Sure but everybody knows SE was/is in financial trouble from their premium games and lives off FF14 online and mobile/remasters. You seem to be suggesting $2.6M is fine though for a studio that has none of that as backup? What would be the ROI on that as a studio? I would imagine very low depending on the budget of the game, could have made more simply putting it in the bank.Square Enix posted loss in years they released their big games. FF16 and Rebirth. What's going to happen to them in the future?
Square Enix Ltd. – the European branch of Final Fantasy developer Square Enix, saw worsening financial losses in the fiscal year ended March 31, 2025 (as reported by GameBiz).
Headquartered in London, UK, Square Enix Ltd. develops, publishes, distributes and licenses Square Enix content in Europe and other PAL territories. In the past fiscal year, the company posted an operating loss of 12.57 billion yen (over $87 million USD) and a net loss of 12.64...
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Of course they have stuff coming up. Indiana Jones is getting expansion this year that will sell some premium edition upgrades.Sure but everybody knows SE was/is in financial trouble from their premium games and lives off FF14 online and mobile/remasters. You seem to be suggesting $2.6M is fine though for a studio that has none of that as backup? What would be the ROI on that as a studio? I would imagine very low depending on the budget of the game, could have made more simply putting it in the bank.
Wolfenstein trilogy final chapter is fucked isn't?!
They seems to have rather modest costI'm surprised to see they got profitable before releasing the PS5 version.
Machine games is separate company, not a division of MS. Reporting for divisions are mostly optional unlike accounting for companies.We all know MS is doing some funny accounting so who knows what the real situation is.
Never said anything remotely close to this.
In fact, I always rooted for NT (even under MS) and I've pre-ordered the PS5 edition of Hellblade 2.
So, there's that.
As I said, there is a thread from very recently where you announced and strongly bet on the announcement of the closure of the aforementioned Studios..... Respect yourself a little, friendWould be wiped out? Or could be on the chopping block?
All I said with certainty was that their games would flop, which they did.
I never said Sony was wrong for closing any of their studios.
As a matter of fact, I've always said those closures made perfect sense.
LOL. The only possible logic from someone like you. I mean, the one you'd like. You're very predictable.There is one simple logical reason:
The Xbox brand is dying.
At this point, they're lucky MS has deep pockets and doesn't just close down shop entirely.
Would be absolutely funny to see what Msft does to the larger pc to console market next gen with gp.MachineGames is owned by the $4 trillion company Microsoft, and unlike most of the Xbox/MS Gaming division companies, they are turning a profit
They'll be just fine lol
NoThat's a $247 million loss.
Shareholders wanted 2.7 million.....so everyone is fired.I wish I had 2.6 million after I'd paid everyone.
But that's not how companies work today. They don't want money, they want ALL the money.I wish I had 2.6 million after I'd paid everyone.
Just quote me.Oh, right, I forgot about your selective memory issues and how it's common for you to not remember what you said from one day to the next...
Please respect yourself, we were in this same situation a few months ago, and I don't feel like embarrassing you again by rescue your comments in threads about the closure of Ninja Theory
As I said, there is a thread from very recently where you announced and strongly bet on the announcement of the closure of the aforementioned Studios..... Respect yourself a little, friend
I didn't say you would say such a thing... I said that your eagerness, drive, and persistence in betting on and predicting the closure of Xbox studios is never appreciated when it comes to predicting and betting on the next studio Sony closes.
And no, you don't have to convince me. I'm clear that you're never going to argue or criticize Sony for closing a studio. You're simply always going to look for reasons to justify it.
LOL. The only possible logic from someone like you. I mean, the one you'd like. You're very predictable.
The reality is that MS's closure of studios hasn't followed a clear criterion. That's why some have created so much controversy and disbelief.
The "Xbox is a brand in decline" argument would work if the closed studios were dedicated exclusively to releasing on XBOX consoles, but the reality is that, in general, these were studios that released their games on multiple platforms with the largest possible potential user base.
In short, you could come up with any other reason for the closure of those studios except the one you're presenting because it doesn't make sense.
But that wasn't the same team I believeAfter Youngblood this franchise is dead for me.
yes ....very much so.Wolfenstein trilogy final chapter is fucked isn't?!
I liked wolfy2 well enough to want a sequel, yeah some parts were stupid but the game was still fun to me.yes ....very much so.
