I think that Peggy thought it was because Joan had slept with Roger, not the Jaguar thing (which she really would have no way of knowing about.) She meant it as a slap, but it ended up being a dagger.
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Mad Men - Season 6 - Sundays on AMC
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Bobby Roberts
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Oh, and Pete definitely pulled a Bill Clinton in that last shot.
Cornballer
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- LA Times review
- Grantland: Mad Men Power Rankings, Episode 610: 'A Tale of Two Cities'
- The Atlantic on potential twists in the last few episodes of S6
- Grantland: Mad Men Power Rankings, Episode 610: 'A Tale of Two Cities'
- The Atlantic on potential twists in the last few episodes of S6
I was under the impression that most people knew about it. If Harry knew, then Ken knew, and Peggy would know.
Ignatz Mouse
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Ken knows for sure. We never find out how he knows, but he alludes to it at the end of last season, says something like "I know what being a partner entails, and I don't have the stomach for it."
I thought that was actually the "good" part of the meeting for Joan. I don't think Peggy was warming him up. I felt she was just totally gushing. The next part though...I thought it revealed that Joan didn't exactly know how things worked. And Peggy almost sabotaged her.
BenjaminBirdie
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Deified Data
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Haha, yeah, I keep wondering when Chekov's gun is going to come into play. It's only a matter of time. I expected Pete to be the one to off himself, not Lane.
It's weird, I thought season 5 was the best yet but it seemed like many did not care for it. I'm totally nonplussed about this season. It's just not doing a single thing for me at all. Not to say I'm disliking it, but it's just kinda there to move the show along to its finale next season.
I'm with you Kev. Peggy was absolutely clueless about this aspect of the business. Joan was trying to hand the baton off but Peggy had no idea what to do. She knows how to sell a story that has been presented or that she's worked out but she clearly doesn't get the accounts part of business at all. I have a feeling that was part of the reason that she was so annoyed afterwards.. if she'd have knocked it out of the park it wouldn't have been a problem.
I'm with you Kev. Peggy was absolutely clueless about this aspect of the business. Joan was trying to hand the baton off but Peggy had no idea what to do. She knows how to sell a story that has been presented or that she's worked out but she clearly doesn't get the accounts part of business at all. I have a feeling that was part of the reason that she was so annoyed afterwards.. if she'd have knocked it out of the park it wouldn't have been a problem.
That was a weird episode. Felt way more on the nose than most episodes, almost like a Mad Men spec script or something. Still had a ton of great moments though.
I've never liked Joan, but this episode may have converted me. I was rooting for her the whole time. I also like that Pete continues to be the only person with the ability to see the way the world around him is trending and that no one ever listens to him.
I've never liked Joan, but this episode may have converted me. I was rooting for her the whole time. I also like that Pete continues to be the only person with the ability to see the way the world around him is trending and that no one ever listens to him.
I think they just blow it off as Pete being Pete.
Bobby Roberts
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On the nose or not, the way Don's trip was shot, scored & edited was fucking great. Him staring down into the pool at himself was legitimately impressive.
I didn't expect Don being high to lead to a him taking a dive in the pool. I thought he would end up sleeping with one of the women at the party after the hallucination? of Megan turned up. That blonde girl (who reminded me a lot of Betty) reacted to Megan's presence so I assumed it was someone else and he was seeing Megan and was hearing what his altered mind wanted him to hear.
Maybe the blonde girl was part of the hallucination to, but I thought she was there before so I think she was real.
Maybe the blonde girl was part of the hallucination to, but I thought she was there before so I think she was real.
Ignatz Mouse
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Well, Peggy wasn't really doing well, but Joan's abrubt stop killed the rapport, which was the one thing she had going.
Joan thinks she knows accounts, but all the stuff she rerfers to is the surface details. Chicking the client out, etc. She completely misses the personal relationship, making them feel comfortable aspects.
Joan thinks she knows accounts, but all the stuff she rerfers to is the surface details. Chicking the client out, etc. She completely misses the personal relationship, making them feel comfortable aspects.
Cornballer
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Ken was at the initial meeting where the Jaguar guy made the indecent proposal. (And Ken was aware that Pete was not immediately rejecting the idea.)
