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Mac OS X Mountain Lion. Move your Mac even further ahead

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Ambitious

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I'm trying to do a clean reinstallation of Mountain Lion via internet recovery, as I don't have an USB drive with me right now. But for some reason, I can't connect to my WiFi on the internet recovery screen. The password textfield is just waggling as if I entered a wrong password. I didn't. I've carefully tried over 15 times now and made sure I didn't confuse a zero with an O etc, it just doesn't work.

There's no problem with the network; I can connect from OS X and just set up the connection on my iPad without problems. What's going on here?
 
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Phoenix

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Ambitious said:
I'm trying to do a clean reinstallation of Mountain Lion via internet recovery, as I don't have an USB drive with me right now. But for some reason, I can't connect to my WiFi on the internet recovery screen. The password textfield is just waggling as if I entered a wrong password. I didn't. I've carefully tried over 15 times now and made sure I didn't confuse a zero with an O etc, it just doesn't work.

There's no problem with the network; I can connect from OS X and just set up the connection on my iPad without problems. What's going on here?
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A while back there was an issue with Internet Recovery and certain types of network security not being supported. That could be your issue. If you tune your router to a more permissive "ass rape" WPA it may work.
 
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Ambitious

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Got my Mac back and restored my Time Machine backup. The trackpad acceleration is really, really awful now..
Many months ago I used some app to fix it, but I can't remember which one. Currently trying Decelerate and the Mouse Acceleration prefpane, but I can't get it right. So annoying.

edit: Alright, it's bearable now.
 
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Lord Error

Insane For Sony
Is anyone else getting an update request from the Mac App Store application, telling them to get the update for Fantastic 4 in a Row? I've never downloaded or even heard seen that game on their store before, but I have a red number 1, and that's the app it tells me to update when I click on it.
 
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JMizzlin

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Trying to install W8 on a fresh Bootcamp partition but my Mac doesn't give me the option to install from a USB like I've seen some people able to. Anyone know why/how to fix it?
 
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CrudeDiatribe

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Lord Error said:
Is anyone else getting an update request from the Mac App Store application, telling them to get the update for Fantastic 4 in a Row? I've never downloaded or even heard seen that game on their store before, but I have a red number 1, and that's the app it tells me to update when I click on it.
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Not me. Check the purchases tab, it will tell you when you got it. Maybe you forgot?

minor effort said:
The only thing that I feel the OSX design desperately needs is an un-Forstalling of the default apps, much like iOS.
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Jobs loved this shit too.
 
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badcrumble

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minor effort said:
The only thing that I feel the OSX design desperately needs is an un-Forstalling of the default apps, much like iOS.

Calendar, Notes, Reminders, etc.
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Yeah. Understandably, the visual-UI-design folks have been busy with Retina Display support for OS X and with updating apps for the iPhone 5's taller screen, but hopefully now they can turn their attention to a full visual refresh for iOS and OS X that speaks the same overall visual language across the board while still making it clear which app is which. And yeah, Calendar, Notes, Reminders, and Game Center need to be fixed up and made less gross to look at (and more functional).

Heck, OS X still needs serious consistency between its apps. It's an absolute embarrassment that iTunes on OS X still uses popup windows for open/save/error dialogs instead of Save Sheets and Error Sheets, which have been available in Mac OS X since, like, day one.
 
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Ambitious

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badcrumble said:
Heck, OS X still needs serious consistency between its apps. It's an absolute embarrassment that iTunes on OS X still uses popup windows for open/save/error dialogs instead of Save Sheets and Error Sheets, which have been available in Mac OS X since, like, day one.
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What I don't get is why they don't display active downloads in iTunes the same way as in Safari. Why is it a popup window?

And is there a good reason for iTunes being the only stock app (I think) to have OK and Cancel buttons in the settings instead of applying settings immediately?

And something unrelated, it really pisses me off that they're not allowing selecting text in the App Store app. Everytime I see a funny app description or review I want to share, I have to google for "<app> itunes" to go to the web preview to copy it from there.
 
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badcrumble

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Ambitious said:
What I don't get is why they don't display active downloads in iTunes the same way as in Safari. Why is it a popup window?

And is there a good reason for iTunes being the only stock app (I think) to have OK and Cancel buttons in the settings instead of applying settings immediately?
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I guarantee you that iTunes's UI shittiness is because it's built simultaneously for OS X and Windows and they don't want to differentiate the two builds that strongly.
 
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The Real Abed

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badcrumble said:
I guarantee you that iTunes's UI shittiness is because it's built simultaneously for OS X and Windows and they don't want to differentiate the two builds that strongly.
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Can we use that excuse for QuickTime too? (The app, not the codec) What about Safari? (Though wasn't the Windows version discontinued now?)
 
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Dreams-Visions

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anyone know if it's possible to simply do a normal upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8 in Bootcamp? I've tried more than a few times and always get an error on reboot that the system can't find winloader.exe. It just reverts back to Windows 7.

Sure I can blow away my Windows 7 install and install from scratch, but I just didn't feel like it so if I can avoid all that I'd like to.
 
