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SuicideUZI
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Haha I'm a complete noob, at this point I'd be happy to make a functional tip calculator, so I don't foresee competing with Epic any time in the near future
BolognaSoup
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Buy a 400+ day old iMac with yesteryear's tech and yesteryear's prices and get a $100 gift card?! Where do I sign up?!
Still mad about these iMacs...
Still mad about these iMacs...
D
Deleted member 17706
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Any gaming benchmarks for the new MacBook Air line? I was thinking about getting the Retina MacBook Pro, but after some thought, I think I may just end up with the updated 13" Air.
I'm not expecting amazing performance, but if anyone knows where I can find some gaming-specific benchmarks, please share!
I'm not expecting amazing performance, but if anyone knows where I can find some gaming-specific benchmarks, please share!
Shalashaska161
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Not really much of a different there between the i7 and i5 Macbook Airs. Pretty much confirms that the cheaper version is the way to go for me. Now I just have to decide if I should wait til the new OS is out or not.
Got the Shakes
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As in Mountain Lion? Any MacBook you buy right now will allow you to upgrade to Mountain Lion for free.
Cross posting this from the WWDC thread, anyways I need some advice on a new Macbook.
- My budget isn't too big, I'd love the new retina one and I could afford it but I don't think I want to spend so much money on a computer. I think I want to spend around $1200.
- 11" is too small, 15" seems like a perfect size, but expensive as fuck and perhaps a little big to carry so much around.... So I think 13" is the only viable option.
- I will take it with my to university everyday, and I might want to take it when traveling in the future.
- I will use it mainly for internet / writing down notes / Photoshop / Photo Editing (Lightroom) / Video editing (Premiere / Final Cut Pro).
- I want to do some 1080p editing (T2i footage converted to Apple Proress 422) on it (I could always connect it to a monitor if it is anything serious).
- Not a must, but I'd love to play some Diablo 3 (on low settings?) on it.
Anyways I am thinking of getting the (lower end) 13" and adding an extra 4GB RAM (and perhaps a SSD later). Would that be the best choise for me? Is the 13" (cheaper model) enought? Or should I get an Air (13") / 13" (expensive model) or something different?
Thanks GAF!
- My budget isn't too big, I'd love the new retina one and I could afford it but I don't think I want to spend so much money on a computer. I think I want to spend around $1200.
- 11" is too small, 15" seems like a perfect size, but expensive as fuck and perhaps a little big to carry so much around.... So I think 13" is the only viable option.
- I will take it with my to university everyday, and I might want to take it when traveling in the future.
- I will use it mainly for internet / writing down notes / Photoshop / Photo Editing (Lightroom) / Video editing (Premiere / Final Cut Pro).
- I want to do some 1080p editing (T2i footage converted to Apple Proress 422) on it (I could always connect it to a monitor if it is anything serious).
- Not a must, but I'd love to play some Diablo 3 (on low settings?) on it.
Anyways I am thinking of getting the (lower end) 13" and adding an extra 4GB RAM (and perhaps a SSD later). Would that be the best choise for me? Is the 13" (cheaper model) enought? Or should I get an Air (13") / 13" (expensive model) or something different?
Thanks GAF!
I would go for the 13" Air.
The normal Pro's are heavy and not very portable. If you could flex it, the retina Pro would be the best option but the second I would say is the 13" Air as it's very portable and pretty powerful too.
But how is the 13" for (1080p) video editing? I am talking about pretty basic things and not heavy After Effects stuff. Is it good enough for it? It's a pretty important point for me.
Crazymoogle
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Not that I've ever done any video editing on the 13", but it's a competent CPU. The 13" Pro has better CPU options...but then again, the 13" Air has a better screen resolution. Neither can do fullscreen 1080p viewing - unless you use an external monitor - and both systems can be setup with 8GB of RAM if you desire (although with the Air you need to do that during the order process)
Diablo is probably going to struggle either way.
If at all possible I'd do the CPU upgrade but at your budget I'm not sure either CPU or RAM is on your immediate price range.
