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Mad Men - Season 6 - Sundays on AMC

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jett

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Pete's outburst seemed so exaggerated and over the top to the point where I don't think he was even being sincere.
 
pete's outbursts are always theatrical

it comes across as bad acting sometimes but I can't tell if its intentional

theres something old Hollywood about it
 

maharg

idspispopd
Pete's outburst seemed so exaggerated and over the top to the point where I don't think he was even being sincere.

I think that, while he's definitely a progressive person and his outrage over considering the profit interference of the death of MLK was real, it's the family issue that really brought it to a boil. His parting shot combined with the phone call and the sad scene at the end said it all, really.
 

Rookje

Member
I guess Henry running for office will be the thing that gets Betty to finally shed those last few pounds.
Let's hope. And revert her hair back to normal.

Also really didn't care for this episode. Seemed so similar to the JFK episode.
 

royalan

Member
...how many times is a drunken monologue going to save Don from being seen as a drunken, negligent asshole? I just wanna know.
 

KiN0

Member
Decent episode. I feel as though I like Don less every week. That being said, I felt bad for him when his son was telling him that he was worried about Henry.

Also, did anyone else feel as though the lines were being muttered. I could barely hear anything even after I turned up the volume.
 

royalan

Member
Good episode overall. Still not warming up to Don this season, though. He really is just a huge asshole. Hopefully they address that soon, because I'm finding it increasingly difficult to feel for him. Never had that problem in previous seasons, even when he was at his worst.

Also, that preview! WHY do I feel like Joan's about to make a move to have Harry "dealt with" next week?
 

royalan

Member
Joan is an awkward petty bitch since last season. Get it together girlie...

What??? I disagree. She had every right to fire that layabout Scarlet. If anything Harry is wrong for undermining her authority and then basically calling her an undeserving slut in front of the other partners.

After his spat with Pete this episode, I'm absolutely convinced they're setting Harry up for a HARD fall. And lord I can't wait for when that happens.
 
I get that she's trying to assert herself and struggling with feeling like just another secretary, but good god... relax! She doesn't really have a strong story going for her, tbh.

Edit: and I agree about Harry. That idiot is going down. Maybe he will take up creepy dude's violent ad and run it on his own and get himself fired.
 

royalan

Member
I get that she's trying to assert herself and struggling with feeling like just another secretary, but good god... relax! She doesn't really have a strong story going for her, tbh.

Joan's arc is so far one of the more interesting for me. Her, Betty and Peggy are giving me everything I need this season. ;___;
 
Look everyone, it's Don, father of the FREAKING year. "Hey kids, you gotta earn my love, ya little punks."

I just can't. What a complete scumbag. Bobby totally burning him by worrying about Henry was amazing though, but then Don, of course, had to try and tear him down.

Anyway, this season has been amazing so far. I love that they are really focusing on so many characters currently. It makes the show feel so much fuller than the drunk Lothario diaries of one Don Draper.
 

kirblar

Member
Wow, Pete on the side of not being a scummy scumshit. Don't know how to process.
He's always been on the good side here- he wanted to market to african-american markets in either S1 or S2 since they were massively underserviced and got shot down.
 

RaidenZR

Member
I had a really hard time reading the emotions coming across Don's face in almost every scene of this episode. Anyone else feel this way?
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I had a really hard time reading the emotions coming across Don's face in almost every scene of this episode. Anyone else feel this way?

I had the same feeling during the premiere. Him not answering questions even when they were directed at him specifically made it even harder. Don has this constant aura of being annoyed with everyone.
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
Anyone else experience an audio sync problem as soon as Don was outside on the balcony?
Yes, I liked it. Odd error, but it kinda worked. There was a vacuum effect like wind sucking inward right at the last few moments in bobby's bedroom with a brief loss of audio then after don stepped out in the balcony it was like something exhaling a breathe really quickly and then the audio resumed.
 

GQman2121

Banned
Ken and Stan each had closeups at the awards ceremony, yet, neither had any lines of dialog in this episode. Nice to see Ginsburg receive a feature though. His dad brought the goods this week.