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KtSlime

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badcrumble said:
I guarantee you that iTunes's UI shittiness is because it's built simultaneously for OS X and Windows and they don't want to differentiate the two builds that strongly.
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Part of its shittiness derives from the fact that it was originally an Mac OS 9 app as well.

The Real Abed: I'm fine with that assessment.
 
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The Real Abed

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Sucks that the biggest parts of OS X are only shitty because they have to be available on Windows too.

If only they would hire seasoned Windows programmers and UI designers to work with the OS X teams to build cross-platform versions of all the apps that worked well on each platform and still felt like a native app.
 
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Ambitious

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badcrumble said:
I guarantee you that iTunes's UI shittiness is because it's built simultaneously for OS X and Windows and they don't want to differentiate the two builds that strongly.
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Maybe - but concerning this specific example, I would have expected them to prioritize the UI standards of OS X, not Windows. Though it makes kinda sense, as the number of Windows installations is much higher.
 
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CrudeDiatribe

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They didn't prioritize the Windows version any more than they had to; have you ever met a Windows user that liked Quicktime Player, iTunes, or Safari on that platform?
 
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Jadedx

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Okay guys after years of hearing how great they are from friends I finally decided to get a mac, its a used one but I got a good deal on it and it had decent specs. I have a mid 2010 macbook with a core 2 duo and the thing is slow as dirt and freezes all the time, I tried upgrading the ram, but it still freezes, I was told snow leopard was slow so I upgraded to mountain lion but it is still slow, I have a msi laptop with a celeron dual core that runs much better. Can someone help me out?
 
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fierrotlepou

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Jadedx said:
Okay guys after years of hearing how great they are from friends I finally decided to get a mac, its a used one but I got a good deal on it and it had decent specs. I have a mid 2010 macbook with a core 2 duo and the thing is slow as dirt and freezes all the time, I tried upgrading the ram, but it still freezes, I was told snow leopard was slow so I upgraded to mountain lion but it is still slow, I have a msi laptop with a celeron dual core that runs much better. Can someone help me out?
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Maybe it's a hard disk problem? My 2011 MBP started to run slow as well with the occasional beach ball and it was a HD problem. After putting in an SSD it's as fast as a new mac.
 
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GreatMightySymp

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Is anyone else able to get the left/right swipe gestures in Win8 via Bootcamp working on a magic trackpad? I have one for my iMac but the trackpad driver only seems to support the bare basics.
 
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Ambitious

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Got a nice, fast new router. Tried to copy some bigger files via WiFi from my rMBP to my Mac mini, and it's incredibly slow. Dial-up speed, actually. When I copy something from the mini to the rMPB though, it's as fast as it should be. Trying a few fix suggestions right now.. so annoying..

edit:
DL speed is the same on both devices. UL is fine on the mini, but hardly works on the rMPB. If it does, then it's 10kb/s or less. God I love my premium notebook.
edit2: I've reset the router, reconfigured WiFi on both devices and rebooted them. Still the same, upload speed from my rMBP is awful. The Finder of the device on which I initiate the transfer freezes.
edit3: Very likely a router issue.


CrudeDiatribe said:
They didn't prioritize the Windows version any more than they had to; have you ever met a Windows user that liked Quicktime Player, iTunes, or Safari on that platform?
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Yes. But I was referring only to the OK/Cancel buttons in the settings, not iTunes in general. I meant I would have expected them to use immediately applied settings in both versions instead of using Windows-style buttons.

Of course it's no big deal to me, I was just surprised they were still there in iTunes 11.
 
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RukusProvider

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Got a safari video playback issue.

Full screen video playback lags horrible.

Installed Chrome to make sure it's not the Hardware. It's not. Chrome and full screen video works great.

Any ideas?
 
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Miyahon

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Just got an iMac a few days ago and I'm looking to install Windows 8 to it too.

So far I looked online and it seems like there is only upgrade versions of Windows 8.

I did see an OEM one on Amazon but it's a disc and the new iMacs don't have a disc drive.

Is there a way to just maybe get a download full version of Windows 8 somewhere and just use the key from the disc?

Thanks
 
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Quick

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You can download an ISO of the full disc, and use the key, yeah.

And upgrade discs for Windows actually let you clean install anyway.
 
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Miyahon

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Quick said:
You can download an ISO of the full disc, and use the key, yeah.

And upgrade discs for Windows actually let you clean install anyway.
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Yeah I would need to get a full version of Windows and not an upgrade because I don't have a previous version of Windows installed. Do you know if there is an official source to get a Windows 8 Full Version ISO file and not an upgrade one? If not I can just borrow someone's computer to use their DVD drive to get a copy of it.
 
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Ambitious

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Since a few days, I'm experiencing strange connection problems on my rMBP. Occasionally, the internet connection just drops and I can't even ping Google. After disabling and enabling WiFi, it usually works again, though just five minutes ago I had to do this three times. The WiFi indicator in the menu bar always shows all bars, though.

