
Damn you fire snails!
 

GCX

Member
I got suuuper bummed when I learned that Cuaron was asked to direct Fantastic Beasts and he declined.


WHY CUARON WHYYYYY
Yates did a fine job with Fantastic Beasts though.

Cuaron would've probably made an amazing movie but I'm sure he wouldn't have wanted to be chained to all the sequels. That would've caused the same kind of constant director switching than with the Potter series.
 

Horse Detective

Why the long case?
I personally think there is more merit in the charm of the latter movies, since you actually have to wait for it.

The originals even seem comical in moments of danger, so there really isn't any time for me to anticipate or want lighthearted moments.
 

cantona222

Member
I have a question for you OP. This is a fictional word so the writer is making up rules for this world. Did you see any rules that were contradicted after they were established? The reason I am asking is that I saw many contradictions in the Fantastic Beasts movie and I don't remember such thing happening in the HP books and the movies. I just want to compare.
 

Fat4all

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The third film does a lot to help set the tone and atmosphere for the rest of the series (though film four kinda drops the ball a bit).

Azkaban also has great cinematography.
 
What?

WHAT???
In the book, Dumbledore explains the prophecy to Harry in a way that it can be interpreted to be about either Harry or Neville (boy born at the end of July to a wizarding family who's denied Voldemort three times). However, Voldemort guessed it was Harry and marked him as an equal, leading Dumbledore to dismiss that it was Neville, although that's why Bellatrix Lestrange tortured Neville's parents.

Given the role Neville plays in leading Dumbledore's Army and killing Nagini though he pretty much fulfilled that destiny in the end anyway.

Hermione came up with the idea to use a fire/light spell against the Devils Snare.

Ron's big moment was playing wizard chess.
The way the devil's snare scene plays out is different in the movie. Hermione is in full control of the situation while Ron is a panicky mess, whereas in the book Hermione knows what to do but is too busy being a panicking mess ("There's no wood!") and Ron has to remind her that she's a witch and can literally make fire.

This probably has less to do with "hur hur Ron is dumb" and more with wanting to give Hermione a moment as they cut the potions riddle from the movie. The movies in general do make Ron out to be more of a moron where in the book he has some street smarts to balance Hermione's bookishness.
 

TipsyArchmage

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It is an awesome film series but I am really sad how they treated Neville ... the whole
"he can be the chosen one too and might as well be"
angle was practically ignored on the movies

I mean that's a cool side bit in the books but it makes sense that it was cut since it does lead nowhere

Voldemort defines the prophecy by his own actions by going after baby Harry. From that moment on Neville can't be the choosen one anyway
 

bosseye

Member
I enjoyed the books but I'm not a fan of any of the films really. Radcliffe isn't a very good actor I don't think, Watson over acts, especially in the early films and Grint, despite probably being the most natural actor of the three gets relegated to the role of comedy sidekick and thus never really shines.
 

TheYanger

Member
I enjoy the earlier movies better in a lot of ways - they're much more faithful to the books, but the later ones get shorter and shorter as the books grew longer, which results in the entire series being QUITE different from the books by the end, there's so much trimmed out. That said, I still really like the movies, I don't know that Azkaban is my favorite, it was the start of the path where they cut a ton from the novels, but it is pretty good. I actually like half blood prince, it's the order of the phoenix and ESPECIALLY the goblet of fire that suffer for being reduced down the most imo. Those two are dramatically cut down, being the worst in book:film time ratio by a landslide, the last book is long too but it was split into two movies so it still gets it all in for the most part.
 

Gnome

Member
Two is easily the worst movie in my opinion. Though I do respect the consistent costuming in 1 and 2. I hate how 3 onwards everyone is wearing pedestrian clothes.

All in all, I'd call the whole film series "serviceable". My dream is to get a high budget TV show of some kind within the HP universe, one given proper care and attention.
 
