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Mad Max: Fury Road |OT| What a Lovely Day | RT: 98% | Metacritic: 89
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Messofanego
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HIGH DEF JEFF
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So I just watched this too because I have never heard of the guy until the Mad Max review where he yells at me to not see anymore movies this year. What am I missing? Everything in this action movie analysis is the most obvious shit anyone can say. Is this is case where people respect someones opinion just because its the same as theirs? Like, they nod along with the analysis saying "YES, someone gets it!". If this video is the guys calling card then Im still not impressed.
And yet so many films still fuck it up, even inside their own franchise. It's a state of the genre that he even needed to point out how bad shakycam is, not only in its implementation but effectiveness.
I mean look at his complaint about the villain and look at how Whedon fucked it up in Ultron or A1.
I agree with pretty much everything he's saying in that video. My problem is that he doesn't go in depth with any of it, and I get the feeling it's because he can't. If it was "A Beginners Guide To Action Film Making," I wouldn't find it so frustrating to watch.
Vampirolol
Member
I like Stuckmann, he's not "Every frame a painting" level of quality but I'm in line with what he says. I would say he is the ProJared of movies.
I don't hate him. I just don't like seeing that video held up as something more than it is.
Back to the topic at hand! I really can't believe I'm about to see Fury Road and that, by all accounts, it's amazing. I've been following the production since the early 2000's and didn't think it would ever get finished. It seemed like it just kept getting further and further away, but come Friday, I'm going to be sitting in an IMAX theater getting my mind blown by George fucking Miller
Nerdkiller
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MovieBob suggests that if the movie happens to underperform, would it be because of the franchise's association with Mel Gibson?
http://moviebob.blogspot.ie/2015/05/whos-real-speed-bump-on-fury-road.html?spref=tw
http://moviebob.blogspot.ie/2015/05/whos-real-speed-bump-on-fury-road.html?spref=tw
Bobby Roberts
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I was about to ask "Who the hell is Stuckmann and why are people arguing over his YouTube review" but yesterday I got in a page-long debate about the history of Laserdisc so I'm in no position to talk shit.
I still don't think putting a metacritic score in the title of a thread is going to make anyone actually go see the movie when they wouldn't have previously. This thread is never going to actually help the film at the box office. That's silly. But I could see that MAYBE the RT score could bring more people into the thread to discuss the film? But then again, it'll probably be people who are incredulous at the idea the film could have that high a rating, and they're wading in solely to express that incredulous feeling.
I also don't think Mel Gibson is going to help or hurt this film at all. Aside from that one trailer Warner did with him in it (and I don't think that got circulated all that much compared to the other three) and his appearing at the LA premiere, they've done a very good job presenting this as its own thing, and distancing Mel's history with the series from the marketing itself.
If it doesn't land, it won't land because, as we're seeing, people think it's just some super-splodey Michael Bay bullshit.
Which would be really shitty - Action movies have been so devalued by braindead assholes making the lowest of lowest common denominator entertainment that when someone does it right it doesn't matter, because it superficially looks the same in a trailer, so people who would appreciate it will just write it off.
I still don't think putting a metacritic score in the title of a thread is going to make anyone actually go see the movie when they wouldn't have previously. This thread is never going to actually help the film at the box office. That's silly. But I could see that MAYBE the RT score could bring more people into the thread to discuss the film? But then again, it'll probably be people who are incredulous at the idea the film could have that high a rating, and they're wading in solely to express that incredulous feeling.
I also don't think Mel Gibson is going to help or hurt this film at all. Aside from that one trailer Warner did with him in it (and I don't think that got circulated all that much compared to the other three) and his appearing at the LA premiere, they've done a very good job presenting this as its own thing, and distancing Mel's history with the series from the marketing itself.
If it doesn't land, it won't land because, as we're seeing, people think it's just some super-splodey Michael Bay bullshit.
Which would be really shitty - Action movies have been so devalued by braindead assholes making the lowest of lowest common denominator entertainment that when someone does it right it doesn't matter, because it superficially looks the same in a trailer, so people who would appreciate it will just write it off.
Extra Sauce
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That's how I feel about the (admittedly few) Chris Stuckmann videos I've seen.
Sibersk Esto
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Jeremy Jahns is the superior Youtube reviewer
Because Max is the eponymous main character, and I'm watching the film because of Mad Max. It's not comparable to Alien/Aliens where it's named after the antagonists (I dont like calling them that but it's close enough).
With the pre-release marketing, and the title itself, it sort of feels like the old bait and switch (ie Kojima with MGS 2). As i've yet to watch the film i'll reserve judgment
BronsonLee
Member
You'll like Furiosa a lot. And you'll love Max.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
No lies detected, though I will add that people versed in film can see the Fury Road trailers and know its something special, way beyond the reach of generic action pap. Some of those expansive shots/use of color etc. Small things that most overlook. There is a marked difference in quality that's readily apparent imo, compared to say, an Age of Ultron trailer.
Which makes it odd: if you are someone that thinks its just generic action pap based on trailers, you should be able to see its not just as easily.
I'm sure I will, I never said it was a deal breaker at any point in my posts anyway, was just curious about whether what I'd read so far was accurate.
Messofanego
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The problem with action movies video is being held up as something more than it is, probably because there aren't many video analyses for action movie cinematography (which is his most salient point).
There is just these two:
Fight Scene Cinematography & Editing: The Bourne Identity vs Hero (kingrin)
Jackie Chan - How to Do Action Comedy (Tony Szhou)
More_Badass
Member
It's funny. I go back to movies I used to love, and now I notice the editing and such and some action like the Bourne fights definitely seem slightly diminished than when I used to watch them.