I love single player fps games. I reject this company as they turned woke , like they were following reddit and era personalities or had them working on their games.
Wolfenstein The New Order - was amazing, as well as the DLC.
Wolfenstein 2 the new colossus - Story took a big nosedive with over dramatic characters and was the start of having Debra Wilson being shoved into every AAA 3rd party releases. It also latched on to the sjw movement to push sales in the marketing.
Young blood - total shit young woke b's on a quip filled killing journey. sure if you want to play as anoying era/reddit people be my guest. Down hill.
I loved Wolf3d, return to castle wolfenstein , 2009 wolfenstein was meh (wish it was still available to play on pc) the new order but had no desire to play the others after new order.
I suspect the next one will be worse if they follow the trajectory.
Same reaction as last time? "I don't remember what I say or where I said it." Only when I want to. Oh my goodnessJust quote me.
I don't keep track of every discussion I have.
Is this the discussion you were talking about?Same reaction as last time? "I don't remember what I say or where I said it." Only when I want to. Oh my goodness
I'm sure you'll have no trouble "remembering" by checking your history![]()
Funny, I see I'm post #5 in that thread.
Guess I completely forgot about it.
As for the rest of your post, I'm too tired to be dealing with that nonsense.
Fact is that pretty much every single
Xbox release this gen underperformed, coming off last-gen where they ended with duds as well.
I wouldn't be surprised to see layoffs or closures for Obsidian or any other underperforming studio.
?? You were referring to a quote from someone who was claiming an upcoming wave of studio closures and layoffs at XBOX based on console sales...![]()
So $41 million per year. Took 7 years to make Indiana Jones. That's $287 million.
Sold $40 million worth of copies for Indy.
That's a $247 million loss.
Not such a bad memory, huh? Shame about the poor attempt to dodge the discussion...Is this the discussion you were talking about?
Of course, at the very moment you saw yourself with no way out... trying to divert the discussionWould be funny, because this stood out in one of your replies before the above one:
Kind of a "heh", given the recent 9,000 layoffs at MS and Xbox.
They're owned by Microsoft. That's the concern.Still profitable after expenses, I don't see anything bad...
It was just a simple 10 sec search.Not such a bad memory, huh? Shame about the poor attempt to dodge the discussion...![]()
What are you even talking about? I never said NT would close.Of course, at the very moment you saw yourself with no way out... trying to divert the discussion![]()
Ofcourse, because I was referencing the 9,000 lay-offs, as that was mentioned in the headlines.WoW!! You including MS company layoffs![]()
Be specific. Which studio are you even talking about?-None of the studios you say would close have been closed - the one closed for a totally different reason than the one you're citing -at a time when the vast majority of publishers and studios are continually announcing layoffs... Congratulations on your exceptional success rate on your bets and predictions![]()
Playstation isn't dying, so there is less need to speculate which studios close.PS. When are you making any bets and predictions about Sony studios that will close and layoffs? Or in those cases, is always your interest only in offering to people reasons why Sony is right to close these, why they deserve to be closed, why their closure is good news for PlayStation and the industry in general... And why is the same but different (.gif)??![]()
Not such a bad memory, huh? Shame about the poor attempt to dodge the discussion...
Of course, at the very moment you saw yourself with no way out... trying to divert the discussion
WoW!! You including MS company layoffs
-None of the studios you say would close have been closed - the one closed for a totally different reason than the one you're citing -at a time when the vast majority of publishers and studios are continually announcing layoffs... Congratulations on your exceptional success rate on your bets and predictions
PS. When are you making any bets and predictions about Sony studios that will close and layoffs? Or in those cases, is always your interest only in offering to people reasons why Sony is right to close these, why they deserve to be closed, why their closure is good news for PlayStation and the industry in general... And why is the same but different (.gif)??![]()
Cant think of anything stupider than making a First Person stealth heavy Indy game... the studio seems competent enough, so brainstorm better next time holy fuck.
Wow, look where the lazy robot is doing something other than mining with
I'd be surprised if it is significantly cheaper.Hope indie IP isn't as expensive as marvel, and their next game should be quake reboot.
That's sad, because the game has done more good to the IP than the last few movies. Unless I am the only person I know that didn't enjoy them much.I'd be surprised if it is significantly cheaper.
As we learned from Insomniac leak, it wasn't just a fixed price they charged. It was a % share, which I reckon will be more or less the same.