Great film series but I will never forgive them for turning the longest book (Order of the Phoenix) into the shortest Harry Potter movie. Complete bullshit.

Also, wtf was up with this:
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MC Safety

Member
Great film series but I will never forgive them for turning the longest book (Order of the Phoenix) into the shortest Harry Potter movie. Complete bullshit.

Also, wtf was up with this:
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Artistic license. Not a great choice, but not terrible.

There's a scene in Half Blood Prince that always struck me as insanely odd and definitely awful.

Harry almost murders Draco. Snape rescues Draco as he's bleeding out; he sees Harry and realizes Harry has his old book.

In the very next scene Harry and the Weasely sister get rid of the book. And Snape does exactly nothing, and the movie continues on as if nothing happened.
 
I have a question for you OP. This is a fictional word so the writer is making up rules for this world. Did you see any rules that were contradicted after they were established? The reason I am asking is that I saw many contradictions in the Fantastic Beasts movie and I don't remember such thing happening in the HP books and the movies. I just want to compare.

OP hasn't got through the third movie yet. It takes a turn for the worse in this regard...
 

chaosaeon

Member
First one was my favorite I think. Though it's still so odd that for some people it was Sorcerer's Stone instead of Philosopher.
Second was eh. "Tom 'rest of the letters I need' Riddle was such a bad moment it still annoys me to this day.
Prisoner, I dunno, just didn't think it was as good as some people do. I felt like the time travel stuff was not interesting in the least and those moments of "ohh turns out it was them from the future that threw that rock" I didn't think was clever at all.
I think I liked Goblet of Fire because of the whole tournament layout of the movie and the actual real confrontation and beam struggle at the end.
Order of the Phoenix I only really remember the fight scene at the end being semi decent.
The ones after that all kind of blur together for me and I can't bring myself to watch whichever one it is with that Umbridge woman. Making a character you're supposed to hate is fine, but it was too effective and now I don't even want to watch it again.
In conclusion, "Harry potter is dead .... Nyeh HehHeh."
https://youtu.be/W-I3ZmnaGsU?list=PL0vmonvds-FnR-TaMbiL5xrtm6maIq-D6&t=18
 

jaybeeze

Member
Prizoner of Azkaban is my favourite. It's such a stand out imo.

Half Blood Prince is awful though. The whole scene
where the Weasley house is burned down and destroyed
pisses me off everytime I see it. The only redeeming factor is how the retrieval of the locket was portayed.
 
In this threads I've always wondered how do people expect directors to adapt 1000 page books in 2.5 hours max without it feeling bloated as fuck and boring as something like, The lord of the rings.

Order of the phoenix is perfectly fine. Who really cares about Neville before, when he gets
that fucking amazing moment in movie 8
 
In this threads I've always wondered how do people expect directors to adapt 1000 page books in 2.5 hours max without it feeling bloated as fuck and boring as something like, The lord of the rings.

Order of the phoenix is perfectly fine. Who really cares about Neville before, when he gets
that fucking amazing moment in movie 8
I actually do like the OOTP movie, I felt the book was too bloated. There are scenes I wish had been adapted but that's true of any HP movie (other than Chamber of Secrets which is by far the closest adaptation and also imo one of the lesser movies/books).

Now Goblet of Fire, there's a dumpster fire of a film. Nice moments but it's the only HP movie I actively dislike because the pacing is so all over the place.
 
Also, wtf was up with this:
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Because Mike Newell is a madman. Goblet of Fire is the only Harry potter movie that feels like it was made on acid (perhaps it indeed was).

Everyone acts like a complete lunatic (not just Dumbledore), everyone's hair is out of control, the colour palette and direction is more exuberant than usual, the books' most complex plot is rendered nonsensical by the cut-up script, and the pacing is just all over the place. Also, there's the scene with a midget crowdsurfing.

It's the weirdest movie of the series by far (and according to most people, the worst in the series).
 
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