LTTP: Scooby-Doo: Mystery Inc.

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Like a twisting tree branch from the other Scooby thread, a new thread emerges.

So, people have been telling me this was an actual good Doo. I was skeptical. "Yes" I thought "It might have some *some* cool stuff, but it can't *all* be that great".

Just finished episode one on NetFlix.
I'll be binge watching the rest of the series for the next few days now.

An actual, legit Doo series. Smart, witty, retains what it is (a funny little cartoon about a hippie and a dog solving mysteries), but also retcons in backstory and justification for every portion of the Doo mythology/universe. You understand WHY these four people got together. WHY they solve mysteries (and how the town views this). WHAT their relationships ARE. Even better, you understand who exactly Fred, Shaggy, Scooby, Daphne, and Velma ARE. The show even throws in some twists and turns that flip what we thought these characters were. That's just the first six and a half minutes.

The writing is super clever, going as far as to make some pretty Animaniac-level jokes, and the stakes in each mystery seem real. People get hurt.

Also, season long mystery with smaller B Mysteries. I only hope it gets more epic.

Seriously, check it out on NetFlix if you can. It is, as Bueller says, so choice.
 
I'm way way behind, but this is the best Scooby Doo incarnation in history.
 
I watched the first two episode, solid so far but not great, some very smart dialogue in quite a few moments. The serialized part with E has been quite cheesy but I'm interested to see what it and the show develops into.

The background art, man is it ugly and static.
 
What the......a "good" Scooby Doo series? There's "Doo mythology" and "lore"? O_____O

I guess anything's possible but I'm only familiar with the cheesy original version where they'd pull the mask off the ghost and the villain is always some haggard, creepy middle aged guy.

Oh and the live action film with Buffy as Daphne...
 
It had a spark when it first started, but I haven't liked what I've seen of the second season so far. All the references Velma makes to
her brief relationship with shaggy
begins to reach friends levels of annoying.

I like most about the show that scooby has actual competent moments. He's in rare form at the end of s1 finale and the beginning of season 2.
 
Episode four has the highest count of esoteric and adult humor so far,
not counting all the Fred is Gay stuff in episode three
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enigmatic_alex44 said:
What the......a "good" Scooby Doo series? There's "Doo mythology" and "lore"? O_____O

I guess anything's possible but I'm only familiar with the cheesy original version where they'd pull the mask off the ghost and the villain is always some haggard, creepy middle aged guy.

Oh and the live action film with Buffy as Daphne...
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Watch. It.

Trey said:
It had a spark when it first started, but I haven't liked what I've seen of the second season so far. All the references Velma makes to
her brief relationship with shaggy
begins to reach friends levels of annoying.

I like most about the show that scooby has actual competent moments. He's in rare form at the end of s1 finale and the beginning of season 2.
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The show clearly hints that Shaggy is the one that put the team together, and has a very quick mind.
 
I started watching this because of a thread on here a few years ago. The hype is real, this definitely isn't your parents' Scooby Doo. And it is legitimately funny, especially if you're familiar with the formula of the series that preceded Mystery Inc.

It really is the best Scooby Doo anything out there, by a huge margin.
 
The first episode is hilarious.

"But why would you need money when you already work as a teacher?"

"..."

"Ooooooh"
 
Well I just watched the first episode and I'm actually quite surprised. Really good. The team dynamic feels really natural. Might just watch the rest now.
 
It is absolutely, without question, overwrought grimdark. That is undeniably true.

That is part of what makes it so fantastic. You just don't expect this stuff from Scooby.
 
Um.... not really.

There's some mature stuff in here, but nothing I would call "grimdark".

Unless you also want to call Teddy Ruxbin grimdark, which had the same balance of mature and zany.
 
Super spoiler question:

How insanely wealthy is Mr. E? Why does he want the treasure so badly if he can just afford to spend a ridiculous amount of money on different things like that witch house and his own lair?
 
Abe Bly said:
Super spoiler question:

How insanely wealthy is Mr. E? Why does he want the treasure so badly if he can just afford to spend a ridiculous amount of money on different things like that witch house and his own lair?
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Not quite there yet, but:

I'm assuming the treasure is more than just a literal treasure. I'm assuming that we're going to be getting a mystery that is much more supernatural than natural, and that the "treasure" may actually be something like a God or whatnot. Given where I am in the series, I assume that all the animal pets for the mystery groups are actually some reincarnation of something.
 
HP_Wuvcraft said:
Not quite there yet, but:

I'm assuming the treasure is more than just a literal treasure. I'm assuming that we're going to be getting a mystery that is much more supernatural than natural, and that the "treasure" may actually be something like a God or whatnot. Given where I am in the series, I assume that all the animal pets for the mystery groups are actually some reincarnation of something.
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No, I've seen the whole series a couple times now, so I know what happens. In regards to what I asked previously,
there's literally a point where Mr. E and Professor Pericles clink wine grape juice glasses over "we're going to be so rich when we get the treasure!"
 
Lord British said:
I'm not criticising it. In terms of Scooby-Doo it's about as dark as it gets. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the term "grimdark"?
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I mean, this is what I think of when I think "grimdark."

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Not the humorous adventures of a bunch of cartoon teenagers and their talking dog solving mysteries.
 
HP_Wuvcraft said:
Um.... not really.