I thought the Pete and Harry encounter was perfectly in line with how their characters have always behaved.

Harry worries about his clients above all else--he had the same reaction when JFK was killed.

And the family aspect of Dr. King's death obviously hit Pete harder than the actual significance that his loss meant to the country at that time.
 

pigeon

Banned
I loved this episode. They totally got me with the bait and switch by making the episode look like a fun award show Peggy/Don/Megan story and then going completely off the rails with the assassination. The invisible Paul Newman was a little arch for me, but I guess that adds to the disorientation when the real story breaks.

I'm sure they enjoyed making Pete the sympathetic and empathic guy for once in the entire run of the show. Also nice to see Ginsberg a little.

Peggy's dress at the awards was hideous. Tom and Lorenzo need to explain what the hell that was.
 

- J - D -

Member
Pete's outburst seemed so exaggerated and over the top to the point where I don't think he was even being sincere.

I felt it teetered on the edge of disingenuous at first, or at the very least his outburst wasn't born out of a singular disgust over the injustice of it all, but it doesn't make his actions any less noble. It was a good moment for Pete when he's had very few in this series. It doesn't make me think any less of Harry, though. Some of the ad men on this show have shown that they are willing to use the misfortunes of others to their advantage.

This episode did a really good job in using particular characters to show a contrast in behaviors in the wake of MLK's murder. Not sure if it was just me but a lot of the weepyness and effusive sentimentality from the predominantly white cast of characters seemed like the show's statement about whites feeling like they should over-compensate in light of a racially-tinged national tragedy. Then you have characters like Harry and that weird dude from Lost on the other side seeing it as an opportunity, and Peggy oddly in between somehow.

Like most of the people here on gaf, I wasn't alive when it happened so the zeitgeist of that moment in time will always be apocryphal to me, so I can't really judge the episode on how accurate it's portrayal of emotions were.

I'm still trying to get a grasp on Dawn during her short scene tonight. She seemed a bit aloof, no? Detached? Or was that just the reaction to Joan (I hate that they showed her crying at the awards dinner).
 

Bladenic

Member
God help me, I'm actually feeling Petes story this season. Him, Peggy and cutie Bob Benson are going places.

I hope Bob Benson is the new Ginsberg (as in a recurring character that actually sticks around unlike others). I need more from him.

Ginsberg rules though.

And regarding Joan and Harry, I'm actually siding with Harry. He's actually contributed a shit ton to the company, and was incredibly progressive and intuitive regarding TV. I see why he would demand more respect and power. Of course he may have went about it the wrong way, and Joan also deserves her status (plus Harry doesn't know what she did).
 

RaidenZR

Member
Pretty funny how Matthew Weiner is super-anal about spoilers for his show yet he has no problem spoiling one of the most spoiler-able endings ever put into a feature film.
 

Bladenic

Member
Pretty funny how Matthew Weiner is super-anal about spoilers for his show yet he has no problem spoiling one of the most spoiler-able endings ever put into a feature film.

Are you serious? I was absolutely dying reading tweets about people upset at that on twitter. It's a 45 year old movie. If you haven't seen it yet, then tough shit.
 
Pretty funny how Matthew Weiner is super-anal about spoilers for his show yet he has no problem spoiling one of the most spoiler-able endings ever put into a feature film.

holy shit

YeAWoCJ.jpg


(sorry im posting so much tonight i had too much to drink)

wheres benjaminbirdie goddamnit
 

RaidenZR

Member
Are you serious? I was absolutely dying reading tweets about people upset at that on twitter. It's a 45 year old movie. If you haven't seen it yet, then tough shit.

I'm not upset about it. I just think it's funny in a hypocritical sort of way. He's high and mighty about the spoiling of shit and he makes a lot of decisions based on that- by his own admission.