It's no router problem. It happens in my flat and at my parent's house as well. Any ideas about that? I have really no clue, I didn't do anything. It just started to happen out of nowhere.
 
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mrkgoo

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Maybe I can get some advice here.

I'm thinking about upgrading my internal hard drive on my MacBook Pro.

Now, I've been doing this for a while where I use my MBP (pre-unibody) until space becomes minimal and then I swap my hard drive for a larger one.

I use time machine and backup, stick in the new drive, boot from DVD version of Mac OS X, format it for Mac OS journaled, then boot and restore from Time Machine.

Worked ok (had some issues but not insurmountable) for me so far.

Now I'm on Mountain Lion. That is, no DVD version to boot from. Now I've heard that the recovery partition is not reinstalled from a time machine restore, so I wanted to get ideas on how to do an internal drive swap.

I'm thinking:

1) backup drive to Time Machine
2) create a recovery USB stick for my computer
3) stick in the new HD
4) boot to USB

I'm assuming I get the disk utility option to format the new drive, as well as install Mountain Lion from it, which I assume creates a new recovery partition along with it.

Then:

5) boot and restore from Time Machine


Would this be a good idea to recover my machine onto a new drive and preserve the recovery partition?
 
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mrkgoo

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kennah said:
You can use an older cd to do a time machine restore. I just restored a Lion Time Machine using a Snow Leopard DVD
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Hmmm. Interesting.

Still doesn't really resolve my issue of wanting the recovery partition reinstated on the new drive though.
 
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mrkgoo

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CrudeDiatribe said:
Your method should work, mrkgoo, and if not, you still have the original HDD.

A $15 any-drive-to-USB kit may be handy if you do this a lot.
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Yeah and just do a clone via disk utility?

Dues this assign the same HD uuid?

I once dud a clone via super super and it messed up my iPhoto/aperture library because it was expecting a particular uuid
 
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CrudeDiatribe

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mrkgoo said:
Yeah and just do a clone via disk utility?
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Or restore from Time Machine from your fresh ML install. (misunderstood)

Yeah, or SuperDuper! or CCC.

mrkgoo said:
Dues this assign the same HD uuid?

I once did a clone via super super and it messed up my iPhoto/aperture library because it was expecting a particular uuid
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Huh, I've never had that problem. I use SuperDuper! all the time and have never had a problem opening a copied library (I don't use referenced masters though, but Aperture 3 can relocate those, IIRC).
 
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mrkgoo

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CrudeDiatribe said:
Or restore from Time Machine from your fresh ML install. (misunderstood)

Yeah, or SuperDuper! or CCC.



Huh, I've never had that problem. I use SuperDuper! all the time and have never had a problem opening a copied library (I don't use referenced masters though, but Aperture 3 can relocate those, IIRC).
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Yeah it was a referenced iPhone library thing via aperture. Because it identified the iPhone library via HD uuid, it couldn't see the iphone library after I installed. I'm sure that oversight has been fixed now though.

What do you mean misunderstood? Are you saying I can't use time machine after a fresh ML install? To clarify I'm going to try a fresh ML install and then open up recovery partition and do a time machine restore.
 
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CrudeDiatribe

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mrkgoo said:
What do you mean misunderstood? Are you saying I can't use time machine after a fresh ML install? To clarify I'm going to try a fresh ML install and then open up recovery partition and do a time machine restore.
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Yes, you can do that; I crossed that out when I decided your "clone via disk utility" was in reference to my USB-adaptor comment and not your earlier plan.
 
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OriginalThinking

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So I'm considering buying a Mac. I'm swaying between a Macbook Pro 13" with retina, an iMac 27" or potentially a Macbook air. I'm primarily going to be using it for web browsing, office type stuff (word, powerpoint etc) and watching videos, playing music. So nothing graphically intensive as I don't PC game.

On the one hand a laptop would be nice, but I'm probably going to get a work laptop soon which will almost certainly be Windows. Plus I already have a windows laptop which has terrible battery life and the screen ain't great. But the battery life and portability of a Macbook are really appealing especially if I want something reasonably lightweight to carry around with me for my own stuff. I like the air, but I'm worried about storage size. On the other hand I have a huge external hard drive for storing stuff on....

An iMac appeals to me for the size of screen, but I'm worried by the fact that I don't think I can use the monitor as an input for anything else. For example i might want to plug a PS3 in or a cable box. I know I can do this with PC All in ones. Is there a work around? The alternative is to buy a Macbook and separate monitor but then it gets hugely expensive.

And then there's rumours of new Macbooks and iMacs at the end of Q2.... so I don't want to buy something either for a) it to be blown away by the new stuff or b)Pay full price only for the prices of the current models to come crashing down when the new lineup is revealed.

Any advice??
 
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T.M. MacReady

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Just traded in my broken Asus laptop and got a Macbook Air, question:

Is there any app or feature I can enable that allows the windows on OSX to snap to fill half the screen if you drag them all the way to one side or the full screen if you drag them to the top like in windows 7?
 
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