I haven't personally tried any editing so I'm afraid I can't help you there. I'm guessing it'll be ok for basic stuff though.
The retina pro will undoubtedly be the best option for any serious editing.
As for gaming, I don't think it would work very well. I have the previous Air and gaming causes the fans to go crazy so it's a no go for me (with simple 3D games such as Torchlight).
The iMacs are fine. You don't want the integrated graphics that ivy bridge supplies.
I'm kind of in a similar position as you. I was really hoping for a retina MBA. The new macbook pro is way out of my budget. But then I found out about the new Zenbooks. In particular the Asus Zenbook UX32VD, which I'm pretty much sold on. So a couple specs of note:
- 13 Inch Ultrabook (slightly larger, heavier than MBA, barely noticeable difference)
- Full 1920x1080p IPS display
- Discrete Graphics (Nvidia 620M + Intel HD4000) - It will play Diablo 3 on Medium/High @1366x768!!! (Medium ~50fps, High ~29fps)
- Not unibody - meaning you can swap out ram and hard drive.
- $1299
- Due out sometime this month
The user knows it is a MacBook, no point in reminding them about that
The only branding it needs is the aluminum shell with the Apple logo lit up on the back.Regardless, it's breaking a 10+ year tradition.The user knows it is a MacBook, no point in reminding them about that
Ok so 8gb vs. 16 for the base retina?????
I ordered an 8gb ram, but am now freaking out due to the unability to upgrade it.
I plan on using this computer for med school stuff, and moderate gaming (indie stuff, maybe some valve, D3/SC2/Titan maybe etc., Firaxis).
Is it worth the 16gb? I plan on using this for 4-5 years.
Well, its not so much the $200 now as it is the process of canceling my order and dealing with the long ass ship times.
I ordered an 8gb ram, but am now freaking out due to the unability to upgrade it.
I plan on using this computer for med school stuff, and moderate gaming (indie stuff, maybe some valve, D3/SC2/Titan maybe etc., Firaxis).
Is it worth the 16gb? I plan on using this for 4-5 years.
Well, its not so much the $200 now as it is the process of canceling my order and dealing with the long ass ship times.
Crazymoogle
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Depends what "med school stuff" counts as. I certainly wouldn't feel like I'd need to upgrade it for gaming. 16GB is probably a smart idea long term although you'll probably have trouble running 3D heavy games well before you have trouble filling out 16GB of RAM...
Circle T
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It's on the underside of the machine.
Interficium
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Why do I always scroll down to read the comments. Why.
imaging software mainly.
Interficium
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I got 16gb in my MBP order but really the only thing I think it will be useful for (at the moment) will be stuff like running photoshop/illustrator/indesign simultaneously. That way each app will get a nice 4gb chunk of ram.
You think so? So there are absolutely no reasons to get 16GB of RAM if I don't intend to do any audio/video/image processing/editing?
I would definitely say 16GB is overkill.
On my desktop I have 8GB and can run big games like GTA IV/Max Payne 3 very easily. I have no issues with having a game running as well as a browser and a load of other background tasks.
I'm just concerned about the future-proofness. If I buy one, I'll want to use it for at least 5 years, like my current one. But if games won't ever take advantage of the memory, it would make little sense.
Crazymoogle
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The jumps from 1-2-4GB have been pretty significant for computing, but the amount used by software is still going to slowly increase. 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5...not 8, 16, 32. Consumer RAM capacity has been rapidly outstripping the usage growth rate for awhile now. Even Crysis 2 has only one level that approaches 4GB, and I'm guessing even then it's as swap space for VRAM. If you're not running with extremely high levels of detail, you won't even stress VRAM let alone main memory.