Not everyone watching the show is 40+ years old, either. I'm sure there's some teenagers or people in their early 20's who've never seen that movie... maybe have never even heard of it.
 

maharg

idspispopd
I'm not upset about it. I just think it's funny in a hypocritical sort of way. He's high and mighty about the spoiling of shit and he makes a lot of decisions based on that- by his own admission.

Not everyone watching the show is 40+ years old, either. I'm sure there's some teenagers or people in their early 20's who've never seen that movie... maybe have never even heard of it.

If, in 45 years, he's pissy about people spoiling things in Mad Men you can call him a hypocrite. How exactly a person, 20 or 40 or 60, could get through that much of their life without having the ending of Planet of the Apes spoiled, but still care enough about pop culture to watch Mad Men, I have no freakin' clue.
 

Angry Fork

Member
I enjoyed the nod to Megan's communist father. Peggy's boyfriend is cool, I'm fascinated by the late 60s new left protests so I enjoy these kinds of episodes, the Vietnam mentions, etc. I really wish there were more shows with unapologetic far left characters and ideas at least mentioned.

I remember Boardwalk Empire had that one guy last season who was a socialist and I think said he voted for Eugene Debs, and everyone at the bar was taking the piss at him for being a 'bolshevik'. He went on a fun semi-rant about religion at the dinner table I think in another episode.
 

Bladenic

Member
If, in 45 years, he's pissy about people spoiling things in Mad Men you can call him a hypocrite. How exactly a person, 20 or 40 or 60, could get through that much of their life without having the ending of Planet of the Apes spoiled, but still care enough about pop culture to watch Mad Men, I have no freakin' clue.

This.

I still can't with people actually being mad about it on Twitter. What's more, they must have lived truly sheltered lives, since that ending has been spoofed, parodied, and spoiled by many other things before Mad Men.
 
I'm not upset about it. I just think it's funny in a hypocritical sort of way. He's high and mighty about the spoiling of shit and he makes a lot of decisions based on that- by his own admission.

Not everyone watching the show is 40+ years old, either. I'm sure there's some teenagers or people in their early 20's who've never seen that movie... maybe have never even heard of it.
He already did it earlier in the show with "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance".
 
this fat betty shit just needs to be dropped. the makeup is distracting and it no longer adds anything to her character.

i used to love the character too but her plot is no longer interesting and her face is distracting until they lose the fat stuff.

the rest of the episode was great though.
 
this fat betty shit just needs to be dropped. the makeup is distracting and it no longer adds anything to her character.

i used to love the character too but her plot is no longer interesting and her face is distracting until they lose the fat stuff.

the rest of the episode was great though.
They've already been setting up her weight loss this season. Her passing on the candy, saying she's "being careful" and now her looking at the dress in the mirror. They've lessened the make up too. I expect a turn around by season's end.
 

Bladenic

Member
Yeah I expect thin Brunetty by the end of the season.

Oh, and what was the point of Bobby ripping up the wall at the beginning? I didn't get it.
 

Empty

Member
it was good to have a don struggling with his children storyline again. i like it more than his other storylines this season and i loved him taking bobby to see planet of the apes.

pete's over the top attack on harry was amazing. when the eighties come around pete is going to be a grumpy liberal whereas peggy will vote for reagan.

what on earth was that insurance client meeting about?

L'Amour Est Bleu by Paul Mauriat. It was a US #1 in February 1968.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjRQNDO0NBc

yessss
 
i miss scenes of don and his kids. the interactions between him and sally in previous seasons was great.

as was the scene of him and bobby after they saw planet of the apes (the first time)
 
So what was up with Don's monologue regarding his kids?

Does he love or even care about them or what? Because at first with all the talk of pretending to be proud, and not feeling anything it seems he was indifferent to them, but then he talked about seeing them do something that made him feel what he was pretending to feel.
 

maharg

idspispopd
Oh god, bobby is going to be a Star Wars nerd! How's Don gunna handle that.

I think he'd be able to relate to him better after that. I mean, then his son will truly be living in his world: a perfect target for advertising.

But really I think Don'll be dead before 1977 anyways.
 
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