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lol perfect
Bobby Roberts
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The actor doesn't smoke in real life.
Pete has no idea how to smoke? Sounds about right.
I didn't even think that would be in line with his character, feel dopey now.
MidnightCowboy
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I love when they go to California in the show, every episode is fantastic.
Davey Cakes
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I'm liking this season A LOT.
That said, I thought Season 5 was one of the better seasons myself. Better than 3 and 4 at least, but it's not like the quality in any of the seasons really dips significantly. The show is relatively consistent but to have enjoyed some of the changes in tone and feel in Season 5, I guess, makes for a controversial opinion.
I'm just glad that Mad Men still has it in Season 6. It's a well-thought-out show with good attention to characterization and detail.
This show has done a really good job with "tripping" scenes.
Incredible.
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I had this thought that maybe Don quits his job in the finale. But then I couldn't figure out what he would do in the final season so I didn't bother posting it.
The blonde girl was the one who they met on their way in, wasn't she?
Anyways that whole Don-being-high scene was just pure death all the way through to me. More convinced than ever that Megan's gonna die at the end of this season.
I'm thinking Megan probably disappears in the finale, with the cliffhanger being if she left or was murdered.
Just a theory.
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I agreed up until this week but now I'm convinced by my gut feeling that we're all about to endure a classic Matt Weiner fakeout. Not saying megan won't leave or something weird and sudden won't happen. I just think we're getting a death fakeout.
I honestly have zero clue. I think either Megan or Don just simply leaves. Possibly Megan. Don comes home and finds a letter from her saying she left to pursue her career and she knows he wouldn't be interested in moving so she made it easy and just left or something. Then the season ends with a classic Don Draper reaction shot to awesome music.
BertramCooper
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So is Ginsberg bipolar or something?
Also, I think the allusions to death are allusions to a metaphorical death and not a literal death. I don't think the show is going down that route, especially so soon after Lane's dramatic demise.
Also, I think the allusions to death are allusions to a metaphorical death and not a literal death. I don't think the show is going down that route, especially so soon after Lane's dramatic demise.
Bobby Roberts
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The prevailing theory is that he's untreated schizophrenic
i thought the body in the pool was a kinda sorta sunset boulevard reference. it was pretty foreboding... i have a feeling its pointing to somebody drowning. megan? either way i can't shake the feeling something terrible is going to happen to megan.. but i've been wrong with my predictions about this show plenty times before
When a show has a defined end point with time to build like this one does, you can expect anything.
BertramCooper
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It was really unsettling. Before last night, I always thought he was just really socially awkward. But now, it's clear there's something wrong with him.
I'm certainly not ruling out the possibility, but I just don't see two untimely deaths of major characters happening in two consecutive seasons.
Mr. Saturn
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Would they really do that though? I mean Lane died at the end of last season, it would seem weird if they did that again this season.
Though I guess it would be different due to Megan getting murdered vs. Lane who killed himself.
Yeah, definitely I think the key part that really drives it home, is when he talked about how they're beaming the messages to do harm into his brain.
BertramCooper
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If Megan were about to get murdered, I don't think we'd be seeing Janie Bryant cheerfully acknowledge the Sharon Tate wardrobe allusion on Twitter. (NSFW Tate tits)
She really doesn't have the tits to pull off that shirt.
disastermouse
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It was brought up in Season 4 when Don's pre-dead old woman, pre-Megan secretary had a break down in Dr. Faye's focus group. Peggy went to Don's office to console her and she implied that Peggy had also slept with Don.
BertramCooper
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She looks more like Homestar Runner than Sharon Tate.
Mr. Saturn
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I know PyroManiac already mentioned this, but isn't it possible that the whole idea of Megan dying or Don being suicidal are both fake outs? I remember back in the season 5 thread a lot of people (including myself) though Pete was going to commit suicide. Well, someone did kill themselves but it turned out to be Lane.
Though to be fair the whole Don is suicidal thing could be something they're building up with this season and that's how the show will end in s7.
Though to be fair the whole Don is suicidal thing could be something they're building up with this season and that's how the show will end in s7.
disastermouse
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It was pretty jarring. It makes you wonder what sorts of secrets they know about one another.
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