I definitely appreciate clarity and long steady shots and all that in action now. Like when my dad and I rented Taken 3, he liked it because "the action was entertaining" but god, the cuts and editing were just atrocious and incomprehensible and ruined the movie for me.
CharminUltra
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Is it Friday yet?
Anton Sugar
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Because Max is the eponymous main character, and I'm watching the film because of Mad Max. It's not comparable to Alien/Aliens where it's named after the antagonists (I dont like calling them that but it's close enough).
With the pre-release marketing, and the title itself, it sort of feels like the old bait and switch (ie Kojima with MGS 2). As i've yet to watch the film i'll reserve judgment
Well, I'll say this (some minor spoilers for the setup and overall movie structure): In Road Warrior, we have the same kind of setup: Max gets pulled into a plan for salvation. However, in Road Warrior, there was a lot more time spent on JUST Max (and his dog). We don't get a lot more development in these scenes or anything, but they help it feel like it's HIS movie.
Here,
we don't really get those moments, simply because a) the plot of the movie requires almost constant movement/pursuit and b) 2/3 of the movie is action/chase sequences.
I think a 50/50 split between them is accurate, and it ends up being "we need each other's help", similar to Road Warrior, but with less "only Max" moments.
a 90 to 95 rt or metacritic is usually enough for me to give a second look at a movie or game i otherwise planned on passing on, but that usually involves reading some reviews from people who mesh with my tastes and seeing some gameplay footage/trailers to make a more educated opinion
me going "jesus christ" at the rt for this movie is the thing that convinced me to go to it for sure instead of thinking about dragging a friend to a matinee in a week or two
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Sure, but still, you're saying you were planning on seeing it. Now you're just gonna see it earlier than you thought.
I'm just saying I don't know about the viability of thread-title as film advocacy, is all.
Because Max is the eponymous main character, and I'm watching the film because of Mad Max. It's not comparable to Alien/Aliens where it's named after the antagonists (I dont like calling them that but it's close enough).
With the pre-release marketing, and the title itself, it sort of feels like the old bait and switch (ie Kojima with MGS 2). As i've yet to watch the film i'll reserve judgment
Max and Furiosa are both
main characters, dual protagonists. The movie wouldn't work with one, but not the other. Each has plenty of screentime and awesome moments where the really shine. How's that?
Spoilering in-case people don't know that
Furiosa is progragonist
I could see the RT score perhaps piquing someone's interest enough to make them watch a trailer or read some of the impressions in this thread.
gaf advocating for more under the radar media with rt/mc scores in the thread title has gotten me to see it when i normally wouldn't have. snowpiercer, for example. what this says about me psychologically concerns me occasionally, but eh.
BronsonLee
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Mad Max: Fury Road Review Thread: It Looks Bonkers. Or the alternate:
Mad Max: Fury Road Review Thread: It's Fucking Crazy
Asking one more time in case anyone in the thread today has seen the movie. Is the Verdi music (Dies Irae) trailer-only?
It's in there briefly, not as prominently as I would've liked though.
DiipuSurotu
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One of my friends dismissed this film, saying she hates "how every movie gets remade these days". smh
Thanks. I'm pleasantly surprised it made it in at all!
More_Badass
Member
Did you tell her it wasn't a remake?
BossDarkseid
Member
How's the 3D for this?
I want to go and see it at the IMAX but it's 3D only atm....
I want to go and see it at the IMAX but it's 3D only atm....
BronsonLee
Member
Subtle. Not necessary, IMO. But see it in IMAX anyway
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Yes, but I told her it was a sequel, lol (it was some time ago, I didn't know much about this film yet even though I was already pumped)
It's ok. Everyone can't be intelligent.
Fury Road is one of the few original blockbusters this summer lol
The problem with that guy is that he calls too much crap "awesometacular." I still like him for his down to earth nature but I'm not sure if I take his opinion seriously.
Bobby Roberts
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It was answered up thread, but I think it was hidden behind spoiler tags, but yeah, Dies Irae is apparently in the film.
Also, the Man of Steel trailer music actually WAS in the movie...as the end credits.
Skiptastic
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Got tix to a free screening of this tonight. EXCITE
BossDarkseid
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Cheers. I don't react badly to 3D but i feel like with Fury Road it's give me IMAX or give me death.
I should be able to get a student discount so it helps alleviate the cost somewhat.
Corpsepyre
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The problem with that guy is that he calls too much crap "awesometacular." I still like him for his down to earth nature but I'm not sure if I take his opinion seriously.
Did you just say Jeremy Jahns was DOWN TO EARTH?
Are we talking about the same Man of Steel trailer song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rkrPljo-8M&fmt=18
If so that kind of surprises me, since I normally sit through credits and the song was from a completely different movie. I stand corrected then!
alfredofroylan
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I'm curious what crap are we talking about?The problem with that guy is that he calls too much crap "awesometacular." I still like him for his down to earth nature but I'm not sure if I take his opinion seriously.
I hope you're not talking about Birdman
Bobby Roberts
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Yeah, apologies. I just assumed you were talking about Trailer #3's music, not the previous trailers. (which also used Lord of the Rings music as well, along with that Elizabeth cue)
Sorry. Asses and Umptions at work.
Sorry. Asses and Umptions at work.
To Far Away Times
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I was completely sold on this by the trailers.
It looks like everything is shot so cleanly and with so much style, it looks like the antidote to all the shaky cam, uncorregraphed action scenes of today.
It looks like everything is shot so cleanly and with so much style, it looks like the antidote to all the shaky cam, uncorregraphed action scenes of today.