With 3D professional software where there is tons of content to manage (CAD, Maya, etc) capacity is always wanted. Same goes for heavy video editing or extreme-density photography (ie: Adobe apps can be set to just dedicate a chunk of memory while running. If I was using photoshop and Premiere all day and wanted to keep both open to swap 16MP images, then yeah, the benefit of more memory is pretty obvious)
To a more average consumer, 16GB is just crazy. Your priority should really be:
1. SSD: Makes the clearest difference in everyday performance, bar none
2. Faster video card (if possible): Better FPS, AKA your machine takes longer to get dated
3. Faster CPU (if possible): Ditto
4. >8GB RAM
But the thing is, you could upgrade all of that stuff, and maybe get 4-5 years...but it's just as likely with the speed of CPU improvements that it could be heavily dated in 2.5-3 years, at which point the extra money spent on upgrades could have been put towards a brand new machine...
If you run virtual machines the extra memory can be useful as well.
Damn, I'm still unsure about the configuration. But thanks for your advice.
Something else: Could you recommend me a good looking sleeve for the MBP? Just to avoid scratches and keep dust away when carrying it in my backpack. For travels etc I've already got a robust Samsonite bag.
Something else: Could you recommend me a good looking sleeve for the MBP? Just to avoid scratches and keep dust away when carrying it in my backpack. For travels etc I've already got a robust Samsonite bag.
Robobandit
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I'm seriously considering the 2.6Ghz Retina macbook Pro configured w/ 16GB of ram..
I don't think I need that much ram for most things i will do with the machine.. but for the next few months I'll be running a lot of virtual machines on it and having that extra ram would be nice..
my only real dilemma is that to get 16GB, I can only order it through Apple.. whereas I could otherwise order it through Amazon and save myself a couple hundred in sales tax.
Essentially, the $200 ram upgrade becomes a $400 upgrade due to the sales tax difference.. decisions decisions..
I don't think I need that much ram for most things i will do with the machine.. but for the next few months I'll be running a lot of virtual machines on it and having that extra ram would be nice..
my only real dilemma is that to get 16GB, I can only order it through Apple.. whereas I could otherwise order it through Amazon and save myself a couple hundred in sales tax.
Essentially, the $200 ram upgrade becomes a $400 upgrade due to the sales tax difference.. decisions decisions..
2013
Before seeing the prices I was completely set on replacing my 2007 Macbook Pro with a new retina, what a gorgeous machine, however sticker shock got the better of me.
There's nothing really wrong with my old machine considering I have a desktop and mostly use it for web browsing, music, on the go work etc i.e. nothing intensive and £1800 for that kind of usage would be ridiculous ... albeit awesome.
So instead I have just ordered a new SSD and 4 gigs of Ram to help breath some life into the old champ. Sure the Core 2 Duo can't hold a candle to modern CPUs but I'm hoping the extra Ram and faster SDD will provide a good boost in programs I'm using it for - it certainly isn't feeling CPU limited (been staring at the Activity Monitor since placing the order as well to try and fend of buyers remorse lol ^^).
There's nothing really wrong with my old machine considering I have a desktop and mostly use it for web browsing, music, on the go work etc i.e. nothing intensive and £1800 for that kind of usage would be ridiculous ... albeit awesome.
So instead I have just ordered a new SSD and 4 gigs of Ram to help breath some life into the old champ. Sure the Core 2 Duo can't hold a candle to modern CPUs but I'm hoping the extra Ram and faster SDD will provide a good boost in programs I'm using it for - it certainly isn't feeling CPU limited (been staring at the Activity Monitor since placing the order as well to try and fend of buyers remorse lol ^^).
Sad face... source?
Bah, looks like I was stating shit off an old update from here:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/11/3079573/mac-pro-imac-resdesign-2013
Now it looks like only Mac Pros update in 2013.
Now this gives me hope for an iMac update this fall as well. *rubs hands together*
Wow. AA isn't even needed anymore at that res.
Good Job Bob
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Any vids of Diablo running on a 2012 MBA?
Emperor Bohe
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umm... does anyone know if the geforce gtx 680 has been confirmed to me compatible with Mountain Lion?
It's because people can hack it. If you want to use it as just an Apple TV the new one is best since it has 1080p support.
Hm. Hopefully they'll have one with Aperture and Photoshop installed on display. I want to throw some image files on there to see if the scaling messes with them.