There's some mature stuff in here, but nothing I would call "grimdark".
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You just started it and there's two seasons.

There's definitely some grim stuff that even shocked me, simply because it was in a kids' show--especially towards the end. Grimdark is pushing it, tough.
 
Toa TAK said:
You're dead to me.
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I will explain it in the only way I know how. Some deconstruction takes on characters work best when it is not the character it is based on.

The Four in Planetary worked great because it wasn't the Fantastic Four, but also made you look at the Fantastic Four differently.

The Plutoian worked because he wasn't Superman, but at the same time it made you more sympathetic to Superman.

Now if you had superman running around killing and raping people, sinking Singpore, it would look like some grimdark fanfiction. But because it isn't Superman it made more of an impact and made you reconsider the tropes.
 
i also started watching mystery inc. because of that thread. i'm on episode two and its pretty funny. i laughed too hard at traps illustrated
 
Slayven said:
I will explain it in the only way I know how. Some deconstruction takes on characters work best when it is not the character it is based on.

The Four in Planetary worked great because it wasn't the Fantastic Four, but also made you look at the Fantastic Four differently.

The Plutoian worked because he wasn't Superman, but at the same time it made you more sympathetic to Superman.

Now if you had superman running around killing and raping people, sinking Singpore, it would look like some grimdark fanfiction. But because it isn't Superman it made more of an impact and made you reconsider the tropes.
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Eeehhhh, okay half-revived I guess, but some does, right? Why couldn't it work with the same characters, or in this case with the Gang?

Doesn't Ultimate Spider-Man do a good job deconstructing Spider-Man mythic itself?
 
Slayven said:
I will explain it in the only way I know how. Some deconstruction takes on characters work best when it is not the character it is based on.

The Four in Planetary worked great because it wasn't the Fantastic Four, but also made you look at the Fantastic Four differently.

The Plutoian worked because he wasn't Superman, but at the same time it made you more sympathetic to Superman.

Now if you had superman running around killing and raping people, sinking Singpore, it would look like some grimdark fanfiction. But because it isn't Superman it made more of an impact and made you reconsider the tropes.
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In that case, any adaptation that takes itself seriously is grimdark.
 
Oh my God, they even have the Hex Girls. This really does have nostalgia references for every era of Scooby Doo.

EDIT: "I tried to get revenge by writing bad songs for them, but they can make anything a hit!" This series has so much self-aware humor.
 
Just gonna copy my post from the old thread:

Its on Netflix and very good.

+ multiple serious overarching mysteries and foreshadowing
+ quality original characters
+ legitimate twist moments
+ nice variety of monsters
+ gets pretty fucking dark at times
+ romance!

Also to add, I remember watching the first season finale in the middle of the night and being legitimately freaked out. Some of the monsters in this are actually spooky.
 
Astral said:
Is the entire series only 2 seasons? I've been avoiding it on Netflix thinking it was incomplete.
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Yeah, it is. It's still good, though. Not sure where Slayven's coming from, it definitely didn't feel grimdark. It straddles the border between a satisfying darkness that gives it weight balanced by a wonderful sense of humour and whimsicality.
 
Astral said:
Is the entire series only 2 seasons? I've been avoiding it on Netflix thinking it was incomplete.
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Its not exactly incomplete. Its more like the overarching mystery wrapped up completely, but the writers created a new plotline in case the series was renewed. I guarantee that the ending doesn't feel incomplete in any way.
 
Just watched episode 14.
Watch with subtitles on if you want to see how awful subtitles on netflix can be. Subtitles say the craziest things.
 
Abe Bly said:
No, I've seen the whole series a couple times now, so I know what happens. In regards to what I asked previously,
there's literally a point where Mr. E and Professor Pericles clink wine grape juice glasses over "we're going to be so rich when we get the treasure!"
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At that point though I don't think Mr E knew what the treasure was. Only Pericles knew and he was stringing Mr. E along for access to his resources.
 
just watched the first episode after reading this thread. i generally quite liked it. reminded me a lot of a combination of a lot of the older serieses mixed together but with a modern twist. A pup named scooby doo in particular comes to mind with how self aware it is and them being around one town consistently. Only complaints are it could have been slowed down a bit, its a bit too blatant with its self awareness, and its a bit weird to have both female characters having romantic interests in the male characters who aren't quite going for their advances.

either way it felt generally nice with a lovely art style and i'm really curious how they're going to deal with an overarching plot so i'm going to watch a bunch more
 
I seem to recall them making fun of Scrappy Doo also, maybe in a museum somewhere. And there was possibly a Goosebumps parody episode?

I liked season 1 -- some clever references for adults, continuing plot arc, good animation, interesting story. I never watched season 2 but maybe some day I'll finish it! It probably is my favorite Scooby Doo series ever.
 
Abe Bly said:
Super spoiler question:

How insanely wealthy is Mr. E? Why does he want the treasure so badly if he can just afford to spend a ridiculous amount of money on different things like that witch house and his own lair?
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The Cursed Treasure of Crystal Cove, and by extent, Niberu, curses all those interested about the object. Mr. E is just trying to justify his obsession over the treasure. Even if he didn't settle on money, he would eventually try and find the treasure with another excuse.

Even so, I don't think the sharing of "wine" was to celebrate the treasure but to rebond the friendship between Mr. E and the parrot.
 
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