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Velma (from Scooby Doo) gets her own TV series!

The cringey ultra-woke rhetoric that Velma spouts is not played straight, like literally everything else in the show its an inversion for ironic "laughs".
See, I don’t think that they’re saying those things ironically. I’ve been catching glimpses of Georgia and Ginny than my wife has been watching in the background. And the characters say some of the most retarded woke shit and play it with straight. Velma come from the same mould of people.
 

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See, I don’t think that they’re saying those things ironically. I’ve been catching glimpses of Georgia and Ginny than my wife has been watching in the background. And the characters say some of the most retarded woke shit and play it with straight. Velma come from the same mould of people.

That's "the joke". Throughout Velma isn't shown to be what she thinks she is, and certainly not a good person.

There's an extended gag where she's trying and failing to sell drugs because she's incapable of not pissing people off with her relentless snark and judgmentalism! The same self-righteous judgementalism that later she has a literal (this show doesn't do subtle) moment of clarity and self-awareness about.
 
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GeekyDad

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So bad it's good? It sounds like it has nothing to do with Scooby Doo.
I wouldn't say, "that's kind of the point," but it seems like the show is meant to focus on making fun of the characters and original show in general, using the "cunt" as a device to so.
 
That's "the joke". Throughout Velma isn't shown to be what she thinks she is, and certainly not a good person.

There's an extended gag where she's trying and failing to sell drugs because she's incapable of not pissing people off with her relentless snark and judgmentalism! The same self-righteous judgementalism that later she has a literal (this show doesn't do subtle) moment of clarity and self-awareness about.
So the only flaw she has is that she openly treats other people as if she’s smarter than them (which we know she is)? Does she get made a fool of at any point in the movie?

I don’t think that “that’s the point”. Mindy Kaling self-inserts in all her shows but all her “flaws” end up being a positive.
 

Ulysses 31

Member
"No concern with Scooby-Doo's history and characterizations and the characters are basically just wearing similar clothes to the originals"

 
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Doczu

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Dam , you guys still posting about it? I literally went twice through all available Velma cosplay pics and vids and had a blast. Literally.
Surely more fun than this series will ever provide.

Once again the fans provided better adult Velma content than this corpo shit could
 
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The effect this show has on minds is amazing.

Yeah, it feels entirely contrived to fan bait and stir up Twitter warriors on both sides of the culture war.

Which makes it sound cleverer than what it actually is, because if you consider that 99% of the gags in the show are about media, internet discourse around media is basically only a single step removed from that.

The fundamental mistake it makes is to treat every cliche as a trope, and mistakenly believes that inverting and meta-commenting on every trope is a sure-fire route to ironic laughs. Its like its written by a bunch of Abed's in a writer's room amusing themselves with total disregard for the audience.
 

Kraz

Banned
It's so bad even the freaks at resetera largely don't like it. This might be the most united the internet has been about a show outside of game of thrones. Sounds like a positive effect to me.
It may be.

There just wasn't anything in it that was upsetting to me in the slightest way. That this show creates this storm is astonishing, and has got me wondering what's going on with it that can effect so many diverse people so powerfully. People will blame the show, which is partly true, but people are also responsible for themselves.

In a way it reminds me of Luke being tested by the force on Dagobah. "Your weapons - you do not need them."
 

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It may be.

There just wasn't anything in it that was upsetting to me in the slightest way. That this show creates this storm is astonishing, and has got me wondering what's going on with it that can effect so many diverse people so powerfully. People will blame the show, which is partly true, but people are also responsible for themselves.

In a way it reminds me of Luke being tested by the force on Dagobah. "Your weapons - you do not need them."

Yeah, the fog of (culture) war is real thick around this.

Quite interested in seeing where this is going if it continues the way I think. Because I really don't see it being the sincere woke-fest that may people believe it to be.
 
It may be.

There just wasn't anything in it that was upsetting to me in the slightest way. That this show creates this storm is astonishing, and has got me wondering what's going on with it that can effect so many diverse people so powerfully. People will blame the show, which is partly true, but people are also responsible for themselves.

In a way it reminds me of Luke being tested by the force on Dagobah. "Your weapons - you do not need them."
We get it - you like the show.
 

Kraz

Banned
That’s like admiring shit’s ability to trigger people’s olfactory sensitivities.
Not at all. That's just your defense mechanism trying to make your reaction something you'll do again without thinking.

Edit: In those terms, I think of it closer to a medical dye test that fluoresces culture warrior tumours. Or an allergy test.
 
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SJRB

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The more I see the reaction videos pouring all over Youtube, the more I see the rage memes on Twitter and Reddit, the more I think this show is specifically designed for rage watching.

It's hard not to be cynical about a show that seems tailormade to absolute perfection to make people angry. In a way it's kind of an accomplishment to unite literally everyone under one hate banner, I've never seen so many different groups banding together against a tv show before since probably S8 of Game of Thrones.
 

Happosai

Hold onto your panties
To me it feels like they're trying to fuel a race war.
It does suck to a level which makes animation fanatics like myself cringe. But, I'm going to cringe over it and at the end of the day, it's a cartoon. Shouldn't be race wars for any form of art medium. Not defending this turd by any means but I remember when they banned Mike Judge & his team from using "fire" in Beavis & Butthead because a boy supposedly burned down his trailer (killing his sister) after seeing Beavis do it (according to the Mom). The boy spoke up as an adult and stated that they never had cable, he never watched Beavis and Butthead and the mother was using drugs. There was so much contraversy on Beavis & Butthead and didn't start a war. Or to touch a bit closer -- watch Ralph Bakshi's "Coonskin." The movie actually portrays how elite white Hollywood or John Q. Public viewed black people in the 1970's. Everyone shouted racism but in recent years people who've seen it in the black community admitted it's one of the most accurate depictions in animation of how things were. Velma will never have a cultural impact like that. By the way, they did want a war over that film. Noise was so big outside Bakshi's producer studios that they were advised to scrap an entire early version of "Hey, Good Lookin'" ; a movie which he later remade almost entirely in the early 80's.
 

Razvedka

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In a way it reminds me of Luke being tested by the force on Dagobah. "Your weapons - you do not need them."
John Dee and his 'conversations'. What he brought to them and what they gave back.

A dark mirror.

It's interesting how often reality/the universe plays pantomime with us on stuff. In this case it may be something as prosaic as a bad adaptation of Scooby Doo.
 
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It may be.

There just wasn't anything in it that was upsetting to me in the slightest way. That this show creates this storm is astonishing, and has got me wondering what's going on with it that can effect so many diverse people so powerfully. People will blame the show, which is partly true, but people are also responsible for themselves.

In a way it reminds me of Luke being tested by the force on Dagobah. "Your weapons - you do not need them."
Just personally, the show isn't funny, it keeps trying to be this weird sense of edgy that gets more annoying as it tries. Like for example, Velma the character is written like someone who has heard of Daria but never seen it. They know she's aloof, quick with a sarcastic come back, and believes she's better than society, but none of the reflection Daria had. Daria is surrounded by people who aren't as pathetic as she believes them to be and her learning and coming to an understanding of that is what makes her endearing. It's too soon to judge but it doesn't feel Velma is headed that way and thus she just comes off as insufferable. Doesn't help that the rest of the cast are worse than she is. Norvel constantly not trying to be a stoner stereotype isn't funny and neither is his "beta male" tendencies. Fred is literally just an unfunny joke, they do nothing with him but make fun of him the moment he's on screen. That twitter post going around with the four moments they talk about Fred is literally all they do with him. Daphnie is forgettable and doesn't feel like she's there for any other reason than sexual tension.

The show just doesn't feel like it was made in any form of earnest. Like it was made to be hated. I don't believe it was, I believe the writer thought they were funny or smart, but it doesn't feel that way.
 
Not at all. That's just your defense mechanism trying to make your reaction something you'll do again without thinking.

Edit: In those terms, I think of it closer to a medical dye test that fluoresces culture warrior tumours. Or an allergy test.
No, the writers are just bad writers who believe the crap that they spout. Just look at the nonsense that the woke creators or journalists come up with. You think “surely it’s done on purpose” whereas in reality these people just think that they are right.
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
/r/cineshots having fun with the show now. I don't think I've ever seen such a universal lampooning of a show before. Usually a show, no matter how poor, will have some small contingent of fans.

 

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Everything I've heard of this show makes it seem like a secretly based meta-joke at all the woke shit. Which that very thought is hilarious in it's own right that we've got Poe's Law in action.

To be honest that's kinda what it looks like. I mean if you take Mindy Kaling's comments prior to launch about Velma being some sort of aspirational heroine for today you'd expect her to be characterized as a Mary Sue, effortless better and smarter than those around her.

However on the basis of the first two episodes, she's shown to be clumsy, shallow, and not especially smart. The only redeeming feature of her character is that she's showing brief glimmers of self-awareness about how full of shit she is. This isn't me "reading into" intent btw, all these are all traits the show overtly trades on for "laughs". I mean, I have to stress again how can you square this woke heroine's bona-fides with a running gag in the second episode where she demonstrates that she's so gratingly mouthy and opinionated that she can't sell drugs to addicts?


I can't help but feel like people are misreading everything about the show. For instance, there's the bit where Norville is shown to blink meaningfully after saying he's not into drugs. The thing is this "wink" is at the audience's expectations because again throughout he's presented as being totally straight about this. He's also the "smart" character who actively pushing the investigation forward not Velma.

All this of course isn't good writing or characterization, its simply basic-bitch inversion of expectation. This new Shaggy isn't a gormless, cowardly pot-head, ha-ha! He's actually the smart one of the group and utterly oblivious to his food vlog to being avidly followed by stoners.
 

Dr. Claus

Banned
This is a TikTok I came across and she basically breaks down WHY the show isn't working with so many of y'all. And what she SHOULD have done differently...

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Yea, they only needed to scrap the script, fire the writers, fire the animators, hire new writers, focus on what made scooby-doo fun, and not be openly racist pieces of shit.

Really isn't that hard, yet we have people defending these miserable cunts and this shitty